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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2017 23:28:41 GMT
Well, as I said in another thread, recognising it's a lot more serialised than other BF boxsets doesn't mean I don't like the format - my thoughts on the eps I've spoken about over the 2 sets show quite the opposite in fact.
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Post by omega on Oct 24, 2017 1:58:52 GMT
It's just struck me that Deliverables could be a commentary on the Uber taxi service. Both hire pretty much anyone who volunteers though the app, which directs them. It's also a popular employment option for migrants.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 7:31:58 GMT
It's just struck me that Deliverables could be a commentary on the Uber taxi service. Both hire pretty much anyone who volunteers though the app, which directs them. It's also a popular employment option for migrants. Although Uber came to mind, it seemed a more direct commentary on Deliveroo with the references to cyclist deliveries being everywhere. It would be quite hard not to make the parallels about the delivery companies being referenced here if you live or work in the city. I can't go 20 feet without a Deliveroo guy popping up. I don't think it was supposed to be subtext.
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Post by omega on Oct 24, 2017 7:35:23 GMT
It's just struck me that Deliverables could be a commentary on the Uber taxi service. Both hire pretty much anyone who volunteers though the app, which directs them. It's also a popular employment option for migrants. Although Uber came to mind, it seemed a more direct commentary on Deliveroo with the references to cyclist deliveries being everywhere. It would be quite hard not to make the parallels about the delivery companies being referenced here if you live or work in the city. I can't go 20 feet without a Deliveroo guy popping up. I don't think it was supposed to be subtext. The Deliveroo thing is probably a UK thing, I've not heard of them. Signing up via the app did remind me of Uber, and doing the bare minimum for following regulations.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 8:28:18 GMT
Although Uber came to mind, it seemed a more direct commentary on Deliveroo with the references to cyclist deliveries being everywhere. It would be quite hard not to make the parallels about the delivery companies being referenced here if you live or work in the city. I can't go 20 feet without a Deliveroo guy popping up. I don't think it was supposed to be subtext. The Deliveroo thing is probably a UK thing, I've not heard of them. Signing up via the app did remind me of Uber, and doing the bare minimum for following regulations. This is what Deliveroo drivers looks like out and about - they deliver anything from documents to burgers in these huge rucksacks they have to wear and they don't know what they're doing or where they're going till they get their next electronic order. www.google.co.uk/search?q=deliveroo+bike&rlz=1C1AOHY_en-GBGB709GB709&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwkL2K6IjXAhUBmBoKHdnsA-EQ_AUICigB&biw=1280&bih=629I feel really bad for them as the story is absolutely right - they're monitored with GPS and have to go so fast that they can't take a quick break or slow down, they're constantly monitored. Like Challenge Anneka on a Zero Hour contract. I like that very gradulaly without ever being too much to the fore things like unemployment, immigration and Wales (at least Cardiff) being almost cutoff from rUK is being slipped in to the dialogue here and there.
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Post by IndieMacUser on Oct 24, 2017 14:52:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 15:50:48 GMT
BTW, how wonderful that Ramon Tikaram is such a BF regular, he's getting to be the new David Warner he's popping up so often and Sacha Dhawan too - one of my shortlisted "future Doctor" actors. Hopefully he'd get a bit more to do than get chatted up by Jonny Green when piloting the TARDIS but hey, he was still good getting chatted up!
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Post by number13 on Oct 24, 2017 16:41:01 GMT
BTW, how wonderful that Ramon Tikaram is such a BF regular, he's getting to be the new David Warner he's popping up so often and Sacha Dhawan too - one of my shortlisted "future Doctor" actors. Hopefully he'd get a bit more to do than get chatted up by Jonny Green when piloting the TARDIS but hey, he was still good getting chatted up! He'd be an excellent Doctor. I've thought that since Christmas Day 2013 (shortly after 'An Adventure in Space and Time') when I saw him investigating a haunted book in Mark Gatiss' adaptation of M.R.James' classic ghost story 'The Tractate Middoth'. With Louise Jameson too. As an M.R.James and Doctor Who fan, it really was a Christmas gift. And it still hasn't been released on DVD.
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Post by rran on Oct 27, 2017 11:02:54 GMT
The Deliverables story was one of the creepiest I've heard.
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Post by TommyP on Oct 28, 2017 4:10:14 GMT
The Deliverables story was one of the creepiest I've heard. Very Torchwood!!! Brought back memories of Miracle Day when, Dr Vera Juarez was killed and Rex couldn’t do anything to save her... ForQueenAndCountry TommyP
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2017 11:51:03 GMT
I can't wait to hear how Yvonne is back - did Ianto have her stashed with her Cyber-gear on as well? I like the ideaof a TW mutiny. It makes sense with this group who don't seem anywhere near as tight as, say, Season 2's team. Between Yvonne's resurecction and coup and Gwen's symbiont/replacement being - surely - rumbled, the third set should be epic.
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Post by rran on Oct 29, 2017 7:16:42 GMT
Now that I've finished listening to Aliens among Us - 1 and 2, while overall both the sets were good, I had one problem with it {Spoiler} I was actually beginning to get tired of Gwen not being Gwen.Was sort of getting repetitive. I guess its only me complaining about it
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Post by Whovitt on Oct 29, 2017 7:41:59 GMT
Now that I've finished listening to Aliens among Us - 1 and 2, while overall both the sets were good, I had one problem with it {Spoiler} I was actually beginning to get tired of Gwen not being Gwen.Was sort of getting repetitive. I guess its only me complaining about it No, you're not the only one A few of us feel like it really needs to be addressed, and soon. I still have issues with the fact that Alexandria Riley *sounds* like Eve Myles, but not quite enough - it's jarring, and I find I'm almost grating my teeth by the end of each scene she's in
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Post by rran on Oct 29, 2017 7:43:35 GMT
Now that I've finished listening to Aliens among Us - 1 and 2, while overall both the sets were good, I had one problem with it {Spoiler} I was actually beginning to get tired of Gwen not being Gwen.Was sort of getting repetitive. I guess its only me complaining about it No, you're not the only one A few of us feel like it really needs to be addressed, and soon. I still have issues with the fact that Alexandria Riley *sounds* like Eve Myles, but not quite enough - it's jarring, and I find I'm almost grating my teeth by the end of each scene she's in Though I didnt specifically have a problem with her, I found it getting on my nerves and getting no where.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 10:31:06 GMT
Sorry Whovitt and Rran but I don't see the issue - surely since this is "Series 5" essentially, we're only just done on Ep 8 of a 12 story series. If this was TV you wouldn't expect a big mystery like this to be resolved mid-season. This build up is supposed to jar. We're supposed to be annoyed that "our" Gwen isn't back and something horrible seems to have happened to her. We're supposed to be frustrated that Jack and Rhys only see tiny fragments of something being wrong. Expecting some sort of resolution is a bit moot when surely that's something for the big end-of-season story that we'll get in the final set in a few months? Like I was saying in previous pages,this is a slightly different model for BF and I think that your complaints illustrate that. If it's not a big part of the arc in the next set though, I'll agree
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Post by chapwithwings on Oct 29, 2017 10:50:26 GMT
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Post by rran on Oct 29, 2017 12:43:55 GMT
Sorry Whovitt and Rran but I don't see the issue - surely since this is "Series 5" essentially, we're only just done on Ep 8 of a 12 story series. If this was TV you wouldn't expect a big mystery like this to be resolved mid-season. This build up is supposed to jar. We're supposed to be annoyed that "our" Gwen isn't back and something horrible seems to have happened to her. We're supposed to be frustrated that Jack and Rhys only see tiny fragments of something being wrong. Expecting some sort of resolution is a bit moot when surely that's something for the big end-of-season story that we'll get in the final set in a few months? Like I was saying in previous pages,this is a slightly different model for BF and I think that your complaints illustrate that. If it's not a big part of the arc in the next set though, I'll agree I found it a bit irritating, but yes I see your point too. I’m hoping they resolve it satisfactorily in the third part 😀
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Post by Whovitt on Oct 29, 2017 13:15:00 GMT
Sorry Whovitt and Rran but I don't see the issue - surely since this is "Series 5" essentially, we're only just done on Ep 8 of a 12 story series. If this was TV you wouldn't expect a big mystery like this to be resolved mid-season. This build up is supposed to jar. We're supposed to be annoyed that "our" Gwen isn't back and something horrible seems to have happened to her. We're supposed to be frustrated that Jack and Rhys only see tiny fragments of something being wrong. Expecting some sort of resolution is a bit moot when surely that's something for the big end-of-season story that we'll get in the final set in a few months? Like I was saying in previous pages,this is a slightly different model for BF and I think that your complaints illustrate that. If it's not a big part of the arc in the next set though, I'll agree I think it's just a big part of me misses the sound of Eve's voice - I know it's supposed to be Gwen, and I know that it isn't, and I know that it isn't supposed to be, and I just want the to story to be resolved so I can have proper Gwen back I think that's what's getting in the way for me. So yes, I'm "annoyed that our Gwen isn't back", and it's purely for that reason I want it resolved, not necessarily that I want the story to be finished. I feel like that doesn't explain my point well though, so I'll summarise it thus: I want it resolved purely so I can have Eve Myles back in the part as opposed to wishing the problem in-story were resolved, if that makes sense? (It's late, I'm tired, and my exam study has been atrocious, so I apologise if my response is completely nonsensical, it's just the state of my brain at the moment )
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Post by rran on Oct 29, 2017 13:20:11 GMT
Sorry Whovitt and Rran but I don't see the issue - surely since this is "Series 5" essentially, we're only just done on Ep 8 of a 12 story series. If this was TV you wouldn't expect a big mystery like this to be resolved mid-season. This build up is supposed to jar. We're supposed to be annoyed that "our" Gwen isn't back and something horrible seems to have happened to her. We're supposed to be frustrated that Jack and Rhys only see tiny fragments of something being wrong. Expecting some sort of resolution is a bit moot when surely that's something for the big end-of-season story that we'll get in the final set in a few months? Like I was saying in previous pages,this is a slightly different model for BF and I think that your complaints illustrate that. If it's not a big part of the arc in the next set though, I'll agree I think it's just a big part of me misses the sound of Eve's voice - I know it's supposed to be Gwen, and I know that it isn't, and I know that it isn't supposed to be, and I just want the to story to be resolved so I can have proper Gwen back I think that's what's getting in the way for me. So yes, I'm "annoyed that our Gwen isn't back", and it's purely for that reason I want it resolved, not necessarily that I want the story to be finished. I feel like that doesn't explain my point well though, so I'll summarise it thus: I want it resolved purely so I can have Eve Myles back in the part as opposed to wishing the problem in-story were resolved, if that makes sense? (It's late, I'm tired, and my exam study has been atrocious, so I apologise if my response is completely nonsensical, it's just the state of my brain at the moment ) You'll do your exams well. THERE IS NOTHING TO FEAR.
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Post by masolko on Oct 30, 2017 22:26:27 GMT
I'm fascinated with the development of Ng & can't wait to see where they are going with it. I buy the emotional stakes from Riley. My biggest question going into Part 3 is what is Ng's motivation? For the most part she is functioning as a heroic Torchwood protagonist in line with what we'd expect from Gwen. I may be in the minority, but I'd be okay if Ng, Mr. Colchester, & Orr are the core of the team moving forward.
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