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Post by glutamodo on Jun 7, 2019 15:45:26 GMT
Seriously, recast The Man Avon??
Hah, well I've been told I have a rather decent talent at vocals, but I don't see it myself, I'm nothing like Culshaw.
Okay, if someone could nail it totally, I would not be against them playing Avon. It won't be me though.
And otherwise I'm totally fine with others doing the "Chronicles" thing to advance the story.
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Post by Ian McArdell on Jun 7, 2019 15:45:30 GMT
So, Avon will be absent from the conclusion of this latest series, but they're continuing with a revised version. I can't think of a more agreeable way of doing things. And after that, I'm guessing a return to Liberator Chronicles narrations.
Yes thanks for posting Paz, that does indeed sound like a good way forward... as for the future, I'm not sure what B7 will be without the presence of Paul Darrow. Chronicles, as you say.
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Post by lidar2 on Jun 7, 2019 21:01:43 GMT
Thanks paz for linking the update. I had wondered but thought asking about it was maybe a bit "indelicate' I had thought exactly the same. I checked earlier today and when I saw they were still taking orders for Restoration 2 & 3 I assumed that they had got Darrow's contribution in the can.
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Post by lidar2 on Jun 7, 2019 21:22:58 GMT
So, Avon will be absent from the conclusion of this latest series, but they're continuing with a revised version. I can't think of a more agreeable way of doing things. And after that, I'm guessing a return to Liberator Chronicles narrations.
I imagine that they will be doing something similar to what the Star Wars IX producers are doing to get Leia in the new film and we will get a few cameo lines from Avon in Restoration 3, made up of lines from other audios cut and pasted in. That approach worked well enough for Jago & Litefoot Forever and, assuming they get the necessary permissions from Darrow's estate, should work well enough for Restoration 3 as well.
As for what happens after Restoration 3, I can't see them doing full cast without Avon, so I guess it will be back to the Cbronicles format with the remaining original cast members.
The only other possibility I can see for full cast is spin-offs featuring individual cast members. For instance:
Tarrant - The Early Years could be a boxset featuring a pre-Aftermath Tarrant. Episode 1 could feature his early days on the President's staff with Hygh Fraser, episode 2 could see Tarrant's defection from the Federation and could perhaps feature Travis I or a (recast) Jarvik, episode could be Tarrant's first encounter with Bayban the Butcher and episode 4 could see Tarrant encountering Travis II as a fugitive.
Jenna's post Star One story. We know the beginning and end of the story from LC 6.2 Jenna's Story and in the first episode or 2 of any new spin off would probably have to re-tread some of the ground already covered in the LC, but there's a lot of potential for stories in between that could be done.
Possibly a spin-off with entirely new characters, such as a Sopranos style series about the Cosa Nostra, but although I'd buy it there probably wouldn't be a big enough market for it
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Post by The Matt on Jun 8, 2019 11:24:00 GMT
I think now that Paul has passed, and it being disrespectful to recast so ridiculously soon after his death, that I can't see myself continuing on with B7 releases as Avon was the series for me. I could never really get into the chronicles.
Michael Keating and Vila came a very close second in the series for me so a 4 part box set focusing on him might interest me but other than that......
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Post by glutamodo on Jun 8, 2019 11:38:03 GMT
Avon and Vila were a great one-two act. Blake... well, he factored in differently, and then he was gone.
Me, I'm still all for whatever B7 that Big Finish produces. Avon though was the King of Snark and I will miss him. (speaking of snark, too bad Avon never got to meet up with Tegan... )
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Post by Digi on Jun 8, 2019 14:41:59 GMT
I think now that Paul has passed, and it being disrespectful to recast so ridiculously soon after his death, that I can't see myself continuing on with B7 releases as Avon was the series for me. I could never really get into the chronicles. Michael Keating and Vila came a very close second in the series for me so a 4 part box set focusing on him might interest me but other than that...... While unfortunate, I don't think there's anything to be ashamed of about that. We all come to these stories for our own reasons, and if for you the spark is gone, it's gone. All there is to it.
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Post by nottenst on Jun 17, 2019 15:48:16 GMT
I've listened to "Damage Control", "Hunted", and "Figurehead" so far. Maybe it is addressed in the behind the scenes material or in "Abandon Ship", but Zeera Vos' status from story to story seemed a bit puzzling. A line mentioning how she managed to get from one situation to the next would have been appreciated.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jun 18, 2019 9:01:18 GMT
I've listened to "Damage Control", "Hunted", and "Figurehead" so far. Maybe it is addressed in the behind the scenes material or in "Abandon Ship", but Zeera Vos' status from story to story seemed a bit puzzling. A line mentioning how she managed to get from one situation to the next would have been appreciated. That’s just following in the tradition of the original series where Servalan and Travis would just turn up as the villains of the piece without an explanation of how they got out of their last predicament.
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Post by nottenst on Jun 18, 2019 13:39:45 GMT
I've listened to "Damage Control", "Hunted", and "Figurehead" so far. Maybe it is addressed in the behind the scenes material or in "Abandon Ship", but Zeera Vos' status from story to story seemed a bit puzzling. A line mentioning how she managed to get from one situation to the next would have been appreciated. That’s just following in the tradition of the original series where Servalan and Travis would just turn up as the villains of the piece without an explanation of how they got out of their last predicament. I recognize that, but I still would have appreciated one line anyway.
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Post by nottenst on Jun 21, 2019 20:07:20 GMT
The Behind the Scenes material includes interviews with the sound designers strutting their stuff. Nice to hear from them.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jun 21, 2019 22:34:06 GMT
I wonder what the arc of the second set of stories is. I mean, would it be possible to move one (or two) to the third set so as to have Paul/Avon properly in the final set rather than just posthumous cameos, with the remaining rewritten to fit around the narrative.
I'm also sad, selfishly, that even if BF do get the rights for Season D audios we'll not get full cast. I wonder did Paul record the final Lucifer book?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2019 6:42:29 GMT
Yes very very sad at Paul’s passing . And sad also that a full series four cast will never come to be but there are other stories to tell in the B7 universe that do not include Avon and Servalan and Blake. I would definitely love to hear Soolins story definitely .Th e Liberator Chronicles i was also wary of at first until the brilliant THREE showed me how well it can be done so am not averse to those continuing at all .
but so many great actors passing is very sad but all good things end but at least they left quality listening behind for us to remember them and enjoy
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jun 22, 2019 20:35:57 GMT
I don’t know how you do Blake’s 7 without Avon, Blake or Servalan. To me even more than Blake, Avon was the show. If the series is to continue, I see two possible paths. Recast the leads, and I mean all the leads or go down a path where you extend the universe and examine the rebellion and how Blake influenced it.
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Post by smith11 on Jun 22, 2019 22:07:37 GMT
I don’t know how you do Blake’s 7 without Avon, Blake or Servalan. To me even more than Blake, Avon was the show. If the series is to continue, I see two possible paths. Recast the leads, and I mean all the leads or go down a path where you extend the universe and examine the rebellion and how Blake influenced it. I have a feeling that we will go back to a Liberator Chronicles style releases, something I’m completely behind
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jun 22, 2019 22:40:51 GMT
I don’t know how you do Blake’s 7 without Avon, Blake or Servalan. To me even more than Blake, Avon was the show. If the series is to continue, I see two possible paths. Recast the leads, and I mean all the leads or go down a path where you extend the universe and examine the rebellion and how Blake influenced it. I have a feeling that we will go back to a Liberator Chronicles style releases, something I’m completely behind I was talking about full cast audios moving forward. On a more limited scale, Liberator Chronicles is of course an option.
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Post by lidar2 on Feb 25, 2020 10:59:20 GMT
Started Restoration 1. 2 stories in and very impressed - 2 very, very strong stories.
Baxendale has written some great stuff for B7 before and I am glad he is lead writer on this. A great start to the series.
The Hunted was even better, a really good story.
So far both these stories have been at the Rumours of Death, Sarcophagus end of the Season C spectrum, let's hope there is nothing at the Dawn of the Gods, Moloch end.
Interesting what they are doing with Tarrant, I have always been of the school of thought that his character changed a bit between Seasons C and D, maybe this will give that some context. As an aside, I recall the Cassette extras on The Sevenfold Crown when the interviewer asked Steven Pacey if Tarrant's character changed between seasons and his reply was "What character was that then?"
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Post by frisby78 on Feb 25, 2020 11:49:57 GMT
Started Restoration 1. 2 stories in and very impressed - 2 very, very strong stories. Baxendale has written some great stuff for B7 before and I am glad he is lead writer on this. A great start to the series. The Hunted was even better, a really good story. So far both these stories have been at the Rumours of Death, Sarcophagus end of the Season C spectrum, let's hope there is nothing at the Dawn of the Gods, Moloch end. Interesting what they are doing with Tarrant, I have always been of the school of thought that his character changed a bit between Seasons C and D, maybe this will give that some context. As an aside, I recall the Cassette extras on The Sevenfold Crown when the interviewer asked Steven Pacey if Tarrant's character changed between seasons and his reply was "What character was that then?" Pacey has always admitted he remembers absolutely nothing about the original series. Love bloke though.
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 2, 2020 14:48:19 GMT
Story 3 Figurehead Today.
It was a pretty strong story, not quite as good as the first 2 but good nevertheless. Did get a bit complex/convoluted and hard to follow who was double-crossing / triple-crossing who.
3 stories in and Restoration is coming across as stronger than Crossfire at the equivalent stage.
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Post by lidar2 on Mar 10, 2020 13:51:30 GMT
Have now done all 4 stories of Restoration 1. A very strong set indeed, the 4 episodes collectively comprising the strongest of all the 4 episode box sets so far. Unlike some of the Crossfire box sets, which had a couple of weaker episodes and few good but not outstanding episodes, the quality was consistently high throughout Restoration 1. I just hope it is maintained for the next 2 boxsets.
With regard to the 4rth story, it was very good although the premise and set up in the first half was perhaps slightly stronger than the resolution in the second half. I don't know if the events will be referenced in future episodes - I certainly hope so, they were a bit too significant in terms of the regulars' relationships to be brushed under the carpet with a reset button, albeit the overall Restoration arc needs to end with a reset button so we can pick up with Terminal. My only gripe - regular readers of my posts will know by now that there is always one - was that the crew seemed to overlook the fact that Avon was basically running out on them, leaving them to die. Not a word of reproach or anything else said about it at all.
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