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Post by andrew on Feb 4, 2021 0:02:20 GMT
Yeah, I’ve had the Web of Fear BluRay cancelled too that I’d ordered for someone. Managed to reorder via HMV. My order of the steelbook hasn’t budged yet, though. The money for the 50th Anniversary steelbook was taken on Monday and I’m assuming they’ll fulfil Season 8, otherwise I’d have thought they’d have refunded that first. The Web of Fear doesn’t have a set release date, so perhaps they’re going to fulfil pre-orders within the next month or two and then phase out their stock. It’s a shame, though, as Zoom have been great; cashback, discounts, option to pay via PayPal and usually the Friday or Saturday before release. Agree, Zoom would be a sad loss (if they do go.) Very good service indeed for all the reasons you mentioned. I first started buying from Zoom when they were recommended on here when the series 2 steelbook was announced. Most of my Doctor Who blus have come from them since and plenty more other titles from the frequent excellent sales and Zoom days. By far the best general retailer, in my view. HMV’s online site is buggy and slow, and sales are infrequent or mostly lists of out of stock items. Plus I’d be wary of using them for a pre-order too far in advance, in case they hit financial troubles again. Used to use Zavvi a fair amount but they seem to be more about merchandise than DVDs these days. Soon there’ll be just Amazon left standing, though they too have largely stopped running cd or dvd deals in the way they used to. Or maybe I’ve just got almost everything now. Even Zoom’s sales are pretty much just the same deals or items regularly repeated. Owning films or series is fast becoming a very niche interest.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2021 15:14:53 GMT
I've just pre-ordered Series 24 on Blu Ray. Well of course I have - what do you take me for? A yawny oldster?
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 10, 2021 2:18:21 GMT
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Post by sexbombsimon on Feb 16, 2021 13:48:06 GMT
I noticed that zoom have taken the money for season 8 out of my account. A bit early. But paid for now!
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 16, 2021 14:14:09 GMT
I noticed that zoom have taken the money for season 8 out of my account. A bit early. But paid for now! Status listed as Sent to Warehouse too, which means they should be being dispatched in the next couple of days usually. Looks like this might be out in time for the original 22nd February date after all!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2021 15:29:44 GMT
I noticed that zoom have taken the money for season 8 out of my account. A bit early. But paid for now! Status listed as Sent to Warehouse too, which means they should be being dispatched in the next couple of days usually. Looks like this might be out in time for the original 22nd February date after all! It sounds like it may be more to do with the corporate side meaning today is the last day the current owners are the ones charging the cards - as of tomorrow Zoom is owned by a different company. "The current owner, Universal Columbia Alliance (UCA), has recently sold the website and its new owner, Patriot Media Group, have advised that they are expecting to be online and taking orders from 00.01 on 17 February 2021 onwards. Orders received up until 21.00 on Tuesday, 16 February 2021 will continue to be fulfilled by UCA. Existing pre-orders for Doctor Who: The Collection - Season 8 (Limited Edition Box Set) [Blu-ray] (release date: 8 March 2021) will similarly be fulfilled by UCA." I'm hoping this doesn't impact their excellent pricing, service and early deliveries too much. They've highlighted Season 8 there as if you go on to the site, they've got no pre-orders for anything beyond next week now (including removing Web Of Fear and never listing S24) - so I guess they wanted to pre-empt people worried they wouldn't get their S8 order, given it's sold out already and they took pre-orders on that before the buy out was known.
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 16, 2021 15:32:12 GMT
Status listed as Sent to Warehouse too, which means they should be being dispatched in the next couple of days usually. Looks like this might be out in time for the original 22nd February date after all! It sounds like it may be more to do with the corporate side meaning today is the last day the current owners are the ones charging the cards - as of tomorrow Zoom is owned by a different company. "The current owner, Universal Columbia Alliance (UCA), has recently sold the website and its new owner, Patriot Media Group, have advised that they are expecting to be online and taking orders from 00.01 on 17 February 2021 onwards. Orders received up until 21.00 on Tuesday, 16 February 2021 will continue to be fulfilled by UCA. Existing pre-orders for Doctor Who: The Collection - Season 8 (Limited Edition Box Set) [Blu-ray] (release date: 8 March 2021) will similarly be fulfilled by UCA. "I'm hoping this doesn't impact their excellent pricing, service and early deliveries too much. You’re absolutely right, but given they’ve purposely not put up items for pre-order past the Season 8 set (Doctor Who or otherwise), it might be in their best interests to just get the set dispatched ASAP if they’ve received stock and reduce the UCA involvement sooner rather than later. Depends on the agreements with the different parties, etc. of course.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2021 15:37:52 GMT
It sounds like it may be more to do with the corporate side meaning today is the last day the current owners are the ones charging the cards - as of tomorrow Zoom is owned by a different company. "The current owner, Universal Columbia Alliance (UCA), has recently sold the website and its new owner, Patriot Media Group, have advised that they are expecting to be online and taking orders from 00.01 on 17 February 2021 onwards. Orders received up until 21.00 on Tuesday, 16 February 2021 will continue to be fulfilled by UCA. Existing pre-orders for Doctor Who: The Collection - Season 8 (Limited Edition Box Set) [Blu-ray] (release date: 8 March 2021) will similarly be fulfilled by UCA. "I'm hoping this doesn't impact their excellent pricing, service and early deliveries too much. You’re absolutely right, but given they’ve purposely not put up items for pre-order past the Season 8 set (Doctor Who or otherwise), it might be in their best interests to just get the set dispatched ASAP if they’ve received stock and reduce the UCA involvement sooner rather than later. Depends on the agreements with the different parties, etc. of course. If they've got them, absolutely. I think though there's a good chance we'd be disappointed thinking we're getting it this soon. Hope for the best and all that but I'm not expecting mine to land earlier than everywhere else. I think there's probably just some tedious corporate reason that because the Universal took all the orders and the set is OOP already (which by the by, I hate - there should be enough for people who want to pre-order at least) they're taking ownership of it's distribution rather than just wiping it off the slate a la Web Of Fear which would lead to a deluge of issues for them.
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Post by andrew on Feb 16, 2021 16:26:06 GMT
I’ve received an email from Zoom saying S24 will be dispatched on 5th March, to arrive by 8th March. It then explains that the item might change to show as dispatched but that’s just to “ensure that our systems have your order queued and ready to go on March 5th”.
All seems very helpful, clear and reassuring. They’ve always seemed very good at customer communication and service. If they are continuing under new ownership hopefully that will continue. If the site closes down soon, will be very sorry to see it go.
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 16, 2021 16:42:46 GMT
I’ve received an email from Zoom saying S24 will be dispatched on 5th March, to arrive by 8th March. It then explains that the item might change to show as dispatched but that’s just to “ensure that our systems have your order queued and ready to go on March 5th”. All seems very helpful, clear and reassuring. They’ve always seemed very good at customer communication and service. If they are continuing under new ownership hopefully that will continue. If the site closes down soon, will be very sorry to see it go. Yeah, their general service and communication is brilliant, so I hope that continues too and they go from strength to strength. Looking forward to the set materialising on the 8th then!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 11:50:50 GMT
Zoom have started to add titles to the "new" site (same URL) and it's not looking good. The BFI, Second Sight and Signal One titles they've listed are at higher prices than Amazon or Base. Hopefully they're just adding things at RRP and will sort pricing later but they are taking orders on these higher prices and if it were to continue....the days of Zoom being the cheapest would be long gone. As it is they've not got any BBC stuff up, so no Who. We'll see where things are in time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 11:59:52 GMT
I will miss Zoom i must say, at least it seems they are honouring season 8 hopefully
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Post by number13 on Feb 17, 2021 13:15:29 GMT
You’re absolutely right, but given they’ve purposely not put up items for pre-order past the Season 8 set (Doctor Who or otherwise), it might be in their best interests to just get the set dispatched ASAP if they’ve received stock and reduce the UCA involvement sooner rather than later. Depends on the agreements with the different parties, etc. of course. If they've got them, absolutely. I think though there's a good chance we'd be disappointed thinking we're getting it this soon. Hope for the best and all that but I'm not expecting mine to land earlier than everywhere else. I think there's probably just some tedious corporate reason that because the Universal took all the orders and the set is OOP already (which by the by, I hate - there should be enough for people who want to pre-order at least) they're taking ownership of it's distribution rather than just wiping it off the slate a la Web Of Fear which would lead to a deluge of issues for them. Never underestimate the popularity of the best Doctor ever!
Which in all seriousness I think they have done, twice now. Once was just about understandable, he's not perhaps the 'fashionable' Doctor these days and that might mislead when working out potential sales. But twice seems more than careless. I expected his sets to easily outsell all but Tom's, and Season 8 most of all.
And I'll be sorry to lose Zoom as we've known it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 13:51:01 GMT
If they've got them, absolutely. I think though there's a good chance we'd be disappointed thinking we're getting it this soon. Hope for the best and all that but I'm not expecting mine to land earlier than everywhere else. I think there's probably just some tedious corporate reason that because the Universal took all the orders and the set is OOP already (which by the by, I hate - there should be enough for people who want to pre-order at least) they're taking ownership of it's distribution rather than just wiping it off the slate a la Web Of Fear which would lead to a deluge of issues for them. Never underestimate the popularity of the best Doctor ever!
Which in all seriousness I think they have done, twice now. Once was just about understandable, he's not perhaps the 'fashionable' Doctor these days and that might mislead when working out potential sales. But twice seems more than careless. I expected his sets to easily outsell all but Tom's, and Season 8 most of all.
And I'll be sorry to lose Zoom as we've known it. They've not done Troughton yet and Capaldi will need to wait for the New Series to get this treatment. I don't think it's a case of any Doctor's popularity being estimated at all, which is part of the problem. They're all being treated the same. They re-printed S12 to bring it to parity with the print runs of the other seasons, which suggests that they're a set (unknown) number. That's borne out even just anecdotally by, well, I don't see many people picking and choosing sets - those that are buying them...buy the lot. So to that end their strategy has some logic. Yet there will be SOME just after the most retro of Doctors in Jon and Tom which is why they sell out that bit faster. Though as we know...they all sell out. Even the second least popular season ever according to at least the last 2 lots of mega story polls in DWM, S23, sold out in no time. S24, the only season rated lower, is going to join it soon. If they can sell out in no-time, they all will - I don't think that's a leap. Which shows that while it's smart having limited runs as you encourage pre-orders at full price and don't ever go back to the days of "I'll wait till Amazon sell it for a fiver" as many did with the DVD ranges (killing the initial animated range we had in the early 2010s), it's also a bit too smart. They made the print run so small these aren't even making it past *at best* a week or two on the streets and even then most of them sell out before that. There was clearly scope while the range was young enough to make a few more of a few seasons as they did with S12 and increase the future print run just enough so that anyone who orders before release date gets one. It's money sitting on the table that is literally helping no-one but re-sellers and scalpers. That could all have been in the Beeb's coffers. As it stands at the moment scalpers have a field day and then there's "accidental scalping" (sounds painful) where people are ordering with, say, Zoom, then again with Amazon just in case. So someone else can't buy a copy as one person has reserved two and....yeah - we get the rather painful second hand prices these sets go for on ebay as a result of all of the above. They're not numbered anyway so letting everyone who wants one get one before release would be nice...clearly not happening though. Our Zoom delivery goes missing? Best get ready to pay double on ebay within a week or two of release, because it'll be 5 or 6 times the price a few months after that!
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Post by andrew on Feb 17, 2021 14:14:59 GMT
Zoom have started to add titles to the "new" site (same URL) and it's not looking good. The BFI, Second Sight and Signal One titles they've listed are at higher prices than Amazon or Base. Hopefully they're just adding things at RRP and will sort pricing later but they are taking orders on these higher prices and if it were to continue....the days of Zoom being the cheapest would be long gone. As it is they've not got any BBC stuff up, so no Who. We'll see where things are in time. Hopefully it is just early days of a transition period but so far it is looking like it’s the zoom we knew in name only.
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 17, 2021 17:07:36 GMT
Never underestimate the popularity of the best Doctor ever!
Which in all seriousness I think they have done, twice now. Once was just about understandable, he's not perhaps the 'fashionable' Doctor these days and that might mislead when working out potential sales. But twice seems more than careless. I expected his sets to easily outsell all but Tom's, and Season 8 most of all.
And I'll be sorry to lose Zoom as we've known it. They've not done Troughton yet and Capaldi will need to wait for the New Series to get this treatment. I don't think it's a case of any Doctor's popularity being estimated at all, which is part of the problem. They're all being treated the same. They re-printed S12 to bring it to parity with the print runs of the other seasons, which suggests that they're a set (unknown) number. That's borne out even just anecdotally by, well, I don't see many people picking and choosing sets - those that are buying them...buy the lot. So to that end their strategy has some logic. Yet there will be SOME just after the most retro of Doctors in Jon and Tom which is why they sell out that bit faster. Though as we know...they all sell out. Even the second least popular season ever according to at least the last 2 lots of mega story polls in DWM, S23, sold out in no time. S24, the only season rated lower, is going to join it soon. If they can sell out in no-time, they all will - I don't think that's a leap. Which shows that while it's smart having limited runs as you encourage pre-orders at full price and don't ever go back to the days of "I'll wait till Amazon sell it for a fiver" as many did with the DVD ranges (killing the initial animated range we had in the early 2010s), it's also a bit too smart. They made the print run so small these aren't even making it past *at best* a week or two on the streets and even then most of them sell out before that. There was clearly scope while the range was young enough to make a few more of a few seasons as they did with S12 and increase the future print run just enough so that anyone who orders before release date gets one. It's money sitting on the table that is literally helping no-one but re-sellers and scalpers. That could all have been in the Beeb's coffers. As it stands at the moment scalpers have a field day and then there's "accidental scalping" (sounds painful) where people are ordering with, say, Zoom, then again with Amazon just in case. So someone else can't buy a copy as one person has reserved two and....yeah - we get the rather painful second hand prices these sets go for on ebay as a result of all of the above. They're not numbered anyway so letting everyone who wants one get one before release would be nice...clearly not happening though. Our Zoom delivery goes missing? Best get ready to pay double on ebay within a week or two of release, because it'll be 5 or 6 times the price a few months after that! It is a little bit of swings and roundabouts though, I think. None of these sets have sold out instantly and they're all available for a number of weeks and months in the lead up from announcement to release. There are multiple different payment options across the different retailers, so customers have the option to pay in advance via PayPal or wait to pay until dispatch, which should mean that anyone that wants the set can safely order without an issue. Of course, you do get those that buy additional sets, but since those first few releases, especially Season 12 where fans may not have jumped on board straight away, have they really gone for 5 or 6 times the amount on eBay? Just looking at Season 14 now and very few recently have gone above the mid-£50 mark, which is admittedly £10/£15 over the pre-order price, but well within RRP. Indeed I had a copy of Season 14 that I'd purchased on behalf of an overseas fan that changed their mind and I got just shy of my £40 back after fees, etc. I suppose it is a moot point, as I am more than happy who wants one to get one before release... but I do think that typically happens. And if them being unavailable before or after release ensures they can carry on making more, then I think it's a good compromise. As you say, I don't see many people picking and choosing sets either and that can only be a good thing and I suspect is why they're treat the same.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Feb 20, 2021 20:15:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 3:44:40 GMT
Season 8....sorry, "Jon Pertwee - The Complete Season Two" (the NA numbering convention is never gonna catch on....) is finally up for Region A buyers. You'll be getting it early June, in line with previous 3 months gaps between the UK and US/CA sets. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08SZ8XGMM/?tag=blurayforum-20
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Post by stcoop on Feb 28, 2021 22:52:34 GMT
Just a heads-up; Season 8 is finally available to pre-order from Amazon.co.uk for people outside the UK. I'd imagine it won't be around for long though...
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 28, 2021 22:57:18 GMT
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