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Post by bobod on Jun 28, 2016 10:35:10 GMT
As you've listened to them all, a quick question ... Curse of Shurafa, Deliver us from Evil and Panic I believe are all set before Bloodlust in terms of the main story, but are bookended by stuff set after bloodlust. Are there any major spoilers / problems with listening to them in chronological order of their main story, i.e. with all the other 1970s stuff, rather than after bloodlust, which I haven't got to yet? Yes. You would find out some of the plot development of Bloodlust listening to those first. And meet characters introduced in Bloodlust.
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Post by Zagreus on Jun 28, 2016 15:05:30 GMT
Yeah I'd generally advise listening to audios in framing sequence order, with a few exceptions, like The Skinwalkers, where the framing sequence is pretty ignorable.
Edit: Or at the very least release order.
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Post by Zagreus on Jun 28, 2016 16:38:11 GMT
Dark Shadows Dramatic Reading 6: The Path of Fate (Angelique & Quentin - Circa 1988)
The play opens with Angelique giving a rather... biased summary of her past, especially given the newly revealed circumstances of her self-exile. She (understandably) gives a more friendly account of herself than what actually occured.
Given that we now know of those events, we can place this audio in 1988, as it's stated to be five years since her return. Which puts it only four years after the last season of dramatic readings. And possibly only three years after Bloodline, depending on how much time passes between the end of Tainted Love and the beginning of that. I guess we'll find out later. Given how fast they zipped through the remainder of 1983 and the bulk of 1984 there in the last season of Dramatic Readings, it would be rather easy for them to bridge the gap there as well. On the other hand, they could just put like three or four more seasons of miniseries in there as well. Who knows.
I wonder how long the Collins family has known she's back in the land of the living. I mean, if she's been shopping in the market I guess they'd hear about it eventually, but you'd think they would have contacted her sooner. Granted, we've got a couple blank years to fill in, as I said, so I guess there's nothing saying she hasn't shown up every now and again.
Interesting that it's somewhat common knowledge that she's a witch, or was, at least. I guess, given the events of the latter half of Bloodlust, that this shouldn't be that surprising.
The amount of exposition is a bit jarring, but this was, what, the 6th dramatic reading? They did a lot of summarizing of television stuff in the early days.
Oh man we get explicit exposition about Quentin's past, about the first Quentin. I mean, the other audios sort of cover that stuff, but this is a rather explicit infodump.
Are they talking about the 1995 storyline from the show? Haven't gotten that far in the Original Series yet.
There is a heart in that closet. What. The. fiddlesticks. Welcome to Collinwood, I suppose. New character! Heart in a Jar!
Very colorful descriptions given in the narration.
Man what is up with this stairway. Doesn't exactly seem to be a stairway through time like it's older brother.
I note that this is the second time an explicit Lovecraft entity has shown up in the audios. The show, I understand, pastiched Lovecraft a lot, but made up their own olde ones and gods to play with. The fact the audios are just borrowing from Lovecraft without even making a pastiche of it bothers me somewhat.
Oh man it's that heart again. And, oh dear, full werewolf Quentin. That can't be a good thing. For anybody. No wonder he's been blacking out.
Man the first Quentin sounds like a hardass. Builds a non-Euclidian stairway through time and messes with shit. Damn. I think I've heard mention of Judah before. So are we to understand that this heart is how the original Quentin found the power to build his mighty stairway? And that it has something to do with Angelique's old teacher of witchcraft?
Selby does a wonderful job of making Quentin sound helpless and terrified. He's a great actor.
Who the hell is this guy? This the Judah guy they've been talking of? Oh, I guess not. Isaiah Mason, the teacher of Angelique's teacher. He ever show up in the show? So the OG Quentin cut out Isaiah's heart to use his power? Damn, that's cold.
Isaiah is possessing Quentin, and seems to think that Angelique is just going to roll over and take it. She shows him lol. But, in the process, damns herself once more.
That hellhound scene was rather gruesome to listen to.
Girl just can't catch a break :/
All in all, a good play. I liked it. A nice two-hander, with some first person narration.
Next up I'll be going through the entries in Echoes of the Past, which will round out with a follow-up to this, and thus we progress ever onwards.
Time marches on...
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Post by Zagreus on Jun 29, 2016 0:34:37 GMT
Dark Shadows: Echoes of the Past: Trask the Exorcist (The Reverend Orville Viloris Trask - Circa 1790)
fiddlesticks yeah Jerry Lacy!
Now, I haven't met this character in the show yet, but I've been made vaguely aware of him tangentially in the audios. There were apparently a number of instances where people were talking about "Reverend Trask" which I mistook for them speaking of Gregory, rather than the earlier character, featured in this reading.
It's interesting, being introduced to a, to me at least, new member of the Trask family. I've quite loved this lot in the audios, from Gregory to Isaiah to Tony. I wonder if Mr Sands is also related to the Trasks in some way, as would be tradition for the rest of Lacy's characters.
Small note on the full name: It took me forever to figure out how to spell Viloris, searching the internet until I found a name that was spelt the way the name is pronounced. It's fairly uncommon, but does indeed only show up in the New England area, and not for some years. If I've got it wrong, someone from BF please pop in and correct me.
The reading sees The Reverend Trask (he avoids the use of his full name, which he inherited from a grandparent who was convicted for horse-thievery) penniless, and hoping to get paid to exorcise the demons from an apparently possessed daughter.
It is amusing to me to see the concept of a young woman going through her bratty teenage years being mistaken for possession by a demon. The fact that it's read straight and played for serious is both hilarious and deeply disturbing, because I can't help but be troubled by the implications that this scenario isn't actually something that didn't happen in the era being portrayed.
Trask seems to understand that this isn't possession at all, and offers to strike a deal with the daughter; her parents think she's 'cured', meaning she gets to go to her festival with the boy she likes, and he gets some recompense of some sort, hopefully in the form of food or dosh. I like how she calls him out on it.
And suddenly, the supernatural rears its ugly head. Was wondering when it would show up. So maybe she's not just a bratty teenager after all.
I love the zero self-awareness Trask possesses when trying to do an exorcism. Like, the devil calls him out on his stolen cross and the fact that he's the most despicable thing in the room, and it just goes straight over Trask's head.
The Hall of Incidents is an interesting concept. Somewhat Zelazny in approach, reminds of The Hall of Mirrors. Still, it's a nice conceit to help us get to know this new Trask better.
Hmm. The Devil's (and he appears to be the definite article) plans for Orville prefigure the later (chronologically speaking) Rise and Fall of the House of Trask storyline. Makes a nice retro-active starting point for that storyline, this story of The Reverend Trask.
Heheh the Devil's petty revenge is hilarious.
And ah poor bastard actually convinces himself that the exorcism was his own doing.
Trask gonna Trask.
A good reading, I quite enjoyed it.
Next up: The Missing Reel, featuring Quentin in 1958.
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Post by Zagreus on Jun 29, 2016 16:44:45 GMT
Dark Shadows: Echoes of the Past: The Missing Reel( Quentin Collins II - 1958) This one takes place betweeeeeen (checks notes) The Eternal Actress and The Darkest Shadow. Interesting. And of course it takes place in California. Good stuff. Strange guy (in a normal sort of way) shows up at a diner looking for Quentin. Writer for a rag. Oh man this guy just shrugged off Metropolis. Them's fightin' words! Apparently there's an old silent horror film called The Werewolf's Curse. It's kind of fascinating listening to this fan, this Eddie guy, ramble in nervous excitement over this film he loves. The cadence at which Selby reads off his lines is so accurate to those types I know in real life, he does a really good job of it. Over the course of around ten minutes we get a rambling tale about the trouble production of this film, about deaths in the cast and crew, and about eight minutes that were supposedly removed from the final cut. But ah, there was apparently a full version of the film smuggled out before the cuts were made. And Quentin's got a briefcase with him. Hmm. Oh hey, Pasadena, I spent some of my childhood there. Ah, Quentin's got the reel. Eddie followed him here from the auction. The Werewolf's Curse was made in 1927. Cool, another little tidbit to fill in Quentin's adventures. That'd be a few years prior to Blood Dance then. Can I just take a moment to say that I'm really loving the sound design in this? Trask the Exorcist didn't have a whole lot of sound fx going on, but it had splashes here and there, but this one's been different. Nice, subtle background jukebox during the diner scenes. Film real noise and olde timey silent film piano during the screening. Combined with Selby doing a nice distinct voice for Eddie and this doesn't really feel all that different to early Dramatic Readings like The Skin Walkers so far. But anyway, we are treated to a "viewing" of the missing bit of film. Ah, and now we get Quentin, recounting the events of 1927 to Eddie, explaining just what the deal is. Starts fairly typically for a Quentin story: wandering around, gets involved with something, falls in love with someone, chaos ensues, etc. And then things get dark. Very dark. Oh, man. You know, for a story that doesn't actually apparently feature anything supernatural as of yet, it's still pretty sordid and shocking. Very Hollywood. I like it. Next up is Lunar Tides, featuring Miss Maggie Evans, in May of 1983.
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Post by Zagreus on Jun 30, 2016 3:26:38 GMT
Dark Shadows: Echoes of the Past: Lunar Tides( Maggie Evans - May, 1983) First of all, I'm glad to see that apparently all eras are fair game for these short trips anthologies. It never would have occurred to me to put a short in here, as I've been kind of viewing the 1980's stuff as "full cast" territory. Even the last round of Dramatic Readings was more or less full cast with the occasional light narration. But no, this is great, I'm glad they don't feel the need to avoid any time periods. In particular, this story takes place after Kingdom of the Dead, when Maggie's driven Barnabas out of town and Quentin's left on his own, but is before Snowflake & Bloodlust. So, let's see what Maggie's getting up to then, shall we? Apparently there's another mysterious stranger in town. One Letty Winslow. With her comes something called "The Luner Tide", a phenomena that comes once in forever, said to herald good luck, and a beautiful view of the pregnant moon. Surely nothing will go wrong with this. Nope, none at all. I'd like to take another moment to step back and praise the sound design again. Like The Missing Reel, this one's rather fleshed out, and again feels very similar to the early Dramatic Readings. The authentic sounding radio noise scramble, the sound of gulls and waves, the subtle background music cues... all good stuff. Nice to see we're including "off-screen" appearances of characters, Maggie calling up Rhonda to voice her suspicions about Letty. Adds a nice sense of congruity. The first person narration does as well, and, combined with the excellent sound design, makes it feel more like a one-hander episode than a short story reading. Jessica Griffin makes her presence known, reading up on local history, and learning about the Lunar Tide. I wonder if it has anything to do with the Crimson Pearl, as she read about it in a magazine about the town's founders. Cue Letty showing up, a tourist in town to see the tide. The next bit is Maggie rambling on about meeting Letty and how they came to know each other. Letty knows all about the Lunar Tides, and is here to see them, and she'll be helping out with the town festival thereof. She tells a tale of the ship Purity Star, which was saved from wreckage by the super moon during the last Lunar Tide. Oh man Letty's weird. She's talkin to ghosts and getting spooked by the gulls. And shit, they're going full Hitchcock, staring in at the women from the window. So maybe she's right to get spooked. Strange mists rolling in to town. Oh no Willie's sick! Strange sickness rolling in to town with the mist. Man why the hell do the gulls keep staring at Letty? Maggie is rightly suspicious about birds acting strange, especially after the whole thing with Strix. Sickness knocking out townsfolk left and right. Rhonda remains skeptical. You know, after some of the stuff in Twinkling of the Eye, I have some questions regarding Jessica's late husband. Man, what is it with Maggie and ghosts? Oh man, Letty came over (or rather, almost came over) back when the black death was a thing. Lordy. Her story is probably one of the earliest Collinsport tales we have. I mean, the European outbreak was circa 1350, right? Oh, wait, they're probably talking about the one in the early 1900s. Maybe? Who knows. Oh, wait, the Lunar Tide is something that only happens once every several hundred years, so 1900 is probably too close, time-wise, to the eighties. So, yeah, going with the 1350s outbreak there. Wow. Maggie and Letty rowing out to sea, looking for Letty's corpse. What fun adventures Maggie gets up to. Yeah! You go Rhonda! Man I really like her. Savin the day an' shit. Yeah And, crisis averted, the townsfolk awaken and begin preparing for the festival ringing in the end of May. Oh, but we're not done yet. Ha! Maggie just decks the spirits-laden corpse with a snow-shovel and locks in a trunk. Ha! I don't know why that amuses me so much. Ah, and now Maggie's resolved to "stop the monsters". Nice bridge in to Bloodlust, that. Hmm, actually, I wonder. They use a similar sound effect for the legion of ghosts that they do for the whispering cave, and Maggie described an effect like the temperature dropping when in their presence. You think she hid the trunk in the cave at the base of the cliff, and that's why the cave is now haunted? Either way, another good entry in Echoes' lineup. Next time: Confession, featuring Angelique, sometime between The Path of Fate and Return to Collinwood.
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Post by Zagreus on Jun 30, 2016 16:48:18 GMT
Dark Shadows: Echoes of the Past: Confession( Angelique - post-Path of Fate) Oh man right off the bat we've got some classic Dark Shadows sound cues going on. Good stuff. Angelique writing out her last confession. We get some ruminations that make non-specific references to the events of The Path of Fate. And of course some ruminations of Barnabas, who's off travelling with Julia (again (again)). She's been using witchcraft to watch him as he travels, hitchhiking in the minds of people and animals nearby. I wonder if this Black Shroud thing is real. Or rather, if it's a real world myth. It sounds like the sort of thing that could come out of folklore somewhere, but I've never heard of it before, though admittedly I haven't done a whole lot of research into the lore of Central Africa. The conceit of Angelique sitting in her cabin in the woods while at the same time being witchily present overseas is actually a nice one, and could work well if one wanted to use her as a supporting character in audios featuring those abroad (as it does now, sort of). Angelique franticly casting spells across the ocean in an attempt to get this shroud thing away from Barnabas. She's... gonna pay for this later, isn't she? I'm having fun trying to imagine how this would be filmed in the Original Series. There'd be some interesting camera overlay tricks, similar to the early Josette stuff, for the Shroud, and I imagine some cheap visually trickery for a tarantula (representing Angelique) on set casting out this "demon". Hehe Angelique using her witchcraft to inflict petty inconveniances on Julia amuses me. We are then treated to Angelique bruskly listing off various threats to Barnabas without his knowledge. I can almost imagine her ticking them off on her fingers. We are treated to some nice descriptions of the market in Istanbul. Goes a good way towards helping the image form in the eye of one's mind. Hmm, something seems to have set a trap for our favorite creature of the night. A singular ring of some sort. Which freaks Angelique out something fierce. And then we segue a bit, getting some insights into Angelique's time in the layers of Hell. Fun times. Or rather, not. At all. The Stoker of Hell. Reminds of The Butcher, or The Blacksmith, from the Diablo series of video games. It's a common archetype. Helps me solidify an image of the being in my head. This is the one who made the ring. Angelique is a bit torn between helping Barny and drawing The Stoker's ire. Well, I guess that's that decision taken care of. Ohhhhhh Angy you're gonna get it now. Yup, she's getting it. Getting it bad. And, uh, Collinsport seems to be in the way. Oh dear. Before the final end, Angelique is bid confess, in such detail that all the other things that crawl in the night will know what happens when you cross those who rule in Hell. Hmm. We've named a secondary character. I... don't know if that's a good thing or not. And, she's shown up again... and... oh. Angy no I, uh, kind of hope this doesn't work out for her. Yeah. Damn. So, uh, despite how that turned out, it was good. And powerful. A nice roundout to the set. Am greatly looking forward to the next one (out in... damn, December). At present time I believe a story from Matthew Waterhouse(!) is the only episode yet announced, but the cast list is already up, and it's going to be Lacy, Selby, Scott, and Parker again. Selby and Parker will probably be playing Quentin and Angelique, though it's possible, I suppose, that they could be doing otherwise. I wonder which member of the Trask family Lacy will be playing this time. Hmm. Actually, given that Waterhouse is writing the story, I wonder if we'll get some connections between the Trasks and the Cunninghams, especially considering The Reverend Cunningham from Blood & Fire. Scott's probably going to be playing Maggie, though she's got a multitude of other parts if they chose to go another route with it. Anyway! Next up is Return to Collinwood, set in 2003 (iirc), and featuring a full-cast. And after that... who knows. I may go back and do this all again from the beginning, giving proper writeups to everything, as I didn't start doing meaty posts like this until somewhere in the middle of the 1970s audios. We'll see how things go.
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Chancellery Guard
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Post by bobod on Jul 6, 2016 9:21:56 GMT
So, uh, despite how that turned out, it was good. And powerful. A nice roundout to the set. Am greatly looking forward to the next one (out in... damn, December). At present time I believe a story from Matthew Waterhouse(!) is the only episode yet announced, but the cast list is already up, and it's going to be Lacy, Selby, Scott, and Parker again. Although Matthew's is the only announced title, it has been announced that Lara has written the story she'll be reading.
At the DS Fest, I heard her and Jerry talking about what a thrill it was to be writing DS stories to perform.
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Post by Zagreus on Jul 6, 2016 17:24:53 GMT
Alright! Took me a bit, due to IRL things getting in the way, but here it is! Dark Shadows: Return to Collinwood( Everyone they had lying around - Collinwood, 2003) We open. Liz has passed away David is away, having not set foot in Collinwood after an argument with Roger some years prior. Roger has since passed, by David's still not home. Barnabas and Julia (& Stokes) are eternally traveling. Maggie's a bigwig at Windcliff (something something inmates running the asylum ) and she's now a couple with Quentin, Joe having passed since we last saw him. Carolyn's married Ned Stuart. Angelique's dead(?) (again?) (unclear on this). Willie's settled down with Jessica, and they're living over at The Old House. And Shaw is still in Windcliff (though one wonders how he avoided the machinations of Doctor Rankin. Perhaps he was in another sanitorium at the time...). I think that covers everybody. Anyway, the call has gone out, and the family (or what members can be found) are gathering for the reading of Liz's will. David's been away for ten years or so, so circa '93. Daaamn. I wonder if Amy went with him. Quentin didn't manage to track him down. Mrs Franklin is as crotchety as her predecessor. Lovely hahah. I wonder what happened to Lela? Hmm. Seances. Good old Dark Shadows standby. Hahahaha this scene with Willie is fantastic. I can just about imagine him fiddling around, trying to install a jacuzzi. It's great. You can just feel the passion in his voice when he talks about all the work he's done on restoring The Old House. Joe passed about a decade ago, so mid to early nineties. Angelique's mind-talking to Carolyn. That's... certainly not a good thing. And is painting a picture of her, apparently. Only, no one recognizes it? Really? No one recognizes Angelique? What the hell, guys. Ah, that gramophone. You know, how the hell did Maggie go a full decade without running into anything supernatural to jog her memories? Maybe she only returned to the area recently... Bwahahahahaha Willie can't do pipes as well as he thought. He and Jessica make a good pair Willie finds a package in the wall. Interesting historical tidbit about Cigar Lounges. Having listened to Dreaming Of The Water, I am a lot less sympathetic towards Shaw. IIRC, I didn't even know who he was first time I listened to this. Ah, I see Angelique's got her hooks into him as well. Ah, time for the seance. Tossup between this and the reading of the will for longest single scene of the play. As the scene goes on, it becomes increasingly apparent that this has nothing to do with Liz and is, in fact, Angelique manipulating things from behind the scenes in order to come back to life. Again. I guess she didn't manage to get away from the Stoker after all. Or something. Who knows. There's between ten and fifteen years between Confession and this, after all. But yeah, scene starts out calm enough but then builds to fervor and everything devolves. I wonder why they didn't call Amy. Like, we know, in a real world sense, that her character hadn't been reintroduced at this point, but listening to it now, it's, like, why didn't they call Amy?. I can't help but suspect that something horrible involving the Cunningham family has happened. Sebastian shows up at the old house and attacks Jessica And on to disc 2! Quentin ain't happy with Angelique. Interesting. You'd think they parted on pleasant terms. I guess things soured there, prior to the latest end. Ah, speak of the devil, Angelique, sorry, Cassandra is at the door! God, the saccharin is down right poisonous. If wit were knives, they'd all be bleeding. Carolyn seems pretty calm about being possessed. She's grown over the years, it seems. So, the first time I listened to this, I was not aware that Quentin & Angelique had a bit of a romance at one point. Ah, I see, Angelique wants to either blackmail Quentin or just wait till everyone else (save Quentin) is dead. Damn, the two of them are tossing barbs at each other. Must have been a rocky time of it after The Path of Fate for Quentin to think so ill of her, now that she's come back again. Ah, I see, she's got his portrait. Hrm. Quentin and Willie make a nice pair. I'm glad they continued it a bit in The House of Despair, but then Barnabas came back and Quentin was shunted to a more supporting role again :/ Man I hate that housekeeper. What a bitch. I suppose that means she's well written hahah Willie digging holes in the cemetery and grumbling about it is just great. I know Willie's the fall guy, but he plays it sooooo well hahah. There's something morbidly amusing about Willie reminiscing about the family mausoleum as if he were returning to a childhood home. Gives Shaw a good once-over, while he's at it. Good. And Maggie slapping Angelique like that is well deserved. Feels good man. Ah, and finally, the reading of the will. As I said earlier, this is probably the longest scene in the play, but it's a powerful scene, and helps wrap up some some left dangling from the Original Series since before even Barnabas was a thing. When I first listened to this, I was about half way through the Laura stuff in the Original Series, prior to Barnabas (or even Willie) had arrived on the scene, so all that stuff was fresh in my mind, and this scene ended up being perhaps even more poignant than it could have intended to be. Though, while I'm thinking about it, some stuff I've learned about Lara Parker's novels casts some of this in a slightly different light, and Quentin's comments there after the reading have a bit of a different undertone than I suspect was intended at the time. >__> Which brings us to Violet. Ah... Violet. At the time, I had precisely no idea why she was a big deal. But, now, I understand the significance of the Chavez name. Now, again, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO AMY? OR LELA?? OR BURKE??? AAAARGH! Heheheheh And I believe in a semi-recent podcast they floated the idea of doing some Dramatic Readings with Quentin and Maggie set after this play, as they get up to shenanigans. Should prove entertaining, if they go forward with it Also also, since starting this listen, I have since learned of Lara Parker's upcoming novel, Heiress of Collinwood, which features Victoria Winters coming home, and will address some things that were addressed in this play. Given some of Lara's fast and loose regard to continuity in her novels (which, I suppose, isn't really that much different from the show's approach, at times, which felt no compunction with retconning things for the sake of a good storyline), it will be interesting to see how well it dovetails. Now, afterthoughts. This one was... well, honestly, I recall struggling through it the first time round. I got to it after listening to a bit of the BF stuff and it's, quite frankly, not up to their standard. Like, it's not bad at all, just... BF does it better I do, of course, recognize its importance and significance. It is, for all intents, in a similar position to The Sirens of Time over on the Doctor Who side of things, a reuniting of cast to try and see if this audio thing is worth a go. And oh, the places it's lead us, a merry chase indeed... Looking back on my early thoughts after my first listen through this is somewhat amusing: Hard to believe that was only a year and change ago. Of course, having gone through all the rest of the audios, as well as getting a couple hundred episodes further into the Original Series, watching the Revival, and the three films, most of my questions and concerns have been answered. Of course, I now have different questions and concerns hahah. Ah well. Will be interesting to see how I feel about it in another year or so. Next up: I'm going to be going through the novels, or at least the novels starting with Angelique's Descent. I'll probably be posting my thoughts on those over in that thread, but depending on how well I feel they can be nested within the Big Finish continuity, I may include them in my next big chronological listen-through, which I do plan on doing, possibly later in the year after Bloodline and Haunting Memories are out.
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Post by Zagreus on Aug 13, 2016 18:33:12 GMT
I've put together a tentative outline for my next gigantic stroll through the series. I'm not starting yet, but I thought I'd post it up and see if anybody had feedback or suggestions on the order or placement of things.
Dark Shadows: The Origins (Angelique & The House of Trask)
1690 - Dramatic Reading 21 - The Crimson Pearl - Part 1 - Isaac Collins 1 1700 - Dramatic Reading 21 - The Crimson Pearl - Part 2 - Isaac Collins 2 1700 - Dramatic Reading 21 - The Crimson Pearl - Part 3 - Silas Collins 1 1720 - Dramatic Reading 21 - The Crimson Pearl - Part 3 - Silas Collins 2 1739 - Dramatic Reading 21 - The Crimson Pearl - Part 3 - Silas Collins 3 1780 - Dramatic Reading 21 - The Crimson Pearl - Part 4 - Marie du Pres 1791 - Dramatic Reading 21 - The Crimson Pearl - Part 4 - Millicent Collins 1 c1790 - Dark Shadows Echoes of the Past - Trask the Exorcist c1780 - Dramatic Reading 01 - Angelique's Descent - Part 1 - Innocence c1795 - Dramatic Reading 02 - Angelique's Descent - Part 2 - Betrayal 1796 - Dramatic Reading 10 - Final Judgement 1796 - Dramatic Reading 20 - The Lost Girl 1820 - Dramtic Reading 21 - The Crimson Pearl - Part 5 - Millicent Collins 2 1830 - Dramtic Reading 21 - The Crimson Pearl - Part 6 - Lamar Trask Segment 1855 - Dramatic Reading 28 - Speak No Evil 1857 - Dramatic Reading 39 - Curtain Call 1874 - Dramatic Reading 24 - Dress Me In Dark Dreams 1897 - Dramatic Reading 14 - The Doll House 1897 - Dramatic Reading 21 - The Crimson Pearl - Part 7 - Simon Briar 1897 - Dramatic Reading 21 - The Crimson Pearl - Part 8 - Angelique 1897 - Dramatic Reading 07 - The Wicked And The Dead 1861 - Dramatic Reading 18 - The Carrion Queen 1932 - Dramatic Reading 32 - A Collinwood Christmas 1941 - Dramatic Reading 19 - The Poisoned Soul 1941 - Dramatic Reading 26 - The Fall Of The House of Trask
Dark Shadows: The Original Series (Part 1: Victoria Winters & The Vampire)
1966 - Dark Shadows 1 to 122 - Victoria Winters 1967 - Dark Shadows 123 to 192 - Laura the Phoenix 1967 - Dark Shadows 193 to 276 - Barnabas the Vampire 1967 - Dramatic Reading 03 - Clothes Of Sand 1967 - Dark Shadows 277 to 290 - Barnabas the Vampire 1967 - Dark Shadows 291 to 329 - Barnabas' Cure 1967 - Dramatic Reading 08 - Echoes Of Insanity 1967 - Dark Shadows 330 to 365 - Barnabas' Cure 1967 - Dark Shadows 365 to 462 - 1795 1968 - Dark Shadows 463 to 636 - Adam & Eve 1968 - Dark Shadows 637 to 700 - The Werewolf
Dark Shadows: The Original Series (Part 2: The Vampire, The Witch, & The Werewolf)
1969 - Dark Shadows 701 to 886 - 1897 1899 - Dramatic Reading 05 - The Skin Walkers 1920 - Dramatic Reading 15 - The Blind Painter 1929 - Dramatic Reading 11 - Blood Dance 1941 - Dramatic Reading 13 - London's Burning 1941 - Dramatic Reading 17 - The Creeping Fog 1945 - Dramatic Reading 27 - Operation Victor 1950 - Dramatic Reading 25 - The Eternal Actress 1958 - Echoes the Past - The Missing Reel 1965 - Dramatic Reading 44 - The Darkest Shadow 1969 - Dramatic Reading 31 - The Haunted Refrain 1969 - Dark Shadows 887 to 980 - The Leviathans 1970 - Dark Shadows 981 to 1060 - 1970 in Parallel Time 1970 - Dark Shadows 1061 to 1070 - 1995 1970 - Dark Shadows 1071 to 1109 - Gerard Stiles 1970 - Dark Shadows 1110 to 1198 - 1840 1971 - Dark Shadows 1186 to 1245 - 1841 in Parallel Time
Strange Paradise (Meanwhile, in the Caribbean...)
1969 - Strange Paradise 1 to 65 - The Damned Isle of Maljardin 1970 - Strange Paradise 66 to 129 - Return to Desmond Hall 1970 - Strange Paradise 130 to 195 - Breaking the Curse of Death 1970 - Strange Paradise - The Audio Dramas
Dark Shadows: The Films (Adventures in Parallel Times)
1970 - House of Dark Shadows 1971 - Night of Dark Shadows 1972 - Dark Shadows
Dark Shadows: The 1970s (And What Happened After...)
1971 - Audiobook 1 - Angelique's Descent 1971 - Audiobook 2 - The Salem Branch 1972 - Audiobook 3 - Wolf Moon Rising 1972 - Dramatic Reading 04 - The Ghost Watcher 1973 - Dramatic Reading 09 - Curse Of The Pharaoh 1973 - Dramatic Reading 16 - The Death Mask 1973 - Dramatic Reading 21 - The Crimson Pearl 1973 - Dramatic Reading 22 - The Voodoo Amulet 1973 - Dramatic Reading 23 - The House By The Sea 1973 - Dramatic Reading 29 - The Last Stop 1973 - Dramatic Reading 30 - Dreaming Of The Water 1973 - Dramatic Reading 33 - The Phantom Bride 1973 - Dramatic Reading 34 - Beneath The Veil 1973 - Dramatic Reading 35 - The Enemy Within 1973 - Dramatic Reading 36 - The Lucifer Gambit 1973 - Dramatic Reading 37 - The Flip Side 1973 - Dramatic Reading 38 - Beyond The Grave 1973 - Dramatic Reading 40 - The Harvest Of Souls 1973 - Dramatic Reading 41 - The Happier Dead 1973 - Dramatic Reading 42 - Carriage Of The Damned 1973 - Dramatic Reading 43 - The Devil Cat 1975 - Dramatic Reading 12 - The Night Whispers
Dark Shadows: The 1980s (New Blood & Old Magic)
1982 - Full-Cast Drama 1.1 - The House Of Despair 1982 - Full-Cast Drama 1.2 - The Book Of Temptation 1982 - Full-Cast Drama 1.3 - The Christmas Presence 1983 - Full-Cast Drama 1.4 - The Rage Beneath 1983 - Full-Cast Drama 2 - Kingdom Of The Dead 1983 - Echoes the Past - Lunar Tides 1983 - Miniseries 1 - Bloodlust 1983 - Dramatic Reading 45 - Panic 1983 - Dramatic Reading 46 - The Curse of Shurafa 1983 - Dramatic Reading 47 - In the Twinkling of an Eye 1983 - Dramatic Reading 48 - Deliver Us From Evil 1984 - Dramatic Reading 50 - ...And Red All Over 1984 - Dramatic Reading 49 - Tainted Love 1767 - Full-Cast Drama 3 - Blood & Fire 1988 - Dramatic Reading 6 - The Path of Fate c1990 - Echoes the Past - Confession
Dark Shadows: The Revival (Victoria Winters & The Vampire, Nineties Redux)
1991 - Dark Shadows - The Revival
Dark Shadows: The Modern Age (The Adventures of Quentin Collins & Margaret Evans)
2003 - Full-Cast Drama 0 - Return to Collinwood
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Rob Morris
Big Finish Creative Team
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Post by Rob Morris on Aug 14, 2016 11:40:18 GMT
Strange Paradise (Meanwhile, in the Caribbean...)1969 - Strange Paradise 1 to 65 - The Damned Isle of Maljardin 1970 - Strange Paradise 66 to 129 - Return to Desmond Hall 1970 - Strange Paradise 130 to 195 - Breaking the Curse of Death 1970 - Strange Paradise - The Audio Dramas Wait... what? There are Strange Paradise Audio Dramas? Mind blown.
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bobod
Chancellery Guard
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Post by bobod on Aug 14, 2016 11:56:20 GMT
The Night Whispers is set in the 90s isn't it?
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Rob Morris
Big Finish Creative Team
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Post by Rob Morris on Aug 14, 2016 13:14:32 GMT
The Night Whispers is set in the 90s isn't it? Quite right, it is.
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Post by Zagreus on Aug 14, 2016 16:56:31 GMT
Strange Paradise (Meanwhile, in the Caribbean...)1969 - Strange Paradise 1 to 65 - The Damned Isle of Maljardin 1970 - Strange Paradise 66 to 129 - Return to Desmond Hall 1970 - Strange Paradise 130 to 195 - Breaking the Curse of Death 1970 - Strange Paradise - The Audio Dramas Wait... what? There are Strange Paradise Audio Dramas? Mind blown. They aren't "official", and come out rather slowly, but they're decent and I thought I'd include them for the hell of it. thedramapod.com/component/muscol/C/32-rachel-cavic/9-strange-paradiseOn that note, are there any Dark Shadows fan audios? The Night Whispers is set in the 90s isn't it? I know that's when it's officially set, but the year's not given in the audio itself, and it works as a very nice follow up to The Devil Cat and soft lead-in to the full-casts. Angey's dead, Barnabas is cured, mysterious voice talking of the darkness and trials to come, etc, etc...
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Post by barnabaslives on Aug 14, 2016 23:17:12 GMT
Which brings us to Violet. Ah... Violet. At the time, I had precisely no idea why she was a big deal. But, now, I understand the significance of the Chavez name. Now, again, WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO AMY? OR LELA?? OR BURKE??? AAAARGH! Heheheheh Which werewolf had a midnight snack, you mean? One lovable but lycanthrophic youngster soon discovers that if you salt them, people taste like bacon - and Nicholas Blair probably told him so.
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 4, 2016 1:40:26 GMT
Dark Shadows: The Original Series (Part 1: Victoria Winters & The Vampire)1966 - Dark Shadows 1 to 122 - Victoria Winters 1967 - Dark Shadows 123 to 192 - Laura the Phoenix 1967 - Dark Shadows 193 to 276 - Barnabas the Vampire 1967 - Dramatic Reading 03 - Clothes Of Sand 1967 - Dark Shadows 277 to 290 - Barnabas the Vampire 1967 - Dark Shadows 291 to 329 - Barnabas' Cure 1967 - Dramatic Reading 08 - Echoes Of Insanity 1967 - Dark Shadows 330 to 365 - Barnabas' Cure 1967 - Dark Shadows 365 to 462 - 1795 1968 - Dark Shadows 463 to 636 - Adam & Eve 1968 - Dark Shadows 637 to 700 - The Werewolf Making some adjustments, as I get further into the show proper. I think the placement for Clothes of Sand is good, but I want to move Echoes of Insanity to sometime after the 1795 arc so that Angelique still makes her initial appearance in the show as a person of the past. I know that, given my listen/watch order, we meet her in BF's Angelique's Descent, but she's still primarily a creature of the past at this point, and I want to preserve the "surprise" of her coming back. Where's a good place post-1795 to place Echoes then? Would just prior to his returning to the show in episode 484 be a good spot? Or, crap, "Cassandra" shows up way before that, doesn't she? Maybe just before Vicki buys the painting of Angelique? Between 462 & 463? (So, concurrently with Dreams of the Dark heheh, would explain why Julia's not around in the novel.)
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Post by barnabaslives on Nov 4, 2016 3:55:12 GMT
Not sure but I think there may be a continuity gap of some kind between 462 & 463 where Echoes of Insanity might indeed fit into, or else maybe it taking place roughly simultaneous with 462-463 might work best if we don't want to meet Angelique prior to her dramatic introduction in 1795? (I admit to having the same preference, not sure why but it just seems right somehow).
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 4, 2016 4:05:48 GMT
462 ends with Barnabas prepping to bite Vicki and muck with her memories, and 463 begins later, with Vicki checking the graveyard for Peter's headstone, and then going into town to buy a painting. It's in this slot that the novel Dreams in the Dark roughly fits, ironing out the memory issues and seeding Angelique's return, so setting Echoes right before Dreams in the gap would/could kind of seed Angelique's scheme in Dreams of the Dark, if you squint a bit.
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Post by Zagreus on Feb 11, 2017 18:26:36 GMT
So.... does Final Judgement occur post-1795 or post-1840?
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Post by omega on Feb 11, 2017 21:18:11 GMT
So.... does Final Judgement occur post-1795 or post-1840? Post 1795, since it's Josette taking Angelique to court in the underworld.
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