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Post by number13 on Jan 18, 2020 13:13:21 GMT
It seems that BF are going for the clichéd view of Churchill. I suppose, a story about some of his monstrous acts wouldn't be a good seller!! I don't know, there seem to be an awful lot of people around these days who are desperate to rubbish Churchill at all costs, I'm sure they would love a fictionalised diatribe.
It's worth pointing out to Churchill critics (mostly people on the left) that such Labour giants as Attlee and Bevin and Morrison - true Socialists all and frankly towering far above anyone I can see in Labour today - were proud to have served alongside him and said so, in writing. In many ways it was Labour who made Churchill PM and sustained him through the most crucial period in the summer of 1940. They knew his importance.
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Post by mark687 on Jan 18, 2020 14:32:15 GMT
Tentative release date for Dark Universe (per this Weeks Podcast) this Tuesday (21st of January).
Regards
mark687
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Post by cwm on Jan 18, 2020 14:42:51 GMT
"The Scorched Earth" appears to have lost the definitive article - it's now just "Scorched Earth"
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Post by Digi on Jan 18, 2020 16:28:15 GMT
"The Scorched Earth" appears to have lost the definitive article - it's now just "Scorched Earth" This is a lot of really minor revisions lol
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Post by chronotis on Jan 19, 2020 2:07:07 GMT
So the next 5th Doctor batch is: Time Apart - 4 x 1 parters Thin Time/Madquake - 2 x 2 parters The Lost Resort - 4 parter Perils and Nightmare of the Daleks - 2 x 2 parters
Puts a bit of a dent in the farcical "we need the monthly range as it will guarantee we get 4 parters" argument.
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Post by slithe on Jan 19, 2020 9:45:59 GMT
It seems that BF are going for the clichéd view of Churchill. I suppose, a story about some of his monstrous acts wouldn't be a good seller!! Sadly, I think you are right. Would BF risk a story about Churchill's Galippoli Cock-Up, something on his decision to order the RAF to conduct intense bombing raids on civilian areas at the closure of WWII, the use of the army to put down strikers in Wales/Scotland? As fascinating as these stories would be, I doubt they would be made for reasons of controversy more than anything else... However, there is a glimmer of hope - this is Churchill and the 7th Doctor. If anything, the 7th Doctor is more likely to upbraid Churchill for his monstrous acts (and is more likely to be around at the time that they would happen). Churchill, whilst he kept morale going during WWII (though he had a good team around him too from all sides of the political spectrum), was not that successful in peace time. He should have retired from politics after 1945 and stayed on the lecture circuit. Whilst he was probably the 'right' man in 1940, by 1951 the world had moved on. He left Eden with a shower (and even by 1955 Eden was past his prime as well), leaving MacMillan with the clean up (and ultimately Wilson).
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Post by constonks on Jan 19, 2020 10:54:59 GMT
So the next 5th Doctor batch is: Time Apart - 4 x 1 parters Thin Time/Madquake - 2 x 2 parters The Lost Resort - 4 parter Perils and Nightmare of the Daleks - 2 x 2 parters Puts a bit of a dent in the farcical "we need the monthly range as it will guarantee we get 4 parters" argument. Entirely possible one of those 2x2s is a 3-and-1 just to get the whole variety of Main Range formats in one set!
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Post by xlozdob on Jan 19, 2020 13:16:32 GMT
Where does the Nightmare of the Daleks thing come from? Was that the story's name on someone's CV?
ETA: Okay, nvm ignore me, just saw it on the obscure news thread.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jan 24, 2020 11:45:00 GMT
Well, after all that....the next nine titles have been announced. 260. Dark Universe (Sylvester) 261. The Psychic Circus (Sylvester) 262. Subterfuge (Sylvester) 263. Cry of the Vultriss (Colin) 264. The Scorched Earth (Colin) 265. The Lovecraft Problem (Colin) 266. Time Apart (Peter) 267. Thin Time / Madquake (Peter) 268. The Last Resort (Peter) 269. Perils and Nightmares (Peter) 270. The Flying Dutchman / Displaced (Sylvester) Renewed my sub for releases 261-266
(It would have been churlish not to after I complained that BF expected people to subscribe with no info on the stories)
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Post by slithe on Jan 26, 2020 10:42:09 GMT
Titles fine... Trailer for Subterfuge is pretty much out (albeit with some changes). As ever, devil will be in the detail... Like the fact that BF are keeping some details back. Ultimately, with changes coming, it is understandable that the range is in a bit of flux at the moment.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jan 26, 2020 20:05:12 GMT
The future of the MR was discussed again in the podcast. Nick was cryptic about what's coming, but it definitely seems to be along the lines of each dr having their own range. Two thoughts occurred to me:
1. No one is saying it, but I guess BF must also have at the back of their minds the sad reality that there will come a time when their 3 MR docs become 2 and they have to think about what would happen to the MR when that eventually comes to pass if they leave it as it is.
2. If the current thinking is each doc in their own range and no more multi-doc ranges, that would surely affect the Early Adventures as well as the MR.
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Post by adamfinch on Jan 26, 2020 20:35:42 GMT
The future of the MR was discussed again in the podcast. Nick was cryptic about what's coming, but it definitely seems to be along the lines of each dr having their own range. Two thoughts occurred to me: 1. No one is saying it, but I guess BF must also have at the back of their minds the sad reality that there will come a time when their 3 MR docs become 2 and they have to think about what would happen to the MR when that eventually comes to pass if they leave it as it is. 2. If the current thinking is each doc in their own range and no more multi-doc ranges, that would surely affect the Early Adventures as well as the MR. As the First Doctor Adventures are already a separate range I think the Early Adventures will continue as a strand as is. They’re basically now restricted to three TARDIS teams (Steven/Vicki; Polly/Jamie; Jamie/Zoe) which are predominantly Troughton era focused anyway. I had hoped that Anneke Wills and Elliot Chapman could have done a couple of post-Smugglers first Doctor EAs but recent events have made that unlikely. Plus with a new Ben and Polly cast on TV I wonder how long before the First Doctor Adventures explore that gap themselves.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jan 27, 2020 12:43:25 GMT
The future of the MR was discussed again in the podcast. Nick was cryptic about what's coming, but it definitely seems to be along the lines of each dr having their own range. Two thoughts occurred to me: 1. No one is saying it, but I guess BF must also have at the back of their minds the sad reality that there will come a time when their 3 MR docs become 2 and they have to think about what would happen to the MR when that eventually comes to pass if they leave it as it is. 2. If the current thinking is each doc in their own range and no more multi-doc ranges, that would surely affect the Early Adventures as well as the MR. As the First Doctor Adventures are already a separate range I think the Early Adventures will continue as a strand as is. They’re basically now restricted to three TARDIS teams (Steven/Vicki; Polly/Jamie; Jamie/Zoe) which are predominantly Troughton era focused anyway. I had hoped that Anneke Wills and Elliot Chapman could have done a couple of post-Smugglers first Doctor EAs but recent events have made that unlikely. Plus with a new Ben and Polly cast on TV I wonder how long before the First Doctor Adventures explore that gap themselves. Have i missed something? what recent events?
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Castellan
You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jan 27, 2020 12:45:43 GMT
As the First Doctor Adventures are already a separate range I think the Early Adventures will continue as a strand as is. They’re basically now restricted to three TARDIS teams (Steven/Vicki; Polly/Jamie; Jamie/Zoe) which are predominantly Troughton era focused anyway. I had hoped that Anneke Wills and Elliot Chapman could have done a couple of post-Smugglers first Doctor EAs but recent events have made that unlikely. Plus with a new Ben and Polly cast on TV I wonder how long before the First Doctor Adventures explore that gap themselves. Have i missed something? what recent events? Eliot Chapman announced he wasn't doing any more stories as Ben Jackson. Nick said/implied a couple of podcasts ago that this took them by surprise. It is mentioned & discussed elsewhere on other threads
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jan 27, 2020 12:47:07 GMT
Have i missed something? what recent events? Eliot Chapman announced he wasn't doing any more stories as Ben Jackson. Nick said/implied a couple of podcasts ago that this took them by surprise. It is mentioned & discussed elsewhere on other threads Oh B****r. I must have missed that. That sucks
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 14:44:58 GMT
Eliot Chapman announced he wasn't doing any more stories as Ben Jackson. Nick said/implied a couple of podcasts ago that this took them by surprise. It is mentioned & discussed elsewhere on other threads Oh B****r. I must have missed that. That sucks I'm pretty sure it was something like he felt it would be disrespectful to actually play Ben in more stories than Michael did on TV and decided to stand down. I mean there's no reason why BF couldn't recast again in the future if they want I suppose. Bit messy though.
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Post by frisby78 on Jan 27, 2020 19:37:11 GMT
Oh B****r. I must have missed that. That sucks I'm pretty sure it was something like he felt it would be disrespectful to actually play Ben in more stories than Michael did on TV and decided to stand down. I mean there's no reason why BF couldn't recast again in the future if they want I suppose. Bit messy though. That's what he said yes. He also implied he was unhappy working with Mr Dreyfuss, hence donating his fee for The Home Guard to a charity. That may have something to do with it too.
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Post by polly on Jan 27, 2020 23:16:37 GMT
That's what he said yes. He also implied he was unhappy working with Mr Dreyfuss, hence donating his fee for The Home Guard to a charity. That may have something to do with it too. That explanation seems illogical to me - surely he could have just asked BF not to work with that person anymore, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd accommodate him. Besides, it's not like the Dreyfuss Master is a Troughton era mainstay, I wouldn't expect it to have been a regular occurrence anyway. Wanting not to step on Michael Craze's toes is more understandable.
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Post by frisby78 on Jan 27, 2020 23:23:38 GMT
That's what he said yes. He also implied he was unhappy working with Mr Dreyfuss, hence donating his fee for The Home Guard to a charity. That may have something to do with it too. That explanation seems illogical to me - surely he could have just asked BF not to work with that person anymore, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd accommodate him. Besides, it's not like the Dreyfuss Master is a Troughton era mainstay, I wouldn't expect it to have been a regular occurrence anyway. Wanting not to step on Michael Craze's toes is more understandable. True, true but we don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Also, sadly, I don't think Michael Craze would be that concerned...
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Post by polly on Jan 27, 2020 23:29:36 GMT
True, true but we don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Also, sadly, I don't think Michael Craze would be that concerned... Well yeah, I realize he's too busy being deceased to mind one way or the other, but I understand wanting to respect the legacy and not overtaking him as the longest-serving Ben Jackson, is what I was trying to say lol.
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