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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2020 13:56:29 GMT
Doctor Who and the Sea-Devils.
Startlingly cinematic. From the crackling glow of doomed life rafts to the damp, lichen-hugged château housing a reformed(?) Master. It has a nice texture, taking one of Malcolm Hulke's most refined six-parters and smoothing it down even further, without losing any of its bite.
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Post by timegirl on May 24, 2020 14:50:24 GMT
Just finished the Target Storybook, I enjoyed every story but a few standouts are:
Journey out of Terror Interesting exploration of fiction melding with reality with a memorably melancholy and slightly creepy ending.
Save Yourself An intense look at the period where 2 was forced to work with the Timelords.
The Clean Air Act I like the framing device in this a lot!
Punting For giving 4 more to do during the Five Doctors!
The Dark River Very reminiscent of Huckleberry Finn with a very different Timelord.
Interstellar Insecurity Love everything about this! Can Colin please write more Doctor Who?
Grounded It was lovely to see more of Clive and his family!
Citation Needed Fascinating look at technology gaining sentience with a very Douglas Adams take!
Pain Management Darkly comedic story with my favorite Doctor and Master, 12 and Missy that had me laughing so hard I was crying!
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Post by constonks on May 24, 2020 20:41:00 GMT
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Post by newt5996 on May 25, 2020 5:06:07 GMT
Reading Falls the Shadow aka 356 pages of insanity. I’m about 90 pages in and loving the way it moves along. The setting and characters are basically the characters from Ghost Light turned up to 11 which is great. I also love that it gives the Doctor, Ace, and Benny each something to do justifying its length. O’Mahony’s prose is almost lyrical as well making the torture and darker elements incredibly easy to read.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on May 27, 2020 1:01:33 GMT
Last night my wife read the 13th Doctor Mr Men children's book for our son as his bedtime story. 1/2 way through he stopped her, put his hand on the book and said "Why is he not wearing his scarf? Is his neck sore?" OMG..
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Post by newt5996 on May 27, 2020 3:54:16 GMT
Continuing my unintentional reading of Doctor Who books with Shadow in the title, Shadowmind, which is painfully average and should be finished soon, and then The Shadow of Weng-Chiang
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Post by constonks on May 27, 2020 4:05:31 GMT
Continuing my unintentional reading of Doctor Who books with Shadow in the title, Shadowmind, which is painfully average and should be finished soon, and then The Shadow of Weng-Chiang Woah! The Shadow gimmick is going to be one of my marathons eventually... but I need to reach The Shadows of Avalon and Falls the Shadow in their respective series first (then I'll read 'em with Weng-Chiang and The Shadow in the Glass). But that won't be for quite a while now as I'm at Demontage for 8 and Tragedy Day for 7.
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Post by newt5996 on May 27, 2020 4:54:15 GMT
Continuing my unintentional reading of Doctor Who books with Shadow in the title, Shadowmind, which is painfully average and should be finished soon, and then The Shadow of Weng-Chiang Woah! The Shadow gimmick is going to be one of my marathons eventually... but I need to reach The Shadows of Avalon and Falls the Shadow in their respective series first (then I'll read 'em with Weng-Chiang and The Shadow in the Glass). But that won't be for quite a while now as I'm at Demontage for 8 and Tragedy Day for 7. It’s not even intentional, a friend told me I needed to reread Falls the Shadow and Shadow of Weng-Chiang and Shadowmind is the next script I’m working on (hopefully to be cut down because oh how bland it is)
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Post by constonks on May 27, 2020 5:02:02 GMT
Woah! The Shadow gimmick is going to be one of my marathons eventually... but I need to reach The Shadows of Avalon and Falls the Shadow in their respective series first (then I'll read 'em with Weng-Chiang and The Shadow in the Glass). But that won't be for quite a while now as I'm at Demontage for 8 and Tragedy Day for 7. It’s not even intentional, a friend told me I needed to reread Falls the Shadow and Shadow of Weng-Chiang and Shadowmind is the next script I’m working on (hopefully to be cut down because oh how bland it is) For what it's worth, I actually think Shadowmind would probably be better as an hour of audio! Just trim it to the bone and speed right through it and you could probably have something good there.
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Post by constonks on May 27, 2020 23:38:28 GMT
We determined that comics counted in this thread, right? Sure, whatever.
Anyway.
After watching the TV Movie, I felt like I had to re-read the reunion/sequel comic The Fallen. Does some interesting stuff with all the hints that the Doctor gave Grace. If Big Finish ever gets the rights to the TVM characters, they should adapt that arc! (Vol. 1 - The Fallen & The Road to Hell, Vol. 2 - The Company of Thieves & The Glorious Dead)
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Post by constonks on Jun 8, 2020 2:30:24 GMT
I read Doctor Who and the Loch Ness Monster over the last couple of days. What a quick book - the Loch Ness Monster reaches the Thames with only eight pages to spare! Also, because I read Sea-Devils recently, and finished Last of the Gaderene* the other day, I could not stop reading the Doctor as Jon Pertwee. I think Terrance wrote the Doctor a little more Third-ish (he calls the Brig "old chap", for instance) - but it's also a reminder of how much Tom Baker brings to his performance!
*Gaderene, by the way, is such an era-accurate Pertwee story that it even starts a little too slowly - but that's probably the closest thing I found to a flaw. Definitely worth a read if you're a fan of the UNIT years!
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Post by newt5996 on Jun 8, 2020 2:42:41 GMT
It’s not even intentional, a friend told me I needed to reread Falls the Shadow and Shadow of Weng-Chiang and Shadowmind is the next script I’m working on (hopefully to be cut down because oh how bland it is) For what it's worth, I actually think Shadowmind would probably be better as an hour of audio! Just trim it to the bone and speed right through it and you could probably have something good there. I can tell you I've got the first forty pages of the book down to less than ten pages of script. You know there are like sixty named characters in that book?
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Post by constonks on Jun 8, 2020 4:49:29 GMT
For what it's worth, I actually think Shadowmind would probably be better as an hour of audio! Just trim it to the bone and speed right through it and you could probably have something good there. I can tell you I've got the first forty pages of the book down to less than ten pages of script. You know there are like sixty named characters in that book? I read Shadowmind in November and can recall... - The Doctor - Ace - Benny - good hivemind aliens - bad hivemind aliens - squirrel thing from the first chapter who I think was one of the hivemind aliens - there might have been a cliche military guy - and a good military lady - oh and the sketchy guy who had an alien burst out of his chest at the beginning So... there's some cool ideas but I don't think any of the characters stand out enough that you can't just combine and conflate willy-nilly - heck, look at the Nightshade adaptation, that's a book full of rich memorable characters and BF cut a bunch of them!
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Post by newt5996 on Jun 8, 2020 4:56:12 GMT
I can tell you I've got the first forty pages of the book down to less than ten pages of script. You know there are like sixty named characters in that book? I read Shadowmind in November and can recall... - The Doctor - Ace - Benny - good hivemind aliens - bad hivemind aliens - squirrel thing from the first chapter who I think was one of the hivemind aliens - there might have been a cliche military guy - and a good military lady - oh and the sketchy guy who had an alien burst out of his chest at the beginning So... there's some cool ideas but I don't think any of the characters stand out enough that you can't just combine and conflate willy-nilly - heck, look at the Nightshade adaptation, that's a book full of rich memorable characters and BF cut a bunch of them! Yeah, I've basically written several notes of this character only gets this one scene so they're not important. Like Christopher Bulis is like here's a new character every few pages and I hate it. You know what type of story you're getting into when you start with Chapter 2 and then jump to Chapter 5.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 6:21:27 GMT
I read Shadowmind in November and can recall... - The Doctor - Ace - Benny - good hivemind aliens - bad hivemind aliens - squirrel thing from the first chapter who I think was one of the hivemind aliens - there might have been a cliche military guy - and a good military lady - oh and the sketchy guy who had an alien burst out of his chest at the beginning So... there's some cool ideas but I don't think any of the characters stand out enough that you can't just combine and conflate willy-nilly - heck, look at the Nightshade adaptation, that's a book full of rich memorable characters and BF cut a bunch of them! Yeah, I've basically written several notes of this character only gets this one scene so they're not important. Like Christopher Bulis is like here's a new character every few pages and I hate it. You know what type of story you're getting into when you start with Chapter 2 and then jump to Chapter 5. As a result, compared to other stories you've done, has the adaptation process for Shadowmind been easier or harder?
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Post by newt5996 on Jun 8, 2020 15:23:12 GMT
Yeah, I've basically written several notes of this character only gets this one scene so they're not important. Like Christopher Bulis is like here's a new character every few pages and I hate it. You know what type of story you're getting into when you start with Chapter 2 and then jump to Chapter 5. As a result, compared to other stories you've done, has the adaptation process for Shadowmind been easier or harder? Harder. It isn’t like The Pit which I could cut out a whole subplot or two . It’s hard to know which characters to keep and which to cut.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2020 10:22:51 GMT
As a result, compared to other stories you've done, has the adaptation process for Shadowmind been easier or harder? Harder. It isn’t like The Pit which I could cut out a whole subplot or two . It’s hard to know which characters to keep and which to cut. I can definitely see that. Out of further curiosity, what do you tend to look for when combining composite characters? What are some common links?
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Post by newt5996 on Jun 9, 2020 13:38:31 GMT
Harder. It isn’t like The Pit which I could cut out a whole subplot or two . It’s hard to know which characters to keep and which to cut. I can definitely see that. Out of further curiosity, what do you tend to look for when combining composite characters? What are some common links? Generally, it’s what purpose they serve. If they serve the same purpose they can be combined.
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Post by constonks on Jun 12, 2020 22:27:08 GMT
Today, Titan Comics - The Eighth Doctor: A Matter of Life and Death! I feel like I just raced through those comics as quickly as possible - but I did like them! I think they'd be good for adapting on audio, half an hour per story, five episodes total (or six if you want to split the final part into two, which I think is the one that could benefit from expansion the most). There is one thing I thought would stand in the way of adapting it, but it turns out not to be a problem... Clara and the Twelfth Doctor appear in the last two comics - but they only have a few lines and they can be cut without issue. The Doctor never meets them, anyway, and Josie explains their involvement, saying the Doctor she met first was Scottish, eyebrows, Roman-looking, travelling with someone called Clara...
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Post by timegirl on Jun 12, 2020 22:33:50 GMT
Today, Titan Comics - The Eighth Doctor: A Matter of Life and Death! I feel like I just raced through those comics as quickly as possible - but I did like them! I think they'd be good for adapting on audio, half an hour per story, five episodes total (or six if you want to split the final part into two, which I think is the one that could benefit from expansion the most). There is one thing I thought would stand in the way of adapting it, but it turns out not to be a problem... Clara and the Twelfth Doctor appear in the last two comics - but they only have a few lines and they can be cut without issue. The Doctor never meets them, anyway, and Josie explains their involvement, saying the Doctor she met first was Scottish, eyebrows, Roman-looking, travelling with someone called Clara... They still could with that intact, if they get their actors eventually 😉
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