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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 12, 2015 20:24:31 GMT
the motion picture uniforms made it look like they worked in a dentist's office i think they need to do a series about character fresh out of the academy on their first posting all ensigns. TNG did an episode like that, and there was a DS9 episode where Jake and Nog ended up on a ship crewed entirely by cadets.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2015 6:46:43 GMT
the motion picture uniforms made it look like they worked in a dentist's office i think they need to do a series about character fresh out of the academy on their first posting all ensigns. TNG did an episode like that, and there was a DS9 episode where Jake and Nog ended up on a ship crewed entirely by cadets. The ship crewed by inexperienced people always really annoys me. Cadets and new academy graduates would surely be spread out among the fleet, with every ship having a few among a larger number of experienced personnel. I hated the way the JJ movies put a young idiot in charge of one of the most expensive vessels in the fleet. It takes me out of the story because it just isn't realistic, and in science fiction it's important your people are realistic because nothing else is and people need something to believe in.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 13, 2015 15:00:42 GMT
TNG did an episode like that, and there was a DS9 episode where Jake and Nog ended up on a ship crewed entirely by cadets. The ship crewed by inexperienced people always really annoys me. Cadets and new academy graduates would surely be spread out among the fleet, with every ship having a few among a larger number of experienced personnel. I hated the way the JJ movies put a young idiot in charge of one of the most expensive vessels in the fleet. It takes me out of the story because it just isn't realistic, and in science fiction it's important your people are realistic because nothing else is and people need something to believe in. Well, in the DS9 episode, it was an elite group of cadets on a sort of training vessel that went on real missions. The adults all died, and the dumb-ass cadets decided to continue their mission instead of going home. In the end, the ship was destroyed and most of the cadets died because the young idiot in charge refused to listen to the advice of people who told him how dangerous the mission was. Basically, it was a more realistic version of Trek XI.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 20:41:19 GMT
It was announced today that the showrunner for the new Trek series will be......Bryan Fuller.
Now - this is VERY exciting to me. His work on Hannibal was some of the most visceral, baroque pieces produced by American tv. Stunning. Pushing Daisies and Dead Like Me were also wonderful shows. He was also involved in DS9 and Voyager as a relativel rookie so he knows the show's past.
We also learned, definitively "The creative plan is for the series to introduce new characters and civilizations, existing outside of the mythology charted by previous series and the current movie franchises." That, to me, is very good news. No continuity to clog up just a pure concept and free reign...could be something very special.
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Post by The Matt on Feb 9, 2016 22:38:04 GMT
The only thing that worries me about this is that all the non-Star Trek shows he was involved in got cancelled fairly early.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 22:43:57 GMT
Daisies and Dead weren't big franchise shows. Getting two really offbeat and original shows like those to two full seasons and a TV movie is pretty impressive. And Hannibal got 3 seasons. With his talent and the Trek name? I wouldn't worry about the fact he's never had a series go for, say, 7 seasons. None of hi earlier shows were anywhere near as mainstream oriented.
I'm looking forward to the show a lot more than I am Star Trek Beyond.
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Post by kurumais on Feb 10, 2016 3:30:15 GMT
this cbs access online thing
i am not paying for another online service i have netflix i have amazon prime because i do most of my shopping there thats it for me
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 10, 2016 4:23:18 GMT
I agree, the failure of his past shows have little to do with the quirky nature and intelligence of the shows themselves but more to do with trying to sell the American public on shows that are quirky & intelligent can sometimes be a tough nut to crack. I'm sure CBS is going to give him all the tools to market the hell out of it. I'm sure CBS will offer up the pilot for free, so I guess my choice will be how badly do I need weekly Trek or can it wait so I splurge for a month and binge it all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 4:30:26 GMT
It's excellent to see that they're pushing forwards rather than looking backwards. Given Trek has always been a reflection of what's going on in the world at the moment, it'll be interesting to see whether it goes the realistic (some might say pessimistic) route that DS9 and a chunk of Enterprise took or the more optimistic romanticism of TOS and TNG.
Given the saturation of popular modern series with ongoing myth arcs (even old series from the nineties like Babylon 5 and The X-Files are making something of a comeback because of that formatting choice), I think it's highly likely that this new series will have some kind of ongoing story arc; particularly with the pay-on-demand instant access in place for distribution.
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Post by The Matt on Feb 10, 2016 6:02:23 GMT
I'm very excited about the new show but nervous as well. I worry if it's a flop then that'll be it for TV Trek for good. Fingers red crossed this show rocks
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 12, 2016 5:15:12 GMT
Looking at his Star Trek credits, most of the episodes he was involved with were pretty good. Voyager is my least favorite Trek series (and one of my favorite TV shows), but his credits include some of my favorite episodes of that series. Also, the one where angry old Kes tries to destroy Vorager, but nobody's perfect.
When they talk about doing stuff outside of mythology, I wonder if they mean that they will be doing another timeline/universe/reboot, or if they just mean that it will spend more time creating new stuff and expanding the Trek universe than worrying about continuity. I hope its the latter, because that is really the direction Star Trek needs to go in. I do hope that they occassionally bring back some of the best stuff from the past though, like the Borg.
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Post by The Matt on Feb 24, 2016 7:40:47 GMT
Apparently Tony Todd is on a very short casting list for the new series. No news as to what role though. I think he's a good actor but maybe a tad over used in the Trek universe.
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 24, 2016 16:13:37 GMT
Apparently Tony Todd is on a very short casting list for the new series. No news as to what role though. I think he's a good actor but maybe a tad over used in the Trek universe. He's only had three roles, and he was unrecognizable in two of them. Maybe Jeffrey Combs can be the captain.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 2:21:55 GMT
As a crew member? Sure, but there's no way Tony Todd is your leading character i.e. the captain. We're going to get someone who is widely known to US tv viewers maybe even a film actor taking a tv gig. This show is streaming so it needs to be a cast and a concept that gets people paying to stream. Tony Todd is a cult legend, no arguments, but he's not box office.
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 25, 2016 3:36:59 GMT
Maybe Michael Dorn actually convinced them to make his Worf series, and Todd is coming back as Kurn.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 11:55:50 GMT
Maybe Michael Dorn actually convinced them to make his Worf series, and Todd is coming back as Kurn. The way he pitched it sounded like fun. If it is his series, it'd be cool to see where it goes.
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 25, 2016 13:31:50 GMT
Maybe Michael Dorn actually convinced them to make his Worf series, and Todd is coming back as Kurn. The way he pitched it sounded like fun. If it is his series, it'd be cool to see where it goes. It would be awesome to see more Worf, but I would be shocked if it turned out that this is his series.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 22:57:07 GMT
The way he pitched it sounded like fun. If it is his series, it'd be cool to see where it goes. It would be awesome to see more Worf, but I would be shocked if it turned out that this is his series. Sadly I must agree. It would be more likely to be found as a fan series like Axanar (may they continue to struggle onwards), Renegades or Continues.
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 26, 2016 1:12:45 GMT
It would be awesome to see more Worf, but I would be shocked if it turned out that this is his series. Sadly I must agree. It would be more likely to be found as a fan series like Axanar (may they continue to struggle onwards), Renegades or Continues. Well, depending on the era/timeline the new show is set in, maybe Worf can guest star at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 1:23:39 GMT
Sadly I must agree. It would be more likely to be found as a fan series like Axanar (may they continue to struggle onwards), Renegades or Continues. Well, depending on the era/timeline the new show is set in, maybe Worf can guest star at some point. Truth be told as much as I like the character (his DS9 kickass persona in particular), I'd like them to steer clear from having any familiar faces return. I'd be perfectly happy having Dorn return to direct an episode, he does a damn good job when they use him.
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