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Post by Ela on Dec 20, 2017 19:28:25 GMT
This was a good story, but not as good as some of the other Peri and Erimem stories.
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Post by ljwilson on Dec 16, 2020 19:39:28 GMT
A relisten for me. I really couldn't get past part 2 the first time I tried, but this time I ploughed on and I'm glad I did.
Part 1 really does set things up nicely, with the colonial setting and the faux General and his northern biographer as really good characters. Edward De Souza (of Mission to the Unknown fame) and his silky tones are suitably sinister.
Part 2 was a bit much for me. The 30-odd minutes of psychological warfare that slowly whittles away at Erimem's confidence is well done, but I probably need a relisten at some point to work out WHY.
Part 3 is very much the Doctor figuring things out, with the excellent supporting cast slowly realising that they are off to the mountain to face their doom. It is slow, but I like slow today.
Part 4....(edit - I like how davros didn't mind I hadn't written anything for part 4!) The chat at the gentleman's club was excellent (isn't Peter Davison ace as the Doctor?) but I sort of forgot to concentrate for parts of it.
So, a good 6 out of 10 from me and it was worth the effort to revisit this one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 20:29:47 GMT
A relisten for me. I really couldn't get past part 2 the first time I tried, but this time I ploughed on and I'm glad I did. Part 1 really does set things up nicely, with the colonial setting and the faux General and his northern biographer as really good characters. Edward De Souza (of Mission to the Unknown fame) and his silky tones are suitably sinister. Part 2 was a bit much for me. The 30-odd minutes of psychological warfare that slowly whittles away at Erimem's confidence is well done, but I probably need a relisten at some point to work out WHY. Part 3 is very much the Doctor figuring things out, with the excellent supporting cast slowly realising that they are off to the mountain to face their doom. It is slow, but I like slow today. Part 4....(edit - I like how davros didn't mind I hadn't written anything for part 4!) The chat at the gentleman's club was excellent (isn't Peter Davison ace as the Doctor?) but I sort of forgot to concentrate for parts of it. So, a good 6 out of 10 from me and it was worth the effort to revisit this one. All stories are worth a revisit at times especially if you don’t originally engage I feel it is only fair to the writers directors actors etc etc.Like I said no one goes out to write a bad story...or may’be they do.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 7:01:12 GMT
Well I loved this revisit but it is one I enjoy anyways -I think as when I first listened I did the expected and thought The Great Intelligence.But this is a good story with the usual great soundscaping and with lots for the main cast to engage in. a lot to enjoy ,the cricketing Doctor and the wonderful biographer and Peri gets to use some of her botany expertise and the Doctors preference for bonfires when offered a cigar,liked that.I would recommend it to people and certainly I don’t feel it is as negative story ,Me I couldn’t write or act to save myself so it’s definitely a good way to spend a 120 minutes thoroughly engaging Doctor versus foe
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Post by ljwilson on Dec 22, 2020 9:33:36 GMT
Well I loved this revisit but it is one I enjoy anyways -I think as when I first listened I did the expected and thought The Great Intelligence.But this is a good story with the usual great soundscaping and with lots for the main cast to engage in. a lot to enjoy ,the cricketing Doctor and the wonderful biographer and Peri gets to use some of her botany expertise and the Doctors preference for bonfires when offered a cigar,liked that.I would recommend it to people and certainly I don’t feel it is as negative story ,Me I couldn’t write or act to save myself so it’s definitely a good way to spend a 120 minutes thoroughly engaging Doctor versus foe My New Years resolution...write a Doctor Who story and email it to BF! I'm going to give it a go, if you dont shoot you dont score and all that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 10:18:58 GMT
Well I loved this revisit but it is one I enjoy anyways -I think as when I first listened I did the expected and thought The Great Intelligence.But this is a good story with the usual great soundscaping and with lots for the main cast to engage in. a lot to enjoy ,the cricketing Doctor and the wonderful biographer and Peri gets to use some of her botany expertise and the Doctors preference for bonfires when offered a cigar,liked that.I would recommend it to people and certainly I don’t feel it is as negative story ,Me I couldn’t write or act to save myself so it’s definitely a good way to spend a 120 minutes thoroughly engaging Doctor versus foe My New Years resolution...write a Doctor Who story and email it to BF! I'm going to give it a go, if you dont shoot you dont score and all that. Go for it...make it your best shot
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 10:32:54 GMT
I found on reflection Sylvester Morands words to Alan Cox of wanting to make his last words something heroic very very touching
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Post by grinch on Dec 22, 2020 17:04:21 GMT
I seem to recall finding this Ok. Although just OK. It certainly has its moments I’ll grant you, but the three main leads are reduced to just their basic character traits (The Fifth Doctor is defined solely by his love of cricket in this as an example) and it’s certainly no At the Mountains of Madness I’ll tell you now.
Would definitely have benefited from another draft or two. Although I must admit I’m not sure how strict HM prisons are when it comes to inmates accessing Microsoft Word.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 17:11:08 GMT
I seem to recall finding this Ok. Although just OK. It certainly has its moments I’ll grant you, but the three main leads are reduced to just their basic character traits (The Fifth Doctor is defined solely by his love of cricket in this as an example) and it’s certainly no At the Mountains of Madness I’ll tell you now. Would definitely have benefited from another draft or two. Although I must admit I’m not sure how strict HM prisons are when it comes to accessing Microsoft Word. Yes I did read his Wikipedia ...oh well.
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Post by Kestrel on Mar 1, 2021 8:12:04 GMT
My slow journey through the Erimem stories continues! This one was pretty good, though overall I'd have to say I've found Erimem's debut story to be her best. Thus far, at least. I know she eventually leaves the TARDIS and I'm very curious how she'll do that, as already she feels like a very natural part of the team next to the Doctor and Peri.
Also, does anyone else call her M&M, or is that just me?
Anyway, I guess this may have been more of an actual thing that might've existed in the past, prior to the advent of mass media and (especially) digital media, but I absolutely love the trip of the exasperated person trying to explain the concept of fiction to someone that just does. not. get. it.
Definitely reminds me (in the very best possible way) of Terry Pratchett's Wyrd Sisters and a particularly hilarious episode of Blackadder where Hugh Laurie's character saw a play for the first time.
And, yikes. Did I just talk myself into watching Blackadder again?
Anyway, this was a fun story overall, but maybe not necessarily for the reasons the writers intended? I dunno about y'all, but I got a real kick out of Peru's postmortem personality. Peri: an annoying nitwit in life; an insufferable ***** in death. Or maybe that was intentional? The "dead" Peri that confronts Erimem is basically a grotesque exaggeration of all of the character's worst qualities. It was cathartic to see, and perhaps cathartic to write, Peri in such a way that her negative qualities are present front-and-fore, without being obfuscated by a narrative that tacitly approves of her.
Or perhaps my own dislike of Peri is affecting my capacity to think clearly here. I dunno. Could go either way TBH.
Also before I forget, I'd like to applaud this story for maintaining some light continuity, even if it doesn't make much sense in-universe: once again, we see Peri teaching Erimem English. And while sure, this is nonsense in the face of the "TARDIS translation circuit" handwave, it does an excellent job of demonstrating Peru's better virtues--as someone eager to help her friends--as well as Erimem's--her desire for knowledge and understanding regardless of any tangible or immediate benefit--as well as providing a largely background-explanation for their deepening friendship.
And last but not least, because I gotta point it out (even if I can't be arsed to spend much time on the subject)... Big Finish' ugly habit of anglocentric-narrative continues: once again we have a story set in Asia where all of the characters are British!
(Aside: is there a better term--a compound word--I could've used there? Something like Britoncenteic? Anglocentric is a bit of an anachronistic term, now that many historians are (rightly) moving away from the old Anglo-Saxon label... but for the life of me I couldn't think of a better word to use to mean "oriented around white British people.")
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