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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 14:46:27 GMT
Who buys a packet of posh cheese from the other side of the Atlantic by parcel post anyway? I know about smug middle class types scoring points on the artisanal front at the guests for dinner battlegrounds, but thought they were mostly overpaid and over here. "I had this excellent Goats Cheese brought all the way from India. Taken the long way past the Cape on a sailing yacht, for maturity and authenticity. Actually it was Goats Milk, but it got a but churned up along the way and the chiller packed up. But never mind - enjoy!" Quite a few people I guess considering the impact it has had on this particular business. Don't ya love a good curdle?
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Apr 8, 2021 14:53:05 GMT
Quite a few people I guess considering the impact it has had on this particular business. Don't ya love a good curdle? no
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2021 9:33:26 GMT
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Apr 18, 2021 21:17:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 21:32:09 GMT
Interesting to see a few English football teams are so unhappy with Brexit they are looking towards closer ties with Europe in their own special way...
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Post by number13 on Apr 18, 2021 22:28:11 GMT
That's nonsense, everyone sensible knows Brexit was really a plot by alien lizard-warriors who hate our lovely British cheese because it's the only substance in the Universe that can defeat them.
Don't fall for the propaganda Comrades, eat more tasty cheese and down with the Great Lizard!
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Post by mark687 on Apr 28, 2021 8:09:25 GMT
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Apr 28, 2021 8:49:13 GMT
Looks like brexit will claim another victim as it could soon be au revoir to Arlene
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Post by number13 on Apr 28, 2021 11:19:49 GMT
I guess we can agree on 'for better than nothing'.
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Post by mark687 on Apr 28, 2021 15:52:08 GMT
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Apr 29, 2021 22:52:34 GMT
The leading candidate to replace her seems to be Edwin Poots who is best summed up as having big ears but not very much between them. In other news the UK has failed to reach agreement on fishing for 2021 with Norway. So our fishermen now have less access to Norwegian waters than they did as part of the EU. Turns out that we maybe did have more negotiating muscle with 3rd countries as part of the EU than going it alone after all . . . .
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Post by mark687 on Apr 29, 2021 23:08:48 GMT
The leading candidate to replace her seems to be Edwin Poots who is best summed up as having big ears but nothing between them. In other news the UK has failed to reach agreement on fishing for 2022 with Norway. So our fishermen now have less access to Norwegian waters than they did as part of the EU. Turns out that we maybe did have more negotiating muscle with 3rd countries as part of the EU than going it alone after all . . . . Double irony that the 2nd largest UK fishing firm is actually owned by a Dutch/Icelandic Conglomerate Regards mark687
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Post by nucleusofswarm on May 1, 2021 12:27:55 GMT
The leading candidate to replace her seems to be Edwin Poots who is best summed up as having big ears but not very much between them. In other news the UK has failed to reach agreement on fishing for 2021 with Norway. So our fishermen now have less access to Norwegian waters than they did as part of the EU. Turns out that we maybe did have more negotiating muscle with 3rd countries as part of the EU than going it alone after all . . . .
'Protect our fishermen! Protect our fishermen! Protect our fishermen!' was one of things arch-Brexiteers kept banging on about. Now this is, what, the third or fourth time they've let this very group down.
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Post by mark687 on May 1, 2021 12:33:06 GMT
The leading candidate to replace her seems to be Edwin Poots who is best summed up as having big ears but not very much between them. In other news the UK has failed to reach agreement on fishing for 2021 with Norway. So our fishermen now have less access to Norwegian waters than they did as part of the EU. Turns out that we maybe did have more negotiating muscle with 3rd countries as part of the EU than going it alone after all . . . .
'Protect our fishermen! Protect our fishermen! Protect our fishermen!' was one of things arch-Brexiteers kept banging on about. Now this is, what, the third or fourth time they've let this very group down.
Agreed It literally came down to the price of fish, and its still everyone hates on that score. Regards mark687
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 14:22:00 GMT
The leading candidate to replace her seems to be Edwin Poots who is best summed up as having big ears but not very much between them. In other news the UK has failed to reach agreement on fishing for 2021 with Norway. So our fishermen now have less access to Norwegian waters than they did as part of the EU. Turns out that we maybe did have more negotiating muscle with 3rd countries as part of the EU than going it alone after all . . . . Slightly worrying is his views on (or denial of) Natural History: from wikipedia: Poots is a young earth creationist and rejects the theory of evolution. In an interview with BBC presenter William Crawley, when asked how old the Earth was, Poots replied: "My view on the earth is that it's a young earth. My view is 4,000 BC".Clearly he has never listened to Doctor Who: Exploration Earth nor read the Doctor Who Discovers series as a child. Or perhaps he did and assumed them to be full-on science fiction.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 3:52:59 GMT
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Post by number13 on May 4, 2021 11:05:23 GMT
Very. And the analysis piece within the article on the long-term potential.
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Post by lidar2 on May 4, 2021 13:18:18 GMT
Very. And the analysis piece within the article on the long-term potential. Don't be taken in by Leaver spin. This is not a free trade agreement signed because of brexit, it is a collection of private contracts between British and Indian businesses, of the sort that could have been signed before brexit and regularly were. It is the result of what would have been called (pre brexit) a trade mission whereby a government minister leads a delegation of British business to another country in order to facilitate the singing of some lucrative contracts. Which is all good, and I'm not knocking it, but . . . it's just the same as used to happen before Brexit. We didn't need to leave the EU to get any of this. In the past something like this would have been item 12 or 13 on the news bulletin but the government spin has bumped it up the agenda in order to make it look like brexit was a good idea. Kind of like the spin around vaccine procurement - something we could have done in the EU had we not left, but being misleadingly portrayed as a benefit of leaving. As for the potential future Free Trade agreement that will of course be a good thing if it makes us better off, but the fact of a trade deal proves nothing in and of itself. Anyone can sign a trade deal if they are prepared to grant the other country favourable access without getting very much in return. And unfortunately this seems to be the emerging pattern post brexit - the government is so desperate to make brexit look like a success and get headlines about trade deals that they are letting the other countries get the lion's share of the deals' benefits. I see from the article that the proposed Indian deal will mean letting in more immigrants. That's no problem for me because I believe, as I have posted before on this forum, immigration is a good thing as it solves the long term economic problem of our ageing population. But I thought immigration and taking back control of our borders was one of the reasons to leave the EU. Far be it from me to suggest the Leave campaign may have fibbed, but I thought we were taking back control of our borders so we could let fewer people in, not more. Yet another broken leaver promise. And as for doing a deal with India? Recent developments and the increasing persecution of Christians and Muslims are very alarming. Under Narendra Modi and the Hindu nationalist BJP India is turning into the sort of authoritarian regime for which we ought to be thinking about trade sanctions rather than trade deals. But, to be fair to the government, what else can we do? Brexit has put us in a position where beggars can't be choosers so I suppose we have to make the best of it.
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Post by doctorkernow on May 4, 2021 21:07:24 GMT
Hello again.
I have left this thread well alone for a while because the whole thing upsets me so much. I just wanted to say you make some very good points Lidar2. This is the problem with making deals with any country. Do you overlook human rights abuses in favour of job creation and profit or do you take an ethical stance and this leads to job losses and economic problems.
We have the G7 invading Cornwall next month and I'm dreading it. Protestors will no doubt cause trouble, traffic west of Camborne will be a nightmare. Thank goodness it is only for a short time. I hope businesses in Cornwall benefit from the extra visitors but ord'nary locals will no doubt be inconvenienced particularly anyone in St Ives, Carbis Bay and Hayle. What makes me laugh is the A30 finishes at either Hayle or the St Erth roundabout. From there the big cars will have to negotiate a rather meandering A road before heading down a steep hill to the hotel.
Take care Brexit reporters...
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Post by number13 on May 5, 2021 12:37:44 GMT
Very. And the analysis piece within the article on the long-term potential. Don't be taken in by Leaver spin. This is not a free trade agreement signed because of brexit, it is a collection of private contracts between British and Indian businesses, of the sort that could have been signed before brexit and regularly were. It is the result of what would have been called (pre brexit) a trade mission whereby a government minister leads a delegation of British business to another country in order to facilitate the singing of some lucrative contracts. Which is all good, and I'm not knocking it, but . . . it's just the same as used to happen before Brexit. We didn't need to leave the EU to get any of this. In the past something like this would have been item 12 or 13 on the news bulletin but the government spin has bumped it up the agenda in order to make it look like brexit was a good idea. Kind of like the spin around vaccine procurement - something we could have done in the EU had we not left, but being misleadingly portrayed as a benefit of leaving. As for the potential future Free Trade agreement that will of course be a good thing if it makes us better off, but the fact of a trade deal proves nothing in and of itself. Anyone can sign a trade deal if they are prepared to grant the other country favourable access without getting very much in return. And unfortunately this seems to be the emerging pattern post brexit - the government is so desperate to make brexit look like a success and get headlines about trade deals that they are letting the other countries get the lion's share of the deals' benefits. I see from the article that the proposed Indian deal will mean letting in more immigrants. That's no problem for me because I believe, as I have posted before on this forum, immigration is a good thing as it solves the long term economic problem of our ageing population. But I thought immigration and taking back control of our borders was one of the reasons to leave the EU. Far be it from me to suggest the Leave campaign may have fibbed, but I thought we were taking back control of our borders so we could let fewer people in, not more. Yet another broken leaver promise. And as for doing a deal with India? Recent developments and the increasing persecution of Christians and Muslims are very alarming. Under Narendra Modi and the Hindu nationalist BJP India is turning into the sort of authoritarian regime for which we ought to be thinking about trade sanctions rather than trade deals. But, to be fair to the government, what else can we do? Brexit has put us in a position where beggars can't be choosers so I suppose we have to make the best of it. The problem with trade and ethics is, where do you draw the line and who draws it? I agree there should be a line, but there are a lot of people on the Left who would ban trade with the US if they could, because because etc. etc. Would there be more than a dozen major countries beyond Europe that met our standards? Or even that many?
I agree with you about the benefits of migration, but that isn't contradictory to the idea of 'taking back control' of our borders. Uncontrolled, large-scale 'low-skilled' migration was the driver of discontent (and economic growth, I know!), not people coming on visas to fill jobs in certain sectors. I really don't believe that most Leavers had or have a problem with "immigrants" per se, not legal immigrants anyway.
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