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Post by shallacatop on Nov 12, 2018 15:42:49 GMT
Tyrants of Logic is a great story too. The first half are fantastic, great world building, a nice build up of the Cyber threat and almost rather Western like. The second half doesn’t quite reach those highs, it’s more traditional and meanders a bit, particularly in Part 3, but still really good. Part 3 is worth it for Jo talking to the bedridden Doctor; beautifully played by Katy Manning.
The addition to the Cyber mythology is well thought out. A little more akin to Steven Moffat’s portrayal of the Cybermen, than what would’ve happened in the 70s, but welcome nonetheless. The Cyber Leveller is rather Dalek like, though!
Great set overall.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 8:12:01 GMT
Heavens to Betsy, there I was listing to 'The Rise of the New Humans' with my headphones on, all lovely and peaceful with a nice cuppa in the early hours when the scene where the body comes back to life in the morgue made me literally jump 3 feet out of my seat, I ended up with scolding hot Earl Gray all down my clean T-Shirt and a burnt right thigh
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 17:36:49 GMT
... Not really feeling this set, and there is something about Jo that sounds off to me, sometimes Katy Manning really hits the spot, at others she sounds like a 13 year old school girl with a lisp, to my ear at least.
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Post by thelonecenturion on Mar 19, 2021 18:58:53 GMT
I've just listened to The Rise of the New Humans and... wow. This was my first taste of The Third Doctor Adventures and I absolutely loved it. It recreates the era perfectly. Interestingly, and with no offence meant to anyone, I'd previously been part of the camp that Jon Culshaw was a better Third Doc than Tim Treloar, judging by what I'd heard of them in the past, however this proved me wrong. While Culshaw is perhaps more technically accurate in terms of the voice, his is definitely an impression rather than a portrayal. Treloar absolutely shone here, and, while it didn't necessarily fool me into thinking I was listening to Pertwee, I was definitely listening to the Third Doctor. Likewise, Katy Manning was as spectacular as ever at recreating Jo all these years later. The acting from all the supporting cast (bar one, but more on that later) perfectly complimented Guy Adams's script, which took a really interesting look at what makes humans human. The music was great as well, really evoking the era in which the story was set.
To be perfectly honest (not sure if this is a controversial view or not), the only aspect I didn't like was Rufus Hound's Monk. I've never seen The Time Meddler, or heard any other Monk stories, so while I have nothing to compare it to, I just found him to be really annoying. I know that's partly the point of the character, but to me, Hound was overacting quite a bit, and there were points where this took me out of the story. However, I became less irritated by his portrayal as the story went on, which is a positive.
Overall, this was a really strong story, and Treloar has been sold to me as the perfect recasting of the great Jon Pertwee. I can't wait to listen to more of this series, and will post my thoughts on The Tyrants of Logic on this thread when I've listened to it. 9/10.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 24, 2023 16:58:23 GMT
Almost OOP on CD and currently on Discount till 25th February 11:59PM UK Time
Regards
mark687
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Mar 2, 2023 15:51:02 GMT
Purchased it. Also asked how many there were left of the first 3. Havent had a response yet lol
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Post by 20fridge on Apr 9, 2024 23:47:01 GMT
I just finished The Rise of the New Humans, and the story just feels off somehow. While I totally understand why the Third Doctor objects to the Monk's meddling, he comes off as unsympathetic to the Monk's patients. It just left a bad taste in my mouth. It's a shame, because there were some interesting ideas, and I usually love stories with the Monk in them.
I'm enjoying The Tyrants of Logic much much more. It seems to be playing with similar themes, but the Cybermen seem much better suited to the story. It's really great to get a Third Doctor cybermen story. It's also fun to get a story dealing with the aftermath of the Cyberwars.
So far I'm finding this a rather mixed set. I do find it interesting that both stories feature returning antagonists.
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Post by elkawho on Apr 15, 2024 11:25:34 GMT
I just finished The Rise of the New Humans, and the story just feels off somehow. While I totally understand why the Third Doctor objects to the Monk's meddling, he comes off as unsympathetic to the Monk's patients. It just left a bad taste in my mouth. It's a shame, because there were some interesting ideas, and I usually love stories with the Monk in them. I'm enjoying The Tyrants of Logic much much more. It seems to be playing with similar themes, but the Cybermen seem much better suited to the story. It's really great to get a Third Doctor cybermen story. It's also fun to get a story dealing with the aftermath of the Cyberwars. So far I'm finding this a rather mixed set. I do find it interesting that both stories feature returning antagonists. I agree with you regarding The Rise of the New Humans, although I have warmed to it a bit with subsequent listens. Even so, The Tyrants of Logic is a much better story. Absolutely.
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Post by number13 on Apr 15, 2024 13:36:01 GMT
I just finished The Rise of the New Humans, and the story just feels off somehow. While I totally understand why the Third Doctor objects to the Monk's meddling, he comes off as unsympathetic to the Monk's patients. It just left a bad taste in my mouth. It's a shame, because there were some interesting ideas, and I usually love stories with the Monk in them. I'm enjoying The Tyrants of Logic much much more. It seems to be playing with similar themes, but the Cybermen seem much better suited to the story. It's really great to get a Third Doctor cybermen story. It's also fun to get a story dealing with the aftermath of the Cyberwars. So far I'm finding this a rather mixed set. I do find it interesting that both stories feature returning antagonists. I agree with you regarding The Rise of the New Humans, although I have warmed to it a bit with subsequent listens. Even so, The Tyrants of Logic is a much better story. Absolutely. I got a distinct 'private healthcare is bad' message from 'Rise of the New Humans' and it's another example of how the Monk is rarely written as I think he should be. Here he's a greedy businessman interfering for profit more than any other reason. I prefer the Monk of 'The Secret History' where he offers the Doctor the chance to save lives using anachronistic technology, knowing he won't. But the Monk would. And that's a much more interesting dilemma.
I think the Monk should meddle with good intentions (and yes, for the chance of a quick buck on the side!) but without thinking it through so his good intentions lead to disaster until, of course, the Doctor fixes things yet again! There are elements of that in this story, but not enough imo.
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