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Post by eric009 on Oct 29, 2017 7:57:32 GMT
where does Mondas fit in the Silurian timeline
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Post by omega on Oct 29, 2017 8:02:51 GMT
You might want to check out the Directors Cut of Blood Heat.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Oct 30, 2017 12:48:29 GMT
Where's that available?
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Post by mark687 on Oct 30, 2017 13:30:48 GMT
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Oct 30, 2017 17:08:04 GMT
Had no idea that existed, so I shall go there. Cheeky beggar lol. I wants it |
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Post by fitzoliverj on Oct 30, 2017 17:55:13 GMT
Hmm... not sure that review makes me awfully interested to read an alternative version of "Blood Heat." But I'd be interested to know what eric009 meant by his original question.
If you mean, what's the connection between Mondas and the Silurians going into hibernation.... well, we're told they went into hibernation because a big rock was heading towards Earth, but it stayed in orbit as the Moon, so their computers never woke them up.
Meanwhile, Mondas had been slowly drifting out of a normal orbit for eons, thanks to an experiment by the Constructors of Destiny. I'd like to think that this only made life on Mondas tough, and that it was a lot, lot later when evolution was overcome by the conditions and the population had to find an alternative solution...
.... and, yes, it could very well work by having the Moon adding extra gravitational force to affect Mondas's orbit.
On the other hand, if you're talking about the comic strip in DWM, then, yes, parallel evolution meant that Reptile Men arose independently on both Mondas and Earth. On Mondas they dabbled with cybernetics before going extinct, and on Earth they dabbled with cryogenics before going to sleep.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 6:37:58 GMT
Had no idea that existed, so I shall go there. Cheeky beggar lol. I wants it I got it on pre-order.  It's very Jim Mortimore. The original felt like a Target novelisation for a 90s television story we never quite got, but its successor manages to be a bit more visceral. There's an extra dimension at play amongst the expanded material that it nearly teeters over into becoming a completely different book. I think it might've contributed a bit towards choosing Unbound Imaginings actually, now that I think about it... Assuming that the Earther and Mondasian humans developed at the same pace, it's likely that when the twin world was removed from orbit, they were probably still only apes. It's entirely possible that the Silurians whose society evolved into the Lizard Kings (on Mondas) had originally come from Earth by rocket or something similar, prior to the arrival of the Moon. The Earth-based reptiles might have had a relationship with Mondas not entirely like humans' current attitude towards Mars or the Moon. |
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Oct 31, 2017 10:27:50 GMT
The old “Cybermen” comic from DWM situated them at the same time.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Oct 31, 2017 10:28:52 GMT
I did a fan-fic here where the Dcotor arrives on the day Mondas left orbit and helped the Silurians survive.
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Nov 7, 2017 16:17:59 GMT
where does Mondas fit in the Silurian timeline Good luck. |
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Post by Digi on Nov 10, 2017 15:46:12 GMT
Would there even be any overlap? Isn’t Mondas’s original orbit supposed to have been on the opposite side of the sun from Earth? (So there never would have been any cross pollination anyway)
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Post by iainmclaughlin on Nov 10, 2017 19:37:46 GMT
Had no idea that existed, so I shall go there. Cheeky beggar lol. I wants it I got it on pre-order. It's very Jim Mortimore. The original felt like a Target novelisation for a 90s television story we never quite got, but its successor manages to be a bit more visceral. There's an extra dimension at play amongst the expanded material that it nearly teeters over into becoming a completely different book. I think it might've contributed a bit towards choosing Unbound Imaginings actually, now that I think about it... Assuming that the Earther and Mondasian humans developed at the same pace, it's likely that when the twin world was removed from orbit, they were probably still only apes. It's entirely possible that the Silurians whose society evolved into the Lizard Kings (on Mondas) had originally come from Earth by rocket or something similar, prior to the arrival of the Moon. The Earth-based reptiles might have had a relationship with Mondas not entirely like humans' current attitude towards Mars or the Moon. I love the original Blood Heat but I really love the redux version. Jim's doing an Erimem novel, A Pharaoh of Mars, so we were talking a fair bit during the time Jim was putting the Director's Cut together. He pinged it across for me for a read and it blew me away. I'm a fan of Jim's writing and I love that he's never met a risk he's not willing to take. There are times the revised version feels like it's heading towards being a different book but it stays a glorious read. Am I gushing? Does it show that I really like this one? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 21:10:43 GMT
I got it on pre-order. It's very Jim Mortimore. The original felt like a Target novelisation for a 90s television story we never quite got, but its successor manages to be a bit more visceral. There's an extra dimension at play amongst the expanded material that it nearly teeters over into becoming a completely different book. I think it might've contributed a bit towards choosing Unbound Imaginings actually, now that I think about it... Assuming that the Earther and Mondasian humans developed at the same pace, it's likely that when the twin world was removed from orbit, they were probably still only apes. It's entirely possible that the Silurians whose society evolved into the Lizard Kings (on Mondas) had originally come from Earth by rocket or something similar, prior to the arrival of the Moon. The Earth-based reptiles might have had a relationship with Mondas not entirely like humans' current attitude towards Mars or the Moon. I love the original Blood Heat but I really love the redux version. Jim's doing an Erimem novel, A Pharaoh of Mars, so we were talking a fair bit during the time Jim was putting the Director's Cut together. He pinged it across for me for a read and it blew me away. I'm a fan of Jim's writing and I love that he's never met a risk he's not willing to take. There are times the revised version feels like it's heading towards being a different book but it stays a glorious read. Am I gushing? Does it show that I really like this one? I'm a really big fan of it too. I chatted with him all too briefly in regards to getting a copy and he's a genuinely nice guy to boot. Really enthusiastic about his ideas and he's got a real sense of how to make it all come together. It's that glorious Rama-like moment whenever you get to the big ideas with his books, it feels fundamentally alien, like you really have stumbled across something not meant for mortal minds. I snagged the Blood Heat DC along with his two anthologies ( The Sun in the Bone House and The Age of Broken Miracles) and they're just consistently marvellous. I think he falls under the handful of authors who have managed to win me over before the table of contents with: "This novel is entirely a work of fiction. And sugar. A confiction, if you will."  Him doing Edgar Rice Burroughs feels marvellous, I'll definitely be picking up a copy of A Pharaoh of Mars once it comes out. |
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Post by iainmclaughlin on Nov 11, 2017 22:44:23 GMT
I love the original Blood Heat but I really love the redux version. Jim's doing an Erimem novel, A Pharaoh of Mars, so we were talking a fair bit during the time Jim was putting the Director's Cut together. He pinged it across for me for a read and it blew me away. I'm a fan of Jim's writing and I love that he's never met a risk he's not willing to take. There are times the revised version feels like it's heading towards being a different book but it stays a glorious read. Am I gushing? Does it show that I really like this one? I'm a really big fan of it too. I chatted with him all too briefly in regards to getting a copy and he's a genuinely nice guy to boot. Really enthusiastic about his ideas and he's got a real sense of how to make it all come together. It's that glorious Rama-like moment whenever you get to the big ideas with his books, it feels fundamentally alien, like you really have stumbled across something not meant for mortal minds. I snagged the Blood Heat DC along with his two anthologies ( The Sun in the Bone House and The Age of Broken Miracles) and they're just consistently marvellous. I think he falls under the handful of authors who have managed to win me over before the table of contents with: "This novel is entirely a work of fiction. And sugar. A confiction, if you will." Him doing Edgar Rice Burroughs feels marvellous, I'll definitely be picking up a copy of A Pharaoh of Mars once it comes out. I like lots of writers - but there are some whose work I just adore, and Jim falls into that category. When I started Thebes I had my little wish list of people I wanted to work with. Jim was up there because I thought he'd come up with something brain-boggling. His work is just constantly surprising, challenging and well, glorious. I had the title A Pharaoh of Mars buzzing in my head but no story to go with it. Jim asked if he could have it which was fine with me. He's delivering something special. It's way bigger than any of the other books but the way he has captured an other-worldliness, the adventure of Edgar Rice Burroughs, the struggle of being young... he's doing all of that in an epic with immense scope. I think I'm a pretty decent writer, but Jim writes things I can't and on a scale that awes me. And as you say, a really nice guy. By the way, samples of A Pharaoh of Mars are available on Jim's Facebook page - Jimbo's Director's Cuts. My goodness, they're good. In case you haven't seen it I'll add a rough of the cover here. Cover also by Jim.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2017 10:09:22 GMT
I'm a really big fan of it too. I chatted with him all too briefly in regards to getting a copy and he's a genuinely nice guy to boot. Really enthusiastic about his ideas and he's got a real sense of how to make it all come together. It's that glorious Rama-like moment whenever you get to the big ideas with his books, it feels fundamentally alien, like you really have stumbled across something not meant for mortal minds. I snagged the Blood Heat DC along with his two anthologies ( The Sun in the Bone House and The Age of Broken Miracles) and they're just consistently marvellous. I think he falls under the handful of authors who have managed to win me over before the table of contents with: "This novel is entirely a work of fiction. And sugar. A confiction, if you will." Him doing Edgar Rice Burroughs feels marvellous, I'll definitely be picking up a copy of A Pharaoh of Mars once it comes out. I like lots of writers - but there are some whose work I just adore, and Jim falls into that category. When I started Thebes I had my little wish list of people I wanted to work with. Jim was up there because I thought he'd come up with something brain-boggling. His work is just constantly surprising, challenging and well, glorious. I had the title A Pharaoh of Mars buzzing in my head but no story to go with it. Jim asked if he could have it which was fine with me. He's delivering something special. It's way bigger than any of the other books but the way he has captured an other-worldliness, the adventure of Edgar Rice Burroughs, the struggle of being young... he's doing all of that in an epic with immense scope. I think I'm a pretty decent writer, but Jim writes things I can't and on a scale that awes me. And as you say, a really nice guy. By the way, samples of A Pharaoh of Mars are available on Jim's Facebook page - Jimbo's Director's Cuts. My goodness, they're good. In case you haven't seen it I'll add a rough of the cover here. Cover also by Jim. Thanks for this. I'm certain I don't need to say this, but guys, seriously go and take a look at the page. It's a great place for watching stories develop and the snippets are super fun to read.  |
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It's very Jim Mortimore. The original felt like a Target novelisation for a 90s television story we never quite got, but its successor manages to be a bit more visceral. There's an extra dimension at play amongst the expanded material that it nearly teeters over into becoming a completely different book. I think it might've contributed a bit towards choosing Unbound Imaginings actually, now that I think about it...
