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Post by sherlock on Oct 14, 2020 13:07:47 GMT
Shadow of the Daleks 1 has been added to the Prelude. I’ve only heard the first episode, but I’m guessing it’s pretty vague about Time War involvement (given the whole premise is the mysterious influence of the Daleks)? If it gets more explicit, I might add it to the main saga.
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Post by mark687 on Oct 14, 2020 13:23:47 GMT
Shadow of the Daleks 1 has been added to the Prelude. I’ve only heard the first episode, but I’m guessing it’s pretty vague about Time War involvement (given the whole premise is the mysterious influence of the Daleks)? If it gets more explicit, I might add it to the main saga. I'd agree with that. EP 3 Bookshop at the End of the World has the most explicit reference Regards mark687
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Post by jahawk2009 on Oct 28, 2020 15:23:51 GMT
Interested to hear people's thoughts on Hearts of Darkness. There's a direct reference by the Master to the reincarnation of Rassilon in a flashback scene, which places the flashback scene as well as the bulk of the story after Gallifrey TW1, but that doesn't fit with Only the Good 2-3 being a direct continuation of Devil You Know from GTW1, unless they're creating a gap between the two.
The other possibility is that I've misinterpreted the Rassilon mention and it's placed between Rage of the Time-Lords and Anti-Genesis (as AG leads directly into Beneath the Viscous if I remember rightly)
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Post by sherlock on Oct 28, 2020 15:34:17 GMT
Interested to hear people's thoughts on Hearts of Darkness. There's a direct reference by the Master to the reincarnation of Rassilon in a flashback scene, which places the flashback scene as well as the bulk of the story after Gallifrey TW1, but that doesn't fit with Only the Good 2-3 being a direct continuation of Devil You Know from GTW1, unless they're creating a gap between the two. The other possibility is that I've misinterpreted the Rassilon mention and it's placed between Rage of the Time-Lords and Anti-Genesis (as AG leads directly into Beneath the Viscous if I remember rightly) I haven’t listened to it myself but it’s worth noting that Titan’s Eleventh Doctor strips introduced an incarnation of the Master who fought in the War Doctor’s era and regenerated into Jacobi’s Master. So despite Jacobi’s Master interacting with early Time War Time Lords, he’s actually experienced later points in the War already (if you take Titan into account).
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Post by jahawk2009 on Oct 28, 2020 15:37:59 GMT
Interested to hear people's thoughts on Hearts of Darkness. There's a direct reference by the Master to the reincarnation of Rassilon in a flashback scene, which places the flashback scene as well as the bulk of the story after Gallifrey TW1, but that doesn't fit with Only the Good 2-3 being a direct continuation of Devil You Know from GTW1, unless they're creating a gap between the two. The other possibility is that I've misinterpreted the Rassilon mention and it's placed between Rage of the Time-Lords and Anti-Genesis (as AG leads directly into Beneath the Viscous if I remember rightly) I haven’t listened to it myself but it’s worth noting that Titan’s Eleventh Doctor strips introduced an incarnation of the Master who fought in the War Doctor’s era and regenerated into Jacobi’s Master. So despite Jacobi’s Master interacting with early Time War Time Lords, he’s actually experienced later points in the War already (if you take Titan into account). That's interesting - I wasn't actually aware of that. How confusing 😂
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Post by theillusiveman on Oct 28, 2020 15:49:17 GMT
I Thought Hearts of Darkness was a prequel To Rage of The Time Lords hence why 8 forgets This incarnation of The Master entirely to line up with Utopia
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Post by jahawk2009 on Oct 28, 2020 15:50:34 GMT
I Thought Hearts of Darkness was a prequel To Rage of The Time Lords hence why 8 forgets This incarnation of The Master entirely to line up with Utopia Hmm that could work. But in Rage I don't think he recognises this incarnation of the Master? Or am I misremembering
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Post by x2magneto on Oct 28, 2020 15:55:39 GMT
I Thought Hearts of Darkness was a prequel To Rage of The Time Lords hence why 8 forgets This incarnation of The Master entirely to line up with Utopia Hmm that could work. But in Rage I don't think he recognises this incarnation of the Master? Or am I misremembering Listened to Rage recently. 8 doesn't know who he is. He mentions that whoever Master(who wants him to guess) is, he could be one of 12 people that he knows, I think. After he finds out, the info is erased in the final moments of the final story.
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Post by jahawk2009 on Oct 28, 2020 15:57:41 GMT
Hmm that could work. But in Rage I don't think he recognises this incarnation of the Master? Or am I misremembering Listened to Rage recently. 8 doesn't know who he is. He mentions that whoever Master(who wants him to guess) is, he could be one of 12 people that he knows, I think. After he finds out, the info is erased in the final moments of the final story. I thought so! Rage is a closed loop. This could be before or after, but if before would require yet another 8/War Master mindwipe scenario
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Post by sherlock on Oct 28, 2020 16:00:06 GMT
I’ve added Hearts of Darkness to Act 2, inbetween Cyber-Reality and Anti-Genesis.
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