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Post by Ela on Jan 21, 2018 17:50:20 GMT
I don't see why changing the gender of a character would be more alarming to women than men, and I haven't seen any evidence that this is the case. I've seen many more men than women express alarm at the gender change of time lords, in particular. Doesn't help that every gender change regeneration we have seen or heard about is from male to female. That could be because most of the main character time lords are men, dontcha think?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 20:45:05 GMT
Just to clarify: to me, it seemed like her storyline was working from gender stereotypes. The Master is now a woman, so of course, she's more in touch with her feelings and motivations then she was in her previous incarnations and that kind of makes me uncomfortable, as well as putting women on a pedestal (despite being a psychopathic murder). But, I don't know if that's just me and I just wanted to get a perspective from female fans about it. I'm not sold on the idea that a woman must be more in touch with her feelings than a man. Oh, I'm not, either. That's why it made me cringe.
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Post by thethirddoctor on Jan 21, 2018 21:58:06 GMT
Doesn't help that every gender change regeneration we have seen or heard about is from male to female. That could be because most of the main character time lords are men, dontcha think? Yeah! I understand how difficult it would have been to have made the General a female character to start off with, and how difficult it would have been for Missy to regenerate back into a man! Steven Moffat didn't have any opportunity to do those things!
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Post by Ela on Jan 21, 2018 22:05:59 GMT
That could be because most of the main character time lords are men, dontcha think? Yeah! I understand how difficult it would have been to have made the General a female character to start off with, and how difficult it would have been for Missy to regenerate back into a man! Steven Moffat didn't have any opportunity to do those things! It wouldn't have been difficult, and I guess Steven Moffat chose not to do those things at this time. I'm not sure what General you are referring to. In any case, the fact remains that most of the major Time Lord characters in Doctor Who over the years have been men. It's not a change and not different to have one regenerate into a man; it's run of the mill. It's something new if a Time Lord who was previously male regenerates into a woman.
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Post by thethirddoctor on Jan 21, 2018 22:09:44 GMT
Yeah! I understand how difficult it would have been to have made the General a female character to start off with, and how difficult it would have been for Missy to regenerate back into a man! Steven Moffat didn't have any opportunity to do those things! It wouldn't have been difficult, and I guess Steven Moffat chose not to do those things at this time. I'm not sure what General you are referring to. In any case, the fact remains that most of the major Time Lord characters in Doctor Who over the years have been men. It's not a change and not different to have one regenerate into a man; it's run of the mill. It's something new if a Time Lord who was previously male regenerates into a woman. The General in Hell Bent. But, yeah. Over the 6 years Moffat has been in charge, he hasn't had the opportunity to have a female TimeLord regenerate into a male Timelord. He's really only had the last three series to show us his gender issues. Such a wasted opportunity!
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Post by Ela on Jan 21, 2018 22:16:31 GMT
It wouldn't have been difficult, and I guess Steven Moffat chose not to do those things at this time. I'm not sure what General you are referring to. In any case, the fact remains that most of the major Time Lord characters in Doctor Who over the years have been men. It's not a change and not different to have one regenerate into a man; it's run of the mill. It's something new if a Time Lord who was previously male regenerates into a woman. The General in Hell Bent. But, yeah. Over the 6 years Moffat has been in charge, he hasn't had the opportunity to have a female TimeLord regenerate into a male Timelord. He's really only had the last three series to show us his gender issues. Such a wasted opportunity! There weren't really any major character female Time Lords that he could have had regenerated into a male Time Lord. Which is really my point.
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Post by thethirddoctor on Jan 21, 2018 22:19:50 GMT
The General in Hell Bent. But, yeah. Over the 6 years Moffat has been in charge, he hasn't had the opportunity to have a female TimeLord regenerate into a male Timelord. He's really only had the last three series to show us his gender issues. Such a wasted opportunity! There weren't really any major character female Time Lords that he could have had regenerated into a male Time Lord. Which is really my point. Shame the Showrunner didn't have enough time to write some female TimeLord characters. He only had six series to do it in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 22:33:09 GMT
There weren't really any major character female Time Lords that he could have had regenerated into a male Time Lord. Which is really my point. Shame the Showrunner didn't have enough time to write some female TimeLord characters. He only had six series to do it in. He wrote two. Not that there was much of a plethora to choose from, so I'm not really seeing your point here.
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Post by thethirddoctor on Jan 22, 2018 12:37:35 GMT
Shame the Showrunner didn't have enough time to write some female TimeLord characters. He only had six series to do it in. He wrote two. Not that there was much of a plethora to choose from, so I'm not really seeing your point here. I'm sorry you don't understand what I am saying, but that's not my fault!
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Post by Ela on Jan 22, 2018 17:28:03 GMT
I think everyone’s made their point here.
Time to move on, please.
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