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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jun 23, 2019 19:49:46 GMT
What's baffling to me is how people are interpreting (or trying to) these new marketing strategies. They're not leaks! Big Finish is partnering with actual (pop culture) news sites and giving them exclusives to get more exposure, rather than doing it on a website no-one knows about (EDIT: I'm talking about bigfinish.com, which, let's face it, not many people, including those in the Doctor Who fandom, know it exists, let alone check on a daily basis for updates). Their social media acts as a hub for all of these announcements and you can then go to their online shop, linked in all of these articles, to buy their products. I don't see what's so difficult to understand. Yes, it's a different strategy, but then again it's a different landscape than it was even five years ago, so I'm all for them trying to get all the exposure they can even if it means sacrificing something that was only working for a percentage of the intended target audience. Evolve or die. I'm just happy to see Big Finish developing these kind of relationships with other publications outside of DWM. To the comment above, this information is correct. I found it via the BF Facebook page where it was marked as an exclusive to Gizmodo.
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Post by number13 on Jun 23, 2019 20:15:33 GMT
Looking forward to Dark Universe. Late era Seventh Doctor, a potentially Gallifrey era Ace and the long awaited encounter with The Eleven. Ollistra and Rasmus in the mix tie the continuity up too; I wish the many Time War series did that better. It’s reminding me of The Two Masters for some reason, and we all know that’s brilliant. I like that it’s an epic main range release and not an overly long box set too. Pretty savvy of Big Finish to get it promoted now and release it in January; I bet it’ll persuade a few into a subscription. My biggest concern is it’s by Guy Adams and I do tend to struggle with his stories that are longer than 60 minutes. Hopefully this will be the exception. An exciting scenario certainly - and I recently enjoyed his four-parter in the 4DAs (8.4+8.5) very very much, and his UNIT8+River finale and absolutely loved 'The Scream of Ghosts' in the 3DAs - pure Pertwee. Three two-hour stories and all great stuff imo.
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Post by xlozdob on Jun 23, 2019 21:13:49 GMT
What's baffling to me is how people are interpreting (or trying to) these new marketing strategies. They're not leaks! Big Finish is partnering with actual (pop culture) news sites and giving them exclusives to get more exposure, rather than doing it on a website no-one knows about (EDIT: I'm talking about bigfinish.com, which, let's face it, not many people, including those in the Doctor Who fandom, know it exists, let alone check on a daily basis for updates). Their social media acts as a hub for all of these announcements and you can then go to their online shop, linked in all of these articles, to buy their products. I don't see what's so difficult to understand. Yes, it's a different strategy, but then again it's a different landscape than it was even five years ago, so I'm all for them trying to get all the exposure they can even if it means sacrificing something that was only working for a percentage of the intended target audience. Evolve or die. I'm just happy to see Big Finish developing these kind of relationships with other publications outside of DWM. To the comment above, this information is correct. I found it via the BF Facebook page where it was marked as an exclusive to Gizmodo. It's great, isn't it! I find it's more of a win situation. Previously, all exclusives had been either DWM or a Doctor Who dedicated site (maybe Radio Times too? I can't remember). But seeing Gizmodo, a worldwide pop culture mainstream publication, giving Big Finish this kind of coverage is awesome! Here's to 20+ more years of Big Finish productions, more and more mainstream every year, if not every day.
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Post by mark687 on Jun 24, 2019 21:52:14 GMT
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jun 24, 2019 22:37:58 GMT
What's baffling to me is how people are interpreting (or trying to) these new marketing strategies. They're not leaks! Big Finish is partnering with actual (pop culture) news sites and giving them exclusives to get more exposure, rather than doing it on a website no-one knows about (EDIT: I'm talking about bigfinish.com, which, let's face it, not many people, including those in the Doctor Who fandom, know it exists, let alone check on a daily basis for updates). Their social media acts as a hub for all of these announcements and you can then go to their online shop, linked in all of these articles, to buy their products. I don't see what's so difficult to understand. Yes, it's a different strategy, but then again it's a different landscape than it was even five years ago, so I'm all for them trying to get all the exposure they can even if it means sacrificing something that was only working for a percentage of the intended target audience. Evolve or die. I'm just happy to see Big Finish developing these kind of relationships with other publications outside of DWM. To the comment above, this information is correct. I found it via the BF Facebook page where it was marked as an exclusive to Gizmodo. ..Or IMO they could have the best of both worlds.. Actually update the official BF site AND do all the other partnerings.. It can only be seen as a win win- as has been discussed before there is a good portion on this forum who don't use social media.
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Post by fingersmash on Jun 24, 2019 23:19:05 GMT
Evolve or die. I'm just happy to see Big Finish developing these kind of relationships with other publications outside of DWM. To the comment above, this information is correct. I found it via the BF Facebook page where it was marked as an exclusive to Gizmodo. ..Or IMO they could have the best of both worlds.. Actually update the official BF site AND do all the other partnerings.. It can only be seen as a win win- as has been discussed before there is a good portion on this forum who don't use social media. You can easily do both. Let the partners drop the news and then do a roundup on the BF website a week or so later with the standard writer interviews.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Jun 24, 2019 23:28:17 GMT
I just want BF to reveal the story details about Blood on Santa’s Claw and confirm that it’s Set during the TV run so I don’t sit here hoping like an idiot that it’ll be Older Peri forever.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jun 25, 2019 8:40:37 GMT
Evolve or die. I'm just happy to see Big Finish developing these kind of relationships with other publications outside of DWM. To the comment above, this information is correct. I found it via the BF Facebook page where it was marked as an exclusive to Gizmodo. ..Or IMO they could have the best of both worlds.. Actually update the official BF site AND do all the other partnerings.. It can only be seen as a win win- as has been discussed before there is a good portion on this forum who don't use social media. Speaking personally, I am not on social media and have no desire to be *, so all this marketing on social media leaves me cold. I get it that BF wants to attract new customers and I get it that in this day and age social media is the place to do it, particularly for a company that is increasingly selling non-physical content rather than physical CDs. No argument whatsoever from me. But in chasing these new customers on social media, they come across as neglecting or taking for granted their existing customers who are not on social media. It risks coming across as "Don't bother updating them, sure they'll buy it anyway." Neglecting or taking customers for granted is rarely a good idea for any business.
* I did set up a facebook account a few years ago, but then I started getting friended by people I didn't really know who were friends of friends, then I kept getting email updates every time they liked anything and pictures of what their children had for breakfast that day .... no, no ,no, no, no! Life is too short for that nonsense
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 5:49:45 GMT
..Or IMO they could have the best of both worlds.. Actually update the official BF site AND do all the other partnerings.. It can only be seen as a win win- as has been discussed before there is a good portion on this forum who don't use social media. Speaking personally, I am not on social media and have no desire to be *, so all this marketing on social media leaves me cold. I get it that BF wants to attract new customers and I get it that in this day and age social media is the place to do it, particularly for a company that is increasingly selling non-physical content rather than physical CDs. No argument whatsoever from me. But in chasing these new customers on social media, they come across as neglecting or taking for granted their existing customers who are not on social media. It risks coming across as "Don't bother updating them, sure they'll buy it anyway." Neglecting or taking customers for granted is rarely a good idea for any business.
* I did set up a facebook account a few years ago, but then I started getting friended by people I didn't really know who were friends of friends, then I kept getting email updates every time they liked anything and pictures of what their children had for breakfast that day .... no, no ,no, no, no! Life is too short for that nonsense
Personally, I tend to get my news from the forum's feed here nowadays. It's centralised, I know it's peer-reviewed and there's a concerted effort from all involved to collect information from a variety of different sources. The main website, social media, third-party outlets, etc. I'm grateful for how easy it is to access, actually, it's like a local noticeboard.
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Post by mbt66 on Jun 26, 2019 9:28:50 GMT
It would be nice if a big Finish did more with their newsletter. I know people say that email is old fashioned, but I would like to see them include some news in it rather than just listing their current releases. A bit of variety in the content would be nice.
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Post by number13 on Jun 26, 2019 11:09:56 GMT
Speaking personally, I am not on social media and have no desire to be *, so all this marketing on social media leaves me cold. I get it that BF wants to attract new customers and I get it that in this day and age social media is the place to do it, particularly for a company that is increasingly selling non-physical content rather than physical CDs. No argument whatsoever from me. But in chasing these new customers on social media, they come across as neglecting or taking for granted their existing customers who are not on social media. It risks coming across as "Don't bother updating them, sure they'll buy it anyway." Neglecting or taking customers for granted is rarely a good idea for any business.
* I did set up a facebook account a few years ago, but then I started getting friended by people I didn't really know who were friends of friends, then I kept getting email updates every time they liked anything and pictures of what their children had for breakfast that day .... no, no ,no, no, no! Life is too short for that nonsense
Personally, I tend to get my news from the forum's feed here nowadays. It's centralised, I know it's peer-reviewed and there's a concerted effort from all involved to collect information from a variety of different sources. The main website, social media, third-party outlets, etc. I'm grateful for how easy it is to access, actually, it's like a local noticeboard. Seconded. DU is my source and I need no other. DU brings the gift of BF-tech to all humanity.
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It's tangerine....not orange
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Post by ljwilson on Jun 26, 2019 16:57:12 GMT
Thirded. I'm with wolfie on this one, I just read DU to find out what's what. And well done to all those who keep us up to speed.
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Post by slithe on Jun 28, 2019 18:16:20 GMT
Evolve or die. I'm just happy to see Big Finish developing these kind of relationships with other publications outside of DWM. To the comment above, this information is correct. I found it via the BF Facebook page where it was marked as an exclusive to Gizmodo. It's great, isn't it! I find it's more of a win situation. Previously, all exclusives had been either DWM or a Doctor Who dedicated site (maybe Radio Times too? I can't remember). But seeing Gizmodo, a worldwide pop culture mainstream publication, giving Big Finish this kind of coverage is awesome! Here's to 20+ more years of Big Finish productions, more and more mainstream every year, if not every day. I agree that BF does need to branch out and become more known and build brand awareness. Certainly, I can remember the early days when it was only in DWM and select specialist shops that you could buy their products. I don't want to see that happen again and I think the more widely known the company is, then the more likely it is to survive and be successful. I think that they could and should continue working with other organisations. However, it would be nice if they also put their updates on their own product site as well. It would just tie everything together and enable those that do and do not use social media to ensure that they are being kept in the loop.
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Post by slithe on Jun 28, 2019 18:18:31 GMT
I just want BF to reveal the story details about Blood on Santa’s Claw and confirm that it’s Set during the TV run so I don’t sit here hoping like an idiot that it’ll be Older Peri forever. This is the one that I think we will be left waiting for. Considering January's release has been put up, it is likely that Blood on Santa's Claw isn't entirely ready yet and was recorded later but is being released earlier. I wonder if this is going to be a more pantomime-esque story like The One Doctor or something a bit more darker... As it is Sixie, it could go either way - especially as Vortex noted that their intention is to go back to 'the TV' era of Sixie and Peri...
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Post by tuigirl on Jun 28, 2019 18:45:26 GMT
I just want BF to reveal the story details about Blood on Santa’s Claw and confirm that it’s Set during the TV run so I don’t sit here hoping like an idiot that it’ll be Older Peri forever. This is the one that I think we will be left waiting for. Considering January's release has been put up, it is likely that Blood on Santa's Claw isn't entirely ready yet and was recorded later but is being released earlier. I wonder if this is going to be a more pantomime-esque story like The One Doctor or something a bit more darker... As it is Sixie, it could go either way - especially as Vortex noted that their intention is to go back to 'the TV' era of Sixie and Peri...I agree- and I would be fine with both.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jun 28, 2019 19:50:56 GMT
Thirded. I'm with wolfie on this one, I just read DU to find out what's what. And well done to all those who keep us up to speed. And it is great that the forum helps serve that purpose but to me that just highlights the problem. People should not have to search the various BF social media platforms to collect & present the news in one convenient, easy to find place. That should be what the Big Finish web site does. Still, as always hats off & cheers to all the people with the time to find all the information we want.
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Post by jacobz40 on Jul 10, 2019 20:48:52 GMT
Tyrant is out tomorrow, according to twitter
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Post by Bazoolium on Jul 11, 2019 16:56:08 GMT
In the next Fifth Doctor trilogy it looks like there's a new companion played by George Watkins called Marc. He might be interesting, but seems weird to put a new companion in with Nyssa and Tegan. Doesn't Davison have enough big TARDIS crews.
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Post by slithe on Jul 11, 2019 19:20:56 GMT
In the next Fifth Doctor trilogy it looks like there's a new companion played by George Watkins called Marc. He might be interesting, but seems weird to put a new companion in with Nyssa and Tegan. Doesn't Davison have enough big TARDIS crews. I agree, it does seem strange to create a new companion for Davison - especially as 3 companions can be difficult to write for. At least the character is in all stories, which does at least add some interest to the trilogy. Hopefully, this will be better handled than Mathew Sharpe who ended up as a 'fake' companion with only one story (thus far). This is either going to go two ways. Either Marc is going to develop into a companion that is in more than this run of stories or he is going to meet his demise at the end of the Cyber adventure. I am leaning towards the second option as I think that there is some symbolism with Adric that BF might want to play on (plus the blurb for the story hints at a more emotional type story for the Fifth Doctor). Either way, I hope the second half of the year is stronger for the MR. The Mags trilogy was let down by a weak ending (in my opinion) and the Kamelion trilogy was hit and miss. Yet to hear the Sixie trilogy, but have yet to be really disappointed by anything Baker does.
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Post by fingersmash on Jul 11, 2019 20:29:07 GMT
In the next Fifth Doctor trilogy it looks like there's a new companion played by George Watkins called Marc. He might be interesting, but seems weird to put a new companion in with Nyssa and Tegan. Doesn't Davison have enough big TARDIS crews. I agree, it does seem strange to create a new companion for Davison - especially as 3 companions can be difficult to write for. At least the character is in all stories, which does at least add some interest to the trilogy. Hopefully, this will be better handled than Mathew Sharpe who ended up as a 'fake' companion with only one story (thus far). This is either going to go two ways. Either Marc is going to develop into a companion that is in more than this run of stories or he is going to meet his demise at the end of the Cyber adventure. I am leaning towards the second option as I think that there is some symbolism with Adric that BF might want to play on (plus the blurb for the story hints at a more emotional type story for the Fifth Doctor).
Either way, I hope the second half of the year is stronger for the MR. The Mags trilogy was let down by a weak ending (in my opinion) and the Kamelion trilogy was hit and miss. Yet to hear the Sixie trilogy, but have yet to be really disappointed by anything Baker does. I really hope Marc ends up being a long lasting companion. There's a ton of potential to a grouping of companions that amounts to "Past-Present-Future" and... to be honest it feels almost like we'd be treading on ground we've walked before if the Cybermen were the end of Marc between Adric, Samuel, and Bill unless something VERY different was done.
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