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Post by omega on Apr 5, 2018 23:10:00 GMT
There's an episode of Stargate Atlantis where due to a teleport incident McKay ends up with one of the female military personnel's personalities in his head, so basically he's got a woman in his head with a running commentary on everything he says and does (naturally he's got a date she has to help him with, good thing it's with the expedition psychiatrist). The objective of the episode is to restore Cadman's personality back to her own body by fixing the Wraith dart that caused the problem to begin with. It'd be like this for the Twelve, but in reverse and up to eleven, pun unintended. She's not only got eleven previous personalities vying for their say, but they're male personalities, and she's now in a female form. The early days must been a nightmare.
An interesting idea for the Eleven and/or Twelve might be that the personalities of the different incarnations get split into their own physical forms, with something like Black Kryptonite. Has the Eleven become so dependent on keeping his previous personalities in check that their absence would take him over the edge? And would the fate of the universe rely on all of them joining back into one?
I'd be more interested in the earliest days.Stick the Two against the first or second Doctor. a true split personality and an early adventures esque story wold let them play to the style of madness that actors tend to use back then. I think it could be pretty interesting tbh. Plus each incarnation is supposed to be a reflection of the Doctor's official incarnation, twisted by ambition and then madness. Playing Tom Baker off a warped reflection of the Fourth Doctor has a lot of potential.
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Post by mark687 on Apr 5, 2018 23:21:34 GMT
Yes but we're talking about the future of a character who appears in Ravenous as well which is a past event for them and still a future event for the audience. The Regeneration would've been a good ending to a Ravenous Boxset with no heads up.
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Eight's future has been defined by the Time War and the revival series since 2005 and since 2013, his future has been defined by The Night of The Doctor and The Day of The Doctor. It doesn't hurt to add or play with that or put pieces on the board where we quite know how they are going to line up, though. I know I'm talking about the Eleven/ Twelfth character's future not the Doctor's. Now having been told about it I will be annoyed if that regeneration occurs off-stage as it were.
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Post by omega on Apr 5, 2018 23:37:33 GMT
Eight's future has been defined by the Time War and the revival series since 2005 and since 2013, his future has been defined by The Night of The Doctor and The Day of The Doctor. It doesn't hurt to add or play with that or put pieces on the board where we quite know how they are going to line up, though. I know I'm talking about the Eleven/ Twelfth character's future not the Doctor's. Now having been told about it I will be annoyed if that regeneration occurs off-stage as it were.
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Not everything needs to happen on-mike, and not everything with the Eleven has to have the Doctor involved. I think not showing his regeneration into the Twelve would be interesting, and put in contradictory teases as to how it happened from the various incarnations, or at least how they interpreted events. Eleven versions of events. That's the ultimate form of unreliable narrator, and listeners can choose what they like best.
Of course showing the early days of the Twelve is a must, and it'd also show how the distinct personalities of the Eleven developed when in the presence of all their previous selves. A Short Trip featuring the Eleven could be really cool, with the other personalities butting in. If there is a depiction of the regeneration, doing it Rashemon style from the perspectives of the various incarnations would be brilliant. Like the X-Files episode Jose Chung's From Outer Space but up to eleven. By the end you're better informed but no closer to understanding what really happened. It's the closest thing to a C'rizz Short Trip or Companion Chronicle we're going to get.
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Post by Digi on Apr 5, 2018 23:38:40 GMT
Eight's future has been defined by the Time War and the revival series since 2005 and since 2013, his future has been defined by The Night of The Doctor and The Day of The Doctor. It doesn't hurt to add or play with that or put pieces on the board where we quite know how they are going to line up, though. I know I'm talking about the Eleven/ Twelfth character's future not the Doctor's. Now having been told about it I will be annoyed if that regeneration occurs off-stage as it were.
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The way they've been stitching together the Eight/Eight Time War/War Doctor eras, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the Eleven regenerates into the Twelve in the closing seconds of a Ravenous episode in which he appears to be mortally wounded.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Apr 5, 2018 23:54:24 GMT
I know I'm talking about the Eleven/ Twelfth character's future not the Doctor's. Now having been told about it I will be annoyed if that regeneration occurs off-stage as it were.
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The way they've been stitching together the Eight/Eight Time War/War Doctor eras, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the Eleven regenerates into the Twelve in the closing seconds of a Ravenous episode in which he appears to be mortally wounded. I don't know why they would feel the need to. Two different strands for the 8th Doctor could easily continue to have one feature the 11 and the other feature the 12. I do find it kind of interesting that after 18 years it looks like BF has hit on the baddie for the 8th Doctor.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 23:55:07 GMT
I know I'm talking about the Eleven/ Twelfth character's future not the Doctor's. Now having been told about it I will be annoyed if that regeneration occurs off-stage as it were.
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The way they've been stitching together the Eight/Eight Time War/War Doctor eras, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the Eleven regenerates into the Twelve in the closing seconds of a Ravenous episode in which he appears to be mortally wounded. I think we're probably getting Mark Bonar in some capacity for the long haul. You don't have an actor with a presence like that and not use him, especially when Eleven's story is no longer defined by Doom Coalition. He's become (as Omega said) the embodiment of the Eighth Doctor era. I think it's more likely either at some point, he'll be thought dead and wounded, but either inhibited or refusing to regenerate, biding his time to strike agasint The Doctor.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Apr 6, 2018 11:14:00 GMT
Just have the 11 turn into the 12 in a Gallifrey: Time War box set lol
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Post by mark687 on Apr 6, 2018 11:25:30 GMT
Just have the 11 turn into the 12 in a Gallifrey: Time War box set lol Whiskey!!
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Apr 6, 2018 11:31:09 GMT
Just have the 11 turn into the 12 in a Gallifrey: Time War box set lol Whiskey!!
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MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by escalus5 on Apr 6, 2018 14:12:58 GMT
Honestly, I think Eight has had stronger villains (MacQueen's Master and the Meddling Monk, to name two). Although I admire Bonnar's performance, I find the multiple personality gimmick to be tiresome and a bit aggravating to listen to, since the sound mix seems to be all over the place depending on the voice. I would have rather Ravenous featured a new villain to distinguish it from Doom Coalition.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 15:22:12 GMT
Honestly, I think Eight has had stronger villains (MacQueen's Master and the Meddling Monk, to name two). Although I admire Bonnar's performance, I find the multiple personality gimmick to be tiresome and a bit aggravating to listen to, since the sound mix seems to be all over the place depending on the voice. I would have rather Ravenous featured a new villain to distinguish it from Doom Coalition. That's probably going to be the case what with the Kandyman returning and the name being "Ravenous". I think they're introducing the Twelve personally to show that this is a while in the Doctor's future, long after Doom Coalition, so maybe Bonnar will regenerate into McKenzie in Ravenous but I'd say he won't as Dorney and Fitton have insisted in the past there's several years left in Eight before the Time War after Doom Coalition.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Apr 6, 2018 16:02:01 GMT
Honestly, I think Eight has had stronger villains (MacQueen's Master and the Meddling Monk, to name two). Although I admire Bonnar's performance, I find the multiple personality gimmick to be tiresome and a bit aggravating to listen to, since the sound mix seems to be all over the place depending on the voice. I would have rather Ravenous featured a new villain to distinguish it from Doom Coalition. That's probably going to be the case what with the Kandyman returning and the name being "Ravenous". I think they're introducing the Twelve personally to show that this is a while in the Doctor's future, long after Doom Coalition, so maybe Bonnar will regenerate into McKenzie in Ravenous but I'd say he won't as Dorney and Fitton have insisted in the past there's several years left in Eight before the Time War after Doom Coalition. I think it was said in Vortex that the set being called Ravenous and the Kandyman being in it is actually a coincidence, which is interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 13:57:03 GMT
That's probably going to be the case what with the Kandyman returning and the name being "Ravenous". I think they're introducing the Twelve personally to show that this is a while in the Doctor's future, long after Doom Coalition, so maybe Bonnar will regenerate into McKenzie in Ravenous but I'd say he won't as Dorney and Fitton have insisted in the past there's several years left in Eight before the Time War after Doom Coalition. I think it was said in Vortex that the set being called Ravenous and the Kandyman being in it is actually a coincidence, which is interesting. Yeah, I read that somewhere. Could be interesting how they develop it from that point on if they don't use him.
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Post by omega on Apr 7, 2018 23:06:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2018 13:32:55 GMT
"I must have been the most evil man in the whole universe" Gotta' love McGann
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Post by omega on Apr 19, 2018 8:49:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2018 8:55:50 GMT
They’ve redecorated....i dont like it.
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Post by denyer97 on Apr 19, 2018 9:19:28 GMT
I love the logo on these covers. Somehow it makes it look so much more epic I can’t really describe it. But after the disappointing Time War 1 artwork which I felt looked quite cheap, this is a huge step up. I think the new logo works really well on Iron Bright as well! Amazing work Tom Webster and the rest of the BF artwork team!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2018 9:40:58 GMT
Oh, it's gorgeous, it shows off the horror of the Time War and the chillingly finality of all it all is great, love Twelve's evil Granny look, but.....
I think the 'boxed in' format worked better in making it appear to customers in a shop or elsewhere comparable to a DVD/Blu-Ray, the return to the open look for the new logo....less so. I can see people staring at it a quick glance in a bookstore or speciality shop and assuming it's an audiobook or some such given the nature of the cover and be less inclined. There's no easy solution with a cover like this, either. The side bar (and the look of the box sets) was one of the best changes that was brought in under Nick Briggs.
I know this is out of Big Finish's control, but I'm really hoping they'll slap a byline like 'The original series continues in full-cast drama' or some such. I want Big Finish and Titan to look relevant to the revival series and I love the new logo, but the look is just wrong for the non-DVD/Blu-Ray releases.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Apr 19, 2018 10:05:53 GMT
Oh God it’s horrible. The yellow logo looks really tacky and detracts from the artwork. Oh well.
It’s alright on the MR cover though and even better swapped around for the Sixth Doctor logo.
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