lidar2
Castellan
You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Feb 24, 2021 15:50:39 GMT
I mean, even kitchen mud from Chernobyl would deem The Daily Mail as 'hazardous matter that may also cause nausea and infertility'. I like the way you put it but...
allowing for the article style (I'm trying not to use the word "tabloid", which seems a bit snobby to me, but it's in the same way I allow for the style of the Mirror, for example) they have some good articles sometimes, on some subjects. (Oh yes they do! )
I can 'filter' efficiently material from there, or The Guardian / Mirror for that matter. Views don't always have to match my views, 'comment is free' as another paper says. In fact I'd say no single newspaper does match my views even half the time, some more, some less, so I prefer to browse around the MSM and agree or disagree with them as I choose. I'm much too socially liberal for some papers, much too economically 'dry' for others, too proud of Britain and pro-business for the liking of some editorial lines, too interested in the wider world and environmental policy for others, and so on.
For example, not long ago the Mail had an excellent, very detailed article on the UK vaccine rollout at about the same same that the Guardian had an article explaining why France was doing better than the UK because they had vaccinated around 0.25% of people with two doses and that was more than us and only two doses really count... So which paper was better reading at that time, on that subject?
For another example, since this is the Brexit thread, no newspaper has ever matched my views on Brexit. 'Immigration' was never a problem for me, but nor did I believe we were a nasty nation which needed to be guided by an enlightened Eurocracy. I welcomed free trade, even if it came with Europe-wide rules, but could not understand people defending all those rules or the CFP or worse, the CAP, just because they were rules of the EU. I believe we need to take firm international action, quickly, to rescue the global environment, but I don't yearn for effectively the overthrow of industrial Capitalism in five years, or five months, or whatever it was. So I can't say, this paper is bad, this paper is good.
(All got a bit serious, sorry. On a lighter note, these days I try not to even glance at the comments below any article, on any subject, on any news site; there's something about people who post their opinions online... present forum company excepted, naturally. ) I prescribe a 12 month subscription to The Economist as the best option for you
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Post by number13 on Feb 24, 2021 17:09:05 GMT
I'm not able to read the article (paywalled), but from the title, I take it that's a positive story?
If a bit obvious as advice. "People who produce good products should try to sell more to customers who might want to buy more."
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Post by Chakoteya on Feb 24, 2021 17:26:20 GMT
If the article suggests that maybe people who have particular favourite / traditional cuisines and currently use shops that import the ingredients from the lands where the cuisines come from - (not just Asian, there are plenty of Polish and other food shops around too with home delicacies just as Brits seem to want to buy Marmite abroad) - should consider sourcing from more local farmers instead, then jolly good.
There'll certainly be plenty of lamb not being exported to Europe any more.
And maybe the Brits who choose to live abroad can eventually get over their need for imported stuff too. I'm thinking of that supermarket - I think it's in Paris - that hadn't had a delivery from the UK for over a week in January?
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Post by number13 on Feb 24, 2021 18:05:02 GMT
If the article suggests that maybe people who have particular favourite / traditional cuisines and currently use shops that import the ingredients from the lands where the cuisines come from - (not just Asian, there are plenty of Polish and other food shops around too with home delicacies just as Brits seem to want to buy Marmite abroad) - should consider sourcing from more local farmers instead, then jolly good.
There'll certainly be plenty of lamb not being exported to Europe any more.
And maybe the Brits who choose to live abroad can eventually get over their need for imported stuff too. I'm thinking of that supermarket - I think it's in Paris - that hadn't had a delivery from the UK for over a week in January?
We're guessing a bit from just the title, I wondered if the article meant 'British Asian middle class', or 'middle class people in Asia'?
I agree less food miles is generally a good thing, on the other hand, one of the benefits of Brexit imo should be stronger links and more trade with other Commonwealth countries where we already have so many connections.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Feb 24, 2021 19:57:33 GMT
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Post by Chakoteya on Feb 25, 2021 9:22:00 GMT
If the article suggests that maybe people who have particular favourite / traditional cuisines and currently use shops that import the ingredients from the lands where the cuisines come from - (not just Asian, there are plenty of Polish and other food shops around too with home delicacies just as Brits seem to want to buy Marmite abroad) - should consider sourcing from more local farmers instead, then jolly good.
There'll certainly be plenty of lamb not being exported to Europe any more.
And maybe the Brits who choose to live abroad can eventually get over their need for imported stuff too. I'm thinking of that supermarket - I think it's in Paris - that hadn't had a delivery from the UK for over a week in January?
We're guessing a bit from just the title, I wondered if the article meant 'British Asian middle class', or 'middle class people in Asia'?
I agree less food miles is generally a good thing, on the other hand, one of the benefits of Brexit imo should be stronger links and more trade with other Commonwealth countries where we already have so many connections.
Sooo - looking at the export side of it instead - the Powers That Be need to sort out all the export / vet / food hygiene paperwork required to send food stuffs out of this country now.
Somehow I don't think the British public will be supporting live export of lamb to muslim countries for halal slaughter, though. There was enough kerfuffle over exports to Europe when we still had open borders.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Mar 1, 2021 0:33:41 GMT
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Mar 1, 2021 19:29:42 GMT
I had to share this because, well, just look at it: And if you're wondering, thinking this is Remainer satire, behold: In the immortal words of a great philosopher: they've lost the plot.
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Post by mark687 on Mar 1, 2021 20:29:21 GMT
I had to share this because, well, just look at it: And if you're wondering, thinking this is Remainer satire, behold: In the immortal words of a great philosopher: they've lost the plot. Don't often LOL at this Thread but Thanks Regards mark687
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Post by number13 on Mar 2, 2021 1:16:09 GMT
I had to share this because, well, just look at it: And if you're wondering, thinking this is Remainer satire, behold: In the immortal words of a great philosopher: they've lost the plot. The 'peas' story is obviously a red herring. Leave voters only eat mushy peas bought at the local chippy (when it's open again) to go with their red herrings, and eat them on their way from the dole office to the dog track or the pigeon racing, as any fule kno.
Remember this classic bit of rebranding for *posh proto-Remainer townies?
"Pilchards" = old-fashioned British fish with memories of wartime rations
"Sardines" = healthy food enjoyed on southern European holidays at one's villa
so...
Presumably that bit of food rebranding was OK since it made a British fish name more European?
* I have no evidence whatsoever that the customers who bought 19% more pilchards after they were renamed 'sardines' were posh, went on to vote Remain or lived in big towns. DYOR
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Post by number13 on Mar 2, 2021 10:54:04 GMT
For all you nice Leave voters who may pass this way, the portrayal of "typical" Leavers in the previous post was me being sarky about the views of some ultra-Remainists, not my views. Just for online clarity.
(For such ultra-Remainists who may pass this way, yes you often do and you know it! )
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Mar 2, 2021 20:22:49 GMT
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Post by number13 on Mar 2, 2021 23:37:25 GMT
Meanwhile in France...
but what the headline doesn't say, still not approved for over 75s despite enough positive evidence to practically bridge the Channel with if all the data was printed out and glued together. And in Germany, no movement at all, still only for the under 65s - and 1.25 million Ox/AZ doses sitting there unused and 1.5 million in France (and it's hard to avoid the conclusion it's misinformation that's responsible for that lack of uptake.)
On the whole, I think we're better off with a government making a cock-up over shellfish and getting the other thing right, but just as you like.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Mar 3, 2021 8:41:45 GMT
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lidar2
Castellan
You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 3, 2021 8:52:38 GMT
In fairness to the minister, he was probably just signing letters civil servants put in from of him in both cases.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Mar 3, 2021 8:58:19 GMT
In fairness to the minister, he was probably just signing letters civil servants put in from of him in both cases. You can confirm this?
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Post by Chakoteya on Mar 3, 2021 9:12:35 GMT
Not known as George Useless in the Eye for nothing...
And he did try to get elected for UKIP to the European Parliament despite being thoroughly Cornish and therefore well aware of the huge investments the EU has made in the Cornish economy...
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lidar2
Castellan
You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 3, 2021 11:25:19 GMT
In fairness to the minister, he was probably just signing letters civil servants put in from of him in both cases. You can confirm this? No, the clue is in the word "probably"
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Mar 3, 2021 12:13:44 GMT
No, the clue is in the word "probably" So it's a meaningless suggestion.
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Post by number13 on Mar 4, 2021 0:38:30 GMT
No, the clue is in the word "probably" So it's a meaningless suggestion. I'm really tempted to comment, but I will restrain myself.
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