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Post by Tim Bradley on Oct 30, 2015 13:52:35 GMT
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 31, 2015 16:32:19 GMT
Moffat's intention with the Brigadier's death seems clear to me as being set in the 2010's. The Brigadier therefore has the same dating confusion as UNIT IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2015 18:33:40 GMT
Moffat's intention with the Brigadier's death seems clear to me as being set in the 2010's. The Brigadier therefore has the same dating confusion as UNIT IMO. It's impossible to tell the dating of the Brig's death from the TV references, although you can make some inferences from dialogue in the modern UNIT stories (assuming you can deduce when they're set). it's also intensely frustrating that doc 11 forgets he has a time machine and can still pop back and see him any time.
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Post by david on Oct 31, 2015 23:40:28 GMT
Moffat's intention with the Brigadier's death seems clear to me as being set in the 2010's. The Brigadier therefore has the same dating confusion as UNIT IMO. It's impossible to tell the dating of the Brig's death from the TV references, although you can make some inferences from dialogue in the modern UNIT stories (assuming you can deduce when they're set). it's also intensely frustrating that doc 11 forgets he has a time machine and can still pop back and see him any time. As River said on a very similiar topic "He doesn't like endings".
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Post by Tim Bradley on Jan 4, 2016 15:37:43 GMT
Hello everyone! I've now added more short stories in prose to the Brigadier's timeline. Enjoy! Tim.
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Post by Tim Bradley on Mar 8, 2016 22:09:46 GMT
Hello everyone! I've now updated the Brigadier's timeline thread by having it as a page view instead of a PDF view for users to see. Enjoy! Tim.
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Post by 8doctormcgann on Sept 3, 2016 10:45:15 GMT
Will the new Lethbridge-Stewart Novels and Short Stories be added to the timeline?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2016 22:39:28 GMT
It's impossible to tell the dating of the Brig's death from the TV references, although you can make some inferences from dialogue in the modern UNIT stories (assuming you can deduce when they're set). it's also intensely frustrating that doc 11 forgets he has a time machine and can still pop back and see him any time. As River said on a very similiar topic "He doesn't like endings". If any incarnation were to be by the Brigadier's bedside when he died, I'd say it would have been the Seventh Doctor since he knew (either through first-hand or second-hand knowledge) before the events of Battlefield. Eleven seems exceptional in the fact that he won't commit to an unhappy ending, even if it's a simple inevitable thing like a dear friend perishing of old age. He might have even offered the Brigadier a way out and had the idea swept aside by the old chap himself. That'd make sense of his actions actually, that he'd tried his typical Elevenish cheating of fate and Alistair wouldn't have a bar of it.
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Post by sailorhaumea on Apr 28, 2017 4:40:43 GMT
The Lethbridge-Stewart series anthologies shouldn't be grouped together. They jump around a lot. Here is the current official chronology: lethbridgestewartnovels.wordpress.com/2017/04/27/story-chronology/I would follow this to the letter when it comes to which order they go in. Although not listed there, "The Forgotten Son original opening" (literally the title), published in THE HAVOC Files, also takes place in 2011, before The Lock-In. Ashes of the Inferno is right after...well, Inferno.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Jun 3, 2022 0:38:59 GMT
Interestingly BF appeared to have done some canon welding of their own in regards to the Brigadier’s timeline that has gone largely unnoticed.
Obviously we all know that in Happy Endings the Brigadier is saved from a terminal illness when he gets rejuvenated at Benny’s wedding in Cheldon Bonniface, 2010. Then in The Shadows of Avalon it’s revealed that by 2012 Doris has died in a boating accident. He ends up staying behind in Avalon to start a new life. Then the novel The King of Terror reveals that he returned to Earth 30 years later in roughly 2032 and was still alive into the 2050s.
Well Short Trips: The History of Christmas has two short stories that effectively reduce all of this to an alternate timeline.
The Gift features the First Doctor turning up on the Brig’s doorstep and trying to subtly hint to him that he should get rid of his new boat because it might lead to something bad happening. There’s a clear implication that the First Doctor is in touch with a future incarnation and the Brigadier decides to get rid of the boat because he catches the Doctor’s drift essentially and realises that the Doctor knows something he doesn’t and is trying to steer him away from it.
Then the other story, Not In My Back Yard features the Eighth Doctor. He visits a still rejuvenated Brigadier in Cheldon Bonniface 2017. The Doctor makes a comment that the Brigadier owes him for Christmas 95 and the Brigadier is unsure of what he means. The Doctor later asks how Doris and yes she’s completely fine. The Doctor then reiterates that yes the Brigadier does owe him for Christmas 95 because Doris is with him. Which seems like a clear reference to The Gift.
This would mean that the Doctor has changed the timeline entirely to avoid Doris’s death, the Brigadier’s time in Avalon and eventual retirement in the 2050s. Instead Doris doesn’t die and they instead retire to Cheldon Bonniface where they are living happily as late as 2017.
This of course doesn’t reconcile the fact that the Brigadier dies as an old man in 2011 according to New Series continuity, but this at least reigns things in a bit compared to before.
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