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Post by omega on Feb 18, 2018 23:01:21 GMT
Maybe travelling back in time will be illegal, but travelling forward in time will be allowed. Why would travelling forward in time be allowed? What if someone brought back knowledge of future events, from the trivial such as sporting results or lottery numbers, to technology that we don't yet have knowledge of. And would that cause a bootstrap Paradox, where the developments only come about because the information was introduced from the future? Chicken and egg, or Beethoven as the Twelfth Doctor suggests in Under the Lake.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 18, 2018 23:10:35 GMT
Maybe travelling back in time will be illegal, but travelling forward in time will be allowed. Why would travelling forward in time be allowed? What if someone brought back knowledge of future events, from the trivial such as sporting results or lottery numbers, to technology that we don't yet have knowledge of. Only our present time would be changed. The future is only what you make it, not set in stone.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 23:14:14 GMT
Why would travelling forward in time be allowed? What if someone brought back knowledge of future events, from the trivial such as sporting results or lottery numbers, to technology that we don't yet have knowledge of. Only our present time would be changed. The future is only what you make it, not set in stone. Eh? Where do you get that from? Firstly if the future is not set in stone what future exactly are people travelling to? Secondly if people bring back information from the future & use it in the present they are changing the future. Just as dangerous as changing the past. & it wouldn't only change our present it would change the future. For example I go forward in time a few years to find that I am homeless. So i go back & travel forward again to get the next set of lottery results & win. Then I travel forward to the time I originally travelled to in which I was homeless to find I am now wealthy in a nice house. The future has been changed not just the present time, whatever that means.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 18, 2018 23:16:56 GMT
Only our present time would be changed. The future is only what you make it, not set in stone. Eh? Where do you get that from? Firstly if the future is not set in stone what future exactly are people travelling to? Secondly if people bring back information from the future & use it in the present they are changing the future. Just as dangerous as changing the past. & it wouldn't only change our present it would change the future. For example I go forward in time a few years to find that I am homeless. So i go back & travel forward again to get the next set of lottery results & win. Then I travel forward to the time I originally travelled to in which I was homeless to find I am now wealthy in a nice house. The future has been changed not just the present time, whatever that means. A potential future. Doc Brown tells Marty McFly in Back To The Future Part 3 'The future is what you make it, so make it a good one'.
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Post by Timelord007 on Feb 19, 2018 8:14:14 GMT
My only question is can i time travel in the Deloran & stop Rian Johnson ruining Last Jedi.
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Post by omega on Feb 19, 2018 8:17:38 GMT
My only question is can i time travel in the Deloran & stop Rian Johnson ruining Last Jedi. To keep the timeline stable you'd need to put the trigger in the altered timeline to maintain the altered timeline. Otherwise you'd be flip-flopping between to two timelines, one where you want to change it and one where you don't know to keep the change. And seriously, do you want different from A New Hope or the same? You can't complain both ways.
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Post by Timelord007 on Feb 19, 2018 8:19:20 GMT
My only question is can i time travel in the Deloran & stop Rian Johnson ruining Last Jedi. To keep the timeline stable you'd need to put the trigger in the altered timeline to maintain the altered timeline. Otherwise you'd be flip-flopping between to two timelines, one where you want to change it and one where you don't know to keep the change. And seriously, do you want different from A New Hope or the same? You can't complain both ways. I want a epic entertaining Star Wars movie not the toxic turd which was Last Jedi.
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Post by omega on Feb 19, 2018 8:23:31 GMT
To keep the timeline stable you'd need to put the trigger in the altered timeline to maintain the altered timeline. Otherwise you'd be flip-flopping between to two timelines, one where you want to change it and one where you don't know to keep the change. And seriously, do you want different from A New Hope or the same? You can't complain both ways. I want a epic entertaining Star Wars movie not the toxic turd which was Last Jedi. Rewatch Empire Strikes Back or Rogue One. Look at the positive. You won't encounter Jar Jar there.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 9:30:20 GMT
Eh? Where do you get that from? Firstly if the future is not set in stone what future exactly are people travelling to? Secondly if people bring back information from the future & use it in the present they are changing the future. Just as dangerous as changing the past. & it wouldn't only change our present it would change the future. For example I go forward in time a few years to find that I am homeless. So i go back & travel forward again to get the next set of lottery results & win. Then I travel forward to the time I originally travelled to in which I was homeless to find I am now wealthy in a nice house. The future has been changed not just the present time, whatever that means. A potential future. Doc Brown tells Marty McFly in Back To The Future Part 3 'The future is what you make it, so make it a good one'. OK so you are using Back to the Future 3 as your template for the rules of time travel?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 19, 2018 10:43:46 GMT
A potential future. Doc Brown tells Marty McFly in Back To The Future Part 3 'The future is what you make it, so make it a good one'. OK so you are using Back to the Future 3 as your template for the rules of time travel? For the future, yes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 11:13:36 GMT
OK so you are using Back to the Future 3 as your template for the rules of time travel? For the future, yes. But not the past? Strange position to take I guess...
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Post by Timelord007 on Feb 19, 2018 12:49:03 GMT
I want a epic entertaining Star Wars movie not the toxic turd which was Last Jedi. Rewatch Empire Strikes Back or Rogue One. Look at the positive. You won't encounter Jar Jar there. They both had good story's, drama, emotion, Star Wars concludes with Return Of The Jedi for me, the Timothy Zahn novels are far better stories in lost opinion ROTJ.
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Post by doomlord on Feb 19, 2018 14:26:57 GMT
I see talk on paradoxes which is enough for anyone to get their head around at the best of times but when I see someone whom barely knows how the real world works and flows outside the confines of their own bedroom and counter-debating with people that display a deeper understanding of the concept of time travel, that is the perplexing part of the thread for me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2018 17:42:55 GMT
OK so you are using Back to the Future 3 as your template for the rules of time travel? For the future, yes. Oh one more thing, but in that film it is the adventures in the past, as well as foreknowledge of the future, that leads to the so-called 'future's what you make it' theory of Doc Brown, which is of course not totally correct anyway.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 8, 2018 14:50:42 GMT
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Post by Ela on Mar 8, 2018 15:49:25 GMT
From another reliable source.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2018 16:30:18 GMT
Well by the looks of things it appears all the nonsense about population growth & food shortage in the future won't come true! Hahahahaha!
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Post by randomjc on Mar 8, 2018 16:59:28 GMT
I still think that Sern guy was pretty spot on.
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Post by jasonward on Mar 8, 2018 17:16:55 GMT
I still think that time travel is impossible for the reason that it's not already available to us.
It all comes down to probability.
If time travel was possible, someone would have come back to today (any day), if one person came back to today, then lots would have done so, the future (especially one with time machines) has a lot more people in it than the current time does, we should be thick with people from our future, they should be every where, out numbering us.
With that huge number of time travellers jammed into every nook and cranny, one of them lost their time machine, or gave away the secret, meaning someone from their past got hold of it, meaning that they too could travel into the past, and they too could loose their time machine etc etc and so on and so on.
So if the future has time travel, why don't we?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 8, 2018 17:31:38 GMT
I still think that time travel is impossible for the reason that it's not already available to us. It all comes down to probability. If time travel was possible, someone would have come back to today (any day), if one person came back to today, then lots would have done so, the future (especially one with time machines) has a lot more people in it than the current time does, we should be thick with people from our future, they should be every where, out numbering us. With that huge number of time travellers jammed into every nook and cranny, one of them lost their time machine, or gave away the secret, meaning someone from their past got hold of it, meaning that they too could travel into the past, and they too could loose their time machine etc etc and so on and so on. So if the future has time travel, why don't we? Intervention rules perhaps. Disguises. Invisibility. Any number of reasons.
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