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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 2:47:02 GMT
This thread, covering Blind Terror raised the idea of a sub-board being created for the Big Finish Originals. I created this thread so that people can raise ideas about if this is needed / how the boards should be arranged. Hopefully this a good place to have this discussion. Mods, feel free to move it as appropriate. I feel that the Worlds of Big Finish board has always been a "catch-all" / "other" board. So it contains an eclectic group of ranges. Most based on pre-existing material (Avengers, Survivors, etc.), 'Classics', Star Cops and Callan, Pathfinder. Some have sub-boards, some not. Nothing springs to mind immediately, but would there be any releases that would now be considered "Big Finish Originals"? They'll be in there too. My proposal this this: A Big Finish Originals board, a Big Finish Classics board, and another board for ranges based on pre-existing material. Those ranges should also probably have their own sub-boards. (Feel free to juggle boards / sub-boards as needed.) I'm not sure how much work this would be, but mods: is this worth considering?
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Post by hamsterexastris on Jan 16, 2018 4:29:36 GMT
Nothing springs to mind immediately, but would there be any releases that would now be considered "Big Finish Originals"? Mervyn Stone. The Big Finish Drama Showcase titles. When you say "pre-existing material", is that just licensed stuff, or would that include works using public domain content too? (I'm specifically thinking about Dorian Grey and Sherlock Holmes here. There's arguments for them going in any of the three - although the "Classics" argument is weakest - but I could argue both "Originals" and pre-existing for them.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 4:56:49 GMT
Nothing springs to mind immediately, but would there be any releases that would now be considered "Big Finish Originals"? Mervyn Stone. The Big Finish Drama Showcase titles. When you say "pre-existing material", is that just licensed stuff, or would that include works using public domain content too? (I'm specifically thinking about Dorian Grey and Sherlock Holmes here. There's arguments for them going in any of the three - although the "Classics" argument is weakest - but I could argue both "Originals" and pre-existing for them.) I see the problems there. I would argue that Dorian and Sherlock both go in "Classics" (even non-adapted stories), because the works they are based on are in the public domain. But I suppose what I'm ultimately aiming for is: Over time Big Finish has released lots of new things that don't fit into a particular board, so they've gone into "other". Can we sort though it now? There are many ranges that probably should have their own boards, but don't. And the boards could use some rearranging (pulling some up, creating new 'folders' etc). |
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Post by omega on Jan 16, 2018 8:43:48 GMT
Mervyn Stone. The Big Finish Drama Showcase titles. When you say "pre-existing material", is that just licensed stuff, or would that include works using public domain content too? (I'm specifically thinking about Dorian Grey and Sherlock Holmes here. There's arguments for them going in any of the three - although the "Classics" argument is weakest - but I could argue both "Originals" and pre-existing for them.) I see the problems there. I would argue that Dorian and Sherlock both go in "Classics" (even non-adapted stories), because the works they are based on are in the public domain. But I suppose what I'm ultimately aiming for is: Over time Big Finish has released lots of new things that don't fit into a particular board, so they've gone into "other". Can we sort though it now? There are many ranges that probably should have their own boards, but don't. And the boards could use some rearranging (pulling some up, creating new 'folders' etc). Maybe splitting the individual range boards into release discussion threads and other topics on those ranges. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 10:54:30 GMT
I know Doctor Who fans like to have everything neat and tidy, just let's not make this place too cluttered with different sections. (I'm not against splitting boards off, but any change needs to be sensible so it's not a chore to wade through all the different sections.)
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Post by Digi on Jan 16, 2018 12:49:45 GMT
Splitting/specializing one larger forum into smaller other boards is a plan that works well on paper, but in quite a few years of moderating other forums, I have yet to see it ever work in reality. What tends to happen is that the community splits into its own little fiefdoms, cross-posting peters out over time, and the natural attrition of users in general makes the now-smaller boards die out from a combination of losing people and potential new users not bothering to join up because all they see is a ‘dead’ board.
Web forums tend to thrive more when things are kept more on the generalized side of things. Yes, this will invariably lead to personality conflicts, but that’s just life—it’s not an exclusively internet problem. The vastly more important positive side is that the more concentrated people are, the more they mingle. The more they mingle, the more activity this place gets. More activity attracts new users, keeping this place’s momentum going.
Think of it like a party: you invite 20 people over to your house for dinner and drinks. The party is a success if everyone chats and has fun together. The party is a disaster if those 20 people split off into groups of 2-4 as soon as dinner is ready and all go sit in different rooms to eat and drink.
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Post by Ela on Jan 16, 2018 15:03:18 GMT
Our goal is to not have a proliferation of boards. In cases where there were a lot of discussion threads, we made sub-boards in the World of Big Finish board for several specific ranges. I expect that will continue to be our reasoning for any creation of new boards.
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Post by jasonward on Jan 16, 2018 15:16:29 GMT
Our goal is to not have a proliferation of boards. In cases where there were a lot of discussion threads, we made sub-boards in the World of Big Finish board for several specific ranges. I expect that will continue to be our reasoning for any creation of new boards. I think this makes sense, only to create separate areas for subjects that generate enough posts that they would otherwise overwhelm lesser posted on subjects. |
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Post by Ela on Jan 16, 2018 15:19:57 GMT
Our goal is to not have a proliferation of boards. In cases where there were a lot of discussion threads, we made sub-boards in the World of Big Finish board for several specific ranges. I expect that will continue to be our reasoning for any creation of new boards. I think this makes sense, only to create separate areas for subjects that generate enough posts that they would otherwise overwhelm lesser posted on subjects. Yup, exactly, Jason. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 18:05:35 GMT
Fair enough. That all makes sense.  |
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Post by gregm on Jan 17, 2018 12:50:52 GMT
While this is being thought about, the Dorian Gray could be retired from the front page to a subsidiary board of Worlds of Big Finish (or whichever part of the divided board it more properly belongs to). I know it's a missed series (missed by me, too!) but it seems foolish to retain on the front page if it isn't continuing. This could be done now, unless restructuring things is onerous and best done all at once.
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Post by Zagreus on Jan 17, 2018 22:22:20 GMT
While this is being thought about, the Dorian Gray could be retired from the front page to a subsidiary board of Worlds of Big Finish (or whichever part of the divided board it more properly belongs to). I know it's a missed series (missed by me, too!) but it seems foolish to retain on the front page if it isn't continuing. This could be done now, unless restructuring things is onerous and best done all at once. I'd be okay (but still a little bittersweet) with that |
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Post by Ela on Jan 17, 2018 22:58:07 GMT
No urgency to move that board, in my opinion. There's still some discussion going on there.
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