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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 15:38:26 GMT
That'll teach 'em.
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Post by doomlord on Feb 17, 2018 16:03:08 GMT
It's harder to sell DW overseas than it is here in the UK, so naturally any release outside of the UK will need to be marketed differently in a any country that already has its own popular television series competing for shop and online space before any of that foreign muck starts creeping in. DW has been instilled within us for over five decades here, it is part of the UK's consciousness and an institution, so the amazingly put together single DVD releases are easier to sell to we Britons and they're worth every penny and have plenty of life in them yet as new fans are dipping into them in their droves, even outselling the new series releases, which is no surprise to me. It's easier to repackage stuff and introduce an otherwise well-established yet unfamiliar subject as compilation or 'best of' as an incentive to buy. I can't see BBC Worldwide (UK) producing this for our shores for a good few years yet, not while the DVDs are still selling well. I'm glad they've released this bluray as units sold will be a good indicator to see if it sells well, I hope it does so it paves the way for more US releases. I just hope the discs include all the incredible special features that came with the DVD releases. Well if they don't release this over here this year like the American release I shall be seriously considering whether to boycott every future BBC Worldwide DVD/Blu-ray release. If enough people do it, perhaps it will send them a message that the UK fanbase is fed up of being neglected by BBCWW? Well let's be honest, apart from the handful of pretty common choices amongst new-Who fans of first/last book-end adventures, multi-Doctor and a few animated stories, you haven't exactly been scrambling to buy the classics anyway.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 17, 2018 16:07:36 GMT
Well if they don't release this over here this year like the American release I shall be seriously considering whether to boycott every future BBC Worldwide DVD/Blu-ray release. If enough people do it, perhaps it will send them a message that the UK fanbase is fed up of being neglected by BBCWW? Well let's be honest, apart from the handful of pretty common choices amongst new-Who fans of first/last book-end adventures, multi-Doctor and a few animated stories, you haven't exactly been scrambling to buy the classics anyway. Only because I've been waiting for classic series Blu-ray box sets to save on shelf space. BBC Worldwide not releasing the Tom Baker complete Series 12 set here too would be a massive kick in the face to the show's home country.
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Post by sherlock on Feb 17, 2018 16:21:18 GMT
Well let's be honest, apart from the handful of pretty common choices amongst new-Who fans of first/last book-end adventures, multi-Doctor and a few animated stories, you haven't exactly been scrambling to buy the classics anyway. Only because I've been waiting for classic series Blu-ray box sets to save on shelf space. BBC Worldwide not releasing the Tom Baker complete Series 12 set here too would be a massive kick in the face to the show's home country. As I don't collect Blu-Ray this doesn't really matter to me, but might I suggest BBC Worldwide's decision perhaps depends on the market. I'm guessing that internationally it's probably more economical to sell stories boxed together as there's less of a market for classic Who, whereas in the U.K. there's a bigger buyer market for Classic Who stories so they can make more money by selling stories individually. Just a thought perhaps. I'm no expert so could be completely wrong. Whilst I'm here just wondering, what exactly is the difference between a blu-Ray and DVD? Genuinely don't know.
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Post by doomlord on Feb 17, 2018 16:23:44 GMT
Well let's be honest, apart from the handful of pretty common choices amongst new-Who fans of first/last book-end adventures, multi-Doctor and a few animated stories, you haven't exactly been scrambling to buy the classics anyway. Only because I've been waiting for classic series Blu-ray box sets to save on shelf space. BBC Worldwide not releasing the Tom Baker complete Series 12 set here too would be a massive kick in the face to the show's home country. I imagine you started buying those those common choices a few years ago. They're the go-to choices for most new-Who fans but then some stop with that limited selection of titles, but then arrogantly go on to think of themselves as connoisseurs of Classic Who (when in reality they know jack about it) or like to throw in the odd 'Pigbin Josh' quip because only 'serious' Who fans know about him because he's so obscure. Of course unless you knew about this boxed bluray release 5 or 6 years ago, which obviously you didn't, otherwise you wouldn't have any Classic DVD in your possession, that's some great insight into the future you have there. Stopping at those go-to titles because of shelf space sounds a bit lame in my opinion when they hardly take up any shelf space anyway, it makes it sound as though you'll never buy anything again! No more 10th Doctor Volumes for you, steel books no more video game cases, books, no more anything? You didn't seem to worry about shelf space when purchasing the cartoon version of Shada.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2018 16:25:52 GMT
Only because I've been waiting for classic series Blu-ray box sets to save on shelf space. BBC Worldwide not releasing the Tom Baker complete Series 12 set here too would be a massive kick in the face to the show's home country. As I don't collect Blu-Ray this doesn't really matter to me, but might I suggest BBC Worldwide's decision perhaps depends on the market. I'm guessing that internationally it's probably more economical to sell stories boxed together as there's less of a market for classic Who, whereas in the U.K. there's a bigger buyer market for Classic Who stories so they can make more money by selling stories individually. Just a thought perhaps. I'm no expert so could be completely wrong. Whilst I'm here just wondering, what exactly is the difference between a blu-Ray and DVD? Genuinely don't know. Storage space primarily. DVD has almost 5gb whereas Blu-Ray has 25gb.
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Post by chrism1999 on Feb 18, 2018 15:03:00 GMT
It's harder to sell DW overseas than it is here in the UK, so naturally any release outside of the UK will need to be marketed differently in a any country that already has its own popular television series competing for shop and online space before any of that foreign muck starts creeping in. DW has been instilled within us for over five decades here, it is part of the UK's consciousness and an institution, so the amazingly put together single DVD releases are easier to sell to we Britons and they're worth every penny and have plenty of life in them yet as new fans are dipping into them in their droves, even outselling the new series releases, which is no surprise to me. It's easier to repackage stuff and introduce an otherwise well-established yet unfamiliar subject as compilation or 'best of' as an incentive to buy. I can't see BBC Worldwide (UK) producing this for our shores for a good few years yet, not while the DVDs are still selling well. I'm glad they've released this bluray as units sold will be a good indicator to see if it sells well, I hope it does so it paves the way for more US releases. I just hope the discs include all the incredible special features that came with the DVD releases. Well if they don't release this over here this year like the American release I shall be seriously considering whether to boycott every future BBC Worldwide DVD/Blu-ray release. If enough people do it, perhaps it will send them a message that the UK fanbase is fed up of being neglected by BBCWW? BBC Worldwide exists to make money for the BBC to supplement its licence fee income in order to allow it to continue to provide its services. It is not a charity. If they're not releasing the sets (and we don't know that they're not or whether they just haven't announced yet), presumably they believe it's not sufficiently viable for them or worth the effort for the return. If there was a sufficient market, you can bet they'd be on it like a car bonnet.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Feb 18, 2018 23:16:21 GMT
I’m not too bothered. I’ve got all but one of these stories on dvd, and classic stories are harder to come by in the states, so they’re welcome to the Set. We don’t need it.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 18, 2018 23:18:25 GMT
I’m not too bothered. I’ve got all but one of these stories on dvd, and classic stories are harder to come by in the states, so they’re welcome to the Set. We don’t need it. We definitely do need it. The DVDs take up lots of space. Blu-ray sets save space. The BBC Worldwide must hate us for this not to be released over here.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Feb 18, 2018 23:23:55 GMT
I’m not too bothered. I’ve got all but one of these stories on dvd, and classic stories are harder to come by in the states, so they’re welcome to the Set. We don’t need it. We definitely do need it. The DVDs take up lots of space. Blu-ray sets save space. The BBC Worldwide must hate us for this not to be released over here. Who says this isn’t just a one off release? It’ll make minimal difference on the shelf.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 18, 2018 23:24:52 GMT
We definitely do need it. The DVDs take up lots of space. Blu-ray sets save space. The BBC Worldwide must hate us for this not to be released over here. Who says this isn’t just a one off release? It’ll make minimal difference on the shelf. Even if it's a one-off, we need it over here so that masses of the fanbase can buy it and show BBC Worldwide there is a big demand for classic series series box sets on Blu-ray.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 23:25:21 GMT
I’m not too bothered. I’ve got all but one of these stories on dvd, and classic stories are harder to come by in the states, so they’re welcome to the Set. We don’t need it. We definitely do need it. The DVDs take up lots of space. Blu-ray sets save space. The BBC Worldwide must hate us for this not to be released over here. Yes, the Beeb are noted for being anti-British. We should all write to our MPs. Would you even buy it? By your own admission you dont buy the DVDs and for being so prolific here I never see you posting thoughts on BF releases. You'll bitch and moan about releases you don't like the sound of but I don't recall seeing a review of a 4DA or thoughts on this months Short Trip.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 18, 2018 23:31:41 GMT
We definitely do need it. The DVDs take up lots of space. Blu-ray sets save space. The BBC Worldwide must hate us for this not to be released over here. Yes, the Beeb are noted for being anti-British. We should all write to our MPs. I doubt MPs would care about whether classic Doctor Who serials will get a Blu-ray release or not. Would you even buy it? Definitely. I've been waiting for complete series Blu-ray sets for ages as there's too many DVDs to buy for a complete collection, and single DVD releases take up a ridiculous amount of space. for being so prolific here I never see you posting thoughts on BF releases. I do it in the 'What did you listen to today?' thread. I used to write reviews on Big Finish reviews for my blog site but my MA course takes up too much time for that now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 23:38:13 GMT
No, as you say, the BBC obviously hate British people. I think their xenophobia would greatly interest any MP worth their salt and frankly I wouldn't be surprised to see this up there with social housing, the NHS crisis and Brexit in the headlines. We can't have the BBC opening hostilities against the UK by not giving us our Tom Baker bluray.
For God's sake don't tell Trump that the US didn't get Power Of The Daleks or Shada on bluray, he'll want to bomb 2Entertain.
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Post by sherlock on Feb 18, 2018 23:53:00 GMT
Might I direct you to my post above where I suggest an alternate reason to them hating us.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 19, 2018 0:06:18 GMT
For God's sake don't tell Trump that the US didn't get Power Of The Daleks or Shada on bluray, he'll want to bomb 2Entertain. Somebody please make a mock-up screenshot of this!
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Post by omega on Feb 19, 2018 3:07:10 GMT
For God's sake don't tell Trump that the US didn't get Power Of The Daleks or Shada on bluray, he'll want to bomb 2Entertain. Somebody please make a mock-up screenshot of this! That Strangelove homage wouldn't get out of America considering what Trump must weigh. His weapon would be the bigliest.
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Post by doomlord on Feb 19, 2018 16:18:53 GMT
Yes, the Beeb are noted for being anti-British. We should all write to our MPs. I've been waiting for complete series Blu-ray sets for ages as there's too many DVDs to buy for a complete collection, and single DVD releases take up a ridiculous amount of space.Well 19 years on and we're only just coming to the end of the DVD releases. Even 19 years ago, there was no guarantee that BBCW would carry on an complete the collection, in fact there's still no guarantee that we'll ever have a complete collection. Who's to say that they'll complete these by-season sets? What if the plan is to release two sets a year... 13 years? Could they sustain high enough units sold over that period, in the meantime being slowly phased out as new technology advances? How many false starts with boxed sets have we had in the past? Anyone remember the Series 1–4 Boxed Set that was no more of a gimmick, riding on the popularity wave of the recently departed Tenth Doctor and a quickly rushed release to appeal to Tennant fans still hurting from his departure. Did BBCW follow up with it with a Series 5–7 Boxed Set? No they didn't, they went back to the beginning again and released a Series 1–6 Boxed Set. Anyone refusing to buy the subsequent series as individual series sets but still waiting for any follow-ups to those boxed releases from a decade ago are in need of a reality check. As I said earlier, you can't have been waiting long for this blu-ray set as you wouldn't have bought those common choices that new-Who fans seem to gravitate towards and just like many new-Who fans who only want to have to watch a tiny part of its history, typically stop at those go-to choices. They still like to sing from the towers though that they're extremely knowledgeable on the original series, when in fact they really know Sweet Fanny Adams about the show. Let's say these do take 13 years to finally complete their run, what if by that time or even sooner, you're no longer living in the same house, you get married and have your own place? However, I still think your shelf-space excuse for stopping at those common go-to choices is paper-thin and basically, you're just not that into it but like to pretend you are. Just my observation of course, as I've seen it all before.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Feb 19, 2018 17:04:36 GMT
While box sets would be nice, they would have been nice ten years ago. I really don't see the point to putting out Blu-Ray versions of material that as others have pointed out likely won't look all that great as the generation dub won't clean up all that nicely. Personally, I'd much rather see more of the missing episodes animated and released. I'm only missing a handful of the classic series on DVD - I won't waste the money buying a Blu-Ray box set to fill in those gaps.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Feb 19, 2018 17:35:09 GMT
For God's sake don't tell Trump that the US didn't get Power Of The Daleks or Shada on bluray, he'll want to bomb 2Entertain. 2Entertain?! I don't think they've existed in donkey's years. Anyway, Trump has more important things to deal with. (Trump voice): Have you heard about Dapol? It's a disgrace. They released a Davros with two arms. And both arms had a hand. And those hands were tiny. It's fake news. Davros only had one arm. And he only had one hand. I know, because I know him. He's a great guy, a great personal friend, and his hand is big. I know, I've shaken it, it's almost as big as mine. Crooked Dapol.
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