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Post by constonks on Feb 13, 2020 4:49:33 GMT
Continuing my journey through the comics. Got Sixie and Frobisher in the "World Shapers". I really liked "Voyager" and adore the art work on Sixie and his companions. There seems to be a consensus on review sites that "World Shapers" is not as good as "Voyager", but I am now to find out. It has Sixie, Frobisher and Peri- how bad can it be? I agree that the earlier Frobisher comics are better than the later ones - but only because the early Frobisher stuff is such a high-point of the series. The Shape Shifter, Voyager, etc. are stories I'll come back to again and again. They're like comfort food to me.
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Post by lidar2 on Feb 13, 2020 9:20:31 GMT
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You don't realise how well you know a Dr Who story until you read the novelisation and find yourself knowing all the lines before you read them
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Post by newt5996 on Feb 18, 2020 16:49:20 GMT
Currently reading Millennium Shock by Justin Richards. I'm only about 30 pages in, but honestly am really enjoying it. It's nice to see something with the Fourth Doctor and Harry and technically it's now a historical as it's doing the Doctor Who does Y2K.
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Post by tuigirl on Feb 19, 2020 21:28:41 GMT
Finished the World Shaper's Comic collection. While it is not as high concept as Voyager was, I found this really enjoyable. They were some quite nice entertaining stories and the artwork is great. And Peri and Frobisher work great together, and Frobisher bounces off wonderfully of the Doctor with his sarcasm. Come to think of it- I really should see if I can get a Frobisher cosplay companion for the convention... since I already have two Peris....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 1:29:00 GMT
Currently reading Millennium Shock by Justin Richards. I'm only about 30 pages in, but honestly am really enjoying it. It's nice to see something with the Fourth Doctor and Harry and technically it's now a historical as it's doing the Doctor Who does Y2K. This has always fascinated me. Retrowave, the idea of a subgenre bound by its time period. It's kind of funny, but a lot of Justin Richards's stories seemed to tap into that 90s zeitgeist like nothing else. Its prequel, System Shock, with its liberal use of CD-ROMs, the fledgeling internet and boardroom conspiracies feels like something quintessentially of the decade. It feels a bit like dusting off an old mid-60s Target novel and reading about radio interference from sunspots. Finished the World Shaper's Comic collection. While it is not as high concept as Voyager was, I found this really enjoyable. They were some quite nice entertaining stories and the artwork is great. And Peri and Frobisher work great together, and Frobisher bounces off wonderfully of the Doctor with his sarcasm. Come to think of it- I really should see if I can get a Frobisher cosplay companion for the convention... since I already have two Peris.... Ahh, but there's the beauty of a shapeshifter. Technically anything can be a Frobisher cosplay. Did you have a favourite set of stories from the collection?
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Post by newt5996 on Feb 20, 2020 3:20:54 GMT
Currently reading Millennium Shock by Justin Richards. I'm only about 30 pages in, but honestly am really enjoying it. It's nice to see something with the Fourth Doctor and Harry and technically it's now a historical as it's doing the Doctor Who does Y2K. This has always fascinated me. Retrowave, the idea of a subgenre bound by its time period. It's kind of funny, but a lot of Justin Richards's stories seemed to tap into that 90s zeitgeist like nothing else. Its prequel, System Shock, with its liberal use of CD-ROMs, the fledgeling internet and boardroom conspiracies feels like something quintessentially of the decade. It feels a bit like dusting off an old mid-60s Target novel and reading about radio interference from sunspots. Finished the World Shaper's Comic collection. While it is not as high concept as Voyager was, I found this really enjoyable. They were some quite nice entertaining stories and the artwork is great. And Peri and Frobisher work great together, and Frobisher bounces off wonderfully of the Doctor with his sarcasm. Come to think of it- I really should see if I can get a Frobisher cosplay companion for the convention... since I already have two Peris.... Ahh, but there's the beauty of a shapeshifter. Technically anything can be a Frobisher cosplay. Did you have a favourite set of stories from the collection? It also genuinely feels like an accurate representation of the Y2K fear the more and more I read, more so than System Shock ever did. System Shock fell flat because it was a VMA that was kind of standard where Millennium Shock is proving to be pretty enjoyable because it is a BBC Book and there isn't that expectation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 5:47:54 GMT
This has always fascinated me. Retrowave, the idea of a subgenre bound by its time period. It's kind of funny, but a lot of Justin Richards's stories seemed to tap into that 90s zeitgeist like nothing else. Its prequel, System Shock, with its liberal use of CD-ROMs, the fledgeling internet and boardroom conspiracies feels like something quintessentially of the decade. It feels a bit like dusting off an old mid-60s Target novel and reading about radio interference from sunspots. Ahh, but there's the beauty of a shapeshifter. Technically anything can be a Frobisher cosplay. Did you have a favourite set of stories from the collection? It also genuinely feels like an accurate representation of the Y2K fear the more and more I read, more so than System Shock ever did. System Shock fell flat because it was a VMA that was kind of standard where Millennium Shock is proving to be pretty enjoyable because it is a BBC Book and there isn't that expectation. I'm genuinely curious, what do you think are some of the key differences between the MAs and PDAs? In terms of their reading experience, I mean.
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Post by tuigirl on Feb 20, 2020 9:01:19 GMT
Currently reading Millennium Shock by Justin Richards. I'm only about 30 pages in, but honestly am really enjoying it. It's nice to see something with the Fourth Doctor and Harry and technically it's now a historical as it's doing the Doctor Who does Y2K. This has always fascinated me. Retrowave, the idea of a subgenre bound by its time period. It's kind of funny, but a lot of Justin Richards's stories seemed to tap into that 90s zeitgeist like nothing else. Its prequel, System Shock, with its liberal use of CD-ROMs, the fledgeling internet and boardroom conspiracies feels like something quintessentially of the decade. It feels a bit like dusting off an old mid-60s Target novel and reading about radio interference from sunspots. Finished the World Shaper's Comic collection. While it is not as high concept as Voyager was, I found this really enjoyable. They were some quite nice entertaining stories and the artwork is great. And Peri and Frobisher work great together, and Frobisher bounces off wonderfully of the Doctor with his sarcasm. Come to think of it- I really should see if I can get a Frobisher cosplay companion for the convention... since I already have two Peris.... Ahh, but there's the beauty of a shapeshifter. Technically anything can be a Frobisher cosplay. Did you have a favourite set of stories from the collection? Profits of Doom- because it has the best artwork. And the Gift because it has a hilarious quite clever plot. And we see the Doctor and crew dance and party, gumshoe Frobisher is wielding an old machine pistol and the Doctor is airing out his old Apollo space suit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2020 11:31:37 GMT
This has always fascinated me. Retrowave, the idea of a subgenre bound by its time period. It's kind of funny, but a lot of Justin Richards's stories seemed to tap into that 90s zeitgeist like nothing else. Its prequel, System Shock, with its liberal use of CD-ROMs, the fledgeling internet and boardroom conspiracies feels like something quintessentially of the decade. It feels a bit like dusting off an old mid-60s Target novel and reading about radio interference from sunspots. Ahh, but there's the beauty of a shapeshifter. Technically anything can be a Frobisher cosplay. Did you have a favourite set of stories from the collection? Profits of Doom- because it has the best artwork. And the Gift because it has a hilarious quite clever plot. And we see the Doctor and crew dance and party, gumshoe Frobisher is wielding an old machine pistol and the Doctor is airing out his old Apollo space suit. Snap! Same. There's a great sense of banter to them both in such a small span of time ("He didn't say it'd hurt!" ++I didn't say that it wouldn't.++). Doesn't The Gift just cry out for an audio adaptation with all its music and bombast? The kind of sound you could pull from that story, it kind of feels like an old-fashioned 1950s Raygun Gothic tale. In the vein of Flash Gordon or Dan Dare. Sleek, silver spaceships with glowing coils. It feels like they're having so much fun with it.
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Post by shutupbanks on Feb 20, 2020 15:23:28 GMT
Profits of Doom- because it has the best artwork. And the Gift because it has a hilarious quite clever plot. And we see the Doctor and crew dance and party, gumshoe Frobisher is wielding an old machine pistol and the Doctor is airing out his old Apollo space suit. Snap! Same. There's a great sense of banter to them both in such a small span of time ("He didn't say it'd hurt!" ++I didn't say that it wouldn't.++). Doesn't The Gift just cry out for an audio adaptation with all its music and bombast? The kind of sound you could pull from that story, it kind of feels like an old-fashioned 1950s Raygun Gothic tale. In the vein of Flash Gordon or Dan Dare. Sleek, silver spaceships with glowing coils. It feels like they're having so much fun with it. The entirety of the Baker run of comics is a joy. I think because they had so little to compete with on the telly run (2 seasons in 3 years) meant they had a little more scope for letting their hair down.
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Post by newt5996 on Feb 20, 2020 16:31:40 GMT
It also genuinely feels like an accurate representation of the Y2K fear the more and more I read, more so than System Shock ever did. System Shock fell flat because it was a VMA that was kind of standard where Millennium Shock is proving to be pretty enjoyable because it is a BBC Book and there isn't that expectation. I'm genuinely curious, what do you think are some of the key differences between the MAs and PDAs? In terms of their reading experience, I mean. The majority of MAs I've always noticed are done in the VNA style of doing stories too large and deep for the small screen even though they are "filling in" missing gaps in earlier Doctors which is why Richards standard System Shock kind of doesn't fit while the PDAs (at least most of the ones I've read so far) are still in the very much BBC Books style of continuing the legacy of Doctor Who while leaving the EDAs to make big changes and plot advancements.
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Post by tuigirl on Feb 20, 2020 20:42:05 GMT
Profits of Doom- because it has the best artwork. And the Gift because it has a hilarious quite clever plot. And we see the Doctor and crew dance and party, gumshoe Frobisher is wielding an old machine pistol and the Doctor is airing out his old Apollo space suit. Snap! Same. There's a great sense of banter to them both in such a small span of time ("He didn't say it'd hurt!" ++I didn't say that it wouldn't.++). Doesn't The Gift just cry out for an audio adaptation with all its music and bombast? The kind of sound you could pull from that story, it kind of feels like an old-fashioned 1950s Raygun Gothic tale. In the vein of Flash Gordon or Dan Dare. Sleek, silver spaceships with glowing coils. It feels like they're having so much fun with it. Oh god. You are soooo right. It would be the most fun audio EVER. They just HAVE to do it for the next comic adaptations. Just imagine what Colin and Nicola could do with the material. And it would be another fun outing for Frobisher. All hail the big talking bird!
We should start a petition to Big Finish.
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Post by tuigirl on Feb 20, 2020 20:45:51 GMT
Snap! Same. There's a great sense of banter to them both in such a small span of time ("He didn't say it'd hurt!" ++I didn't say that it wouldn't.++). Doesn't The Gift just cry out for an audio adaptation with all its music and bombast? The kind of sound you could pull from that story, it kind of feels like an old-fashioned 1950s Raygun Gothic tale. In the vein of Flash Gordon or Dan Dare. Sleek, silver spaceships with glowing coils. It feels like they're having so much fun with it. The entirety of the Baker run of comics is a joy. I think because they had so little to compete with on the telly run (2 seasons in 3 years) meant they had a little more scope for letting their hair down. Agreed. While they are not my favorite Who comics (that place is kept by the 8th Doctor and Destrii stories as well as the Titan 11th Doctor second year), they are on average better than most of the others.
I am really glad I have discovered them and actually made myself look into them since I refused for years to check it out since I thought they would be not very good. Sometimes it is great to be proven wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2020 14:03:46 GMT
Snap! Same. There's a great sense of banter to them both in such a small span of time ("He didn't say it'd hurt!" ++I didn't say that it wouldn't.++). Doesn't The Gift just cry out for an audio adaptation with all its music and bombast? The kind of sound you could pull from that story, it kind of feels like an old-fashioned 1950s Raygun Gothic tale. In the vein of Flash Gordon or Dan Dare. Sleek, silver spaceships with glowing coils. It feels like they're having so much fun with it. The entirety of the Baker run of comics is a joy. I think because they had so little to compete with on the telly run (2 seasons in 3 years) meant they had a little more scope for letting their hair down. That's the pleasure of it. During all that time, there were only three elements from the television series that turned up in full for the comics -- the Time Lords (albeit in unusual circumstances), the Cybermen and one Draconian. The rest of it was wholly original, riffing on ideas that wouldn't have been out-of-place in Robin of Sherwood, Jeremy Brett's Sherlock Holmes, Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers, et al. They were determined to give the Sixth Doctor as much diversity as they could muster. Plus, Parkhouse managed to do something rather clever with Time Lord mythology. From what might've been a single line in The Invasion of Time ("Rassilon's mind lives within the Matrix."), he spun up the Matrix Lords and the High Evolutionaries with their cosmic war for the Fifth Doctor. Beating out his appearance in The Five Doctors by about a year, I think. And tapping into the same vein as The Five Doctors, comes this richly implied tapestry for the Sixth Doctor of Old Gallifrey in Astrolabus and his escape from the Lord of Life. So much of their ancient Time Lord history sprouted from Voyager, I think. A lot more than the story itself lets on.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 19, 2020 0:03:30 GMT
This seemed the most appropriate thread for this-
Lance Parkin has made a PDF version of The Dying Days available for 24 hours (well, 20 now). So if anyone wanted to read it without paying a small fortune, this is probably your best chance.
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Post by number13 on Mar 19, 2020 0:53:05 GMT
This seemed the most appropriate thread for this- Lance Parkin has made a PDF version of The Dying Days available for 24 hours (well, 20 now). So if anyone wanted to read it without paying a small fortune, this is probably your best chance. What a kind gesture, at any time but especially at this time.
(Thanks also sherlock for posting it on here. Maybe post it on the 'Made My Day' thread too so people don't miss out?)
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Post by newt5996 on Mar 19, 2020 4:08:15 GMT
Currently in the middle of Autumn Mist by David A. McIntee which people seem to not like. So of course, I'm in the camp of people who think it's underrated. Like it isn't great or groundbreaking, but it's very much the calm between the two powerhouse novels that it's surrounded by.
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Post by aztec on Mar 19, 2020 9:05:02 GMT
This seemed the most appropriate thread for this- Lance Parkin has made a PDF version of The Dying Days available for 24 hours (well, 20 now). So if anyone wanted to read it without paying a small fortune, this is probably your best chance. What a kind gesture, at any time but especially at this time.
(Thanks also sherlock for posting it on here. Maybe post it on the 'Made My Day' thread too so people don't miss out?) Well, this certainly made my day! wanted to read this for many years, such a kind gesture by Mr Parkin
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Mar 19, 2020 13:29:07 GMT
Just waiting for Platt to do it with Lungbarrow
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Post by constonks on Mar 19, 2020 18:08:00 GMT
Just waiting for Platt to do it with Lungbarrow Both Lungbarrow and The Dying Days were released as free PDFs on the BBC website back around 2003* so the files are out there... *You may have seen Lungbarrow's ebook cover three posts above, as the avatar of our own newt5996...
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