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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 23:37:39 GMT
Hey everyone,
How would you like a 'last' Seventh Doctor tale to play out?
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Post by omega on Nov 7, 2015 23:47:15 GMT
Do you mean like what he gets up to right before collecting the Master's remains and winding up in San Francisco? There's a nice idea in the audio Persuasion where the Seventh Doctor, at the end of his life, decides to deal with the nasties out in the universe before he regenerates in case his next incarnation isn't able to do the same. So he might be cleaning up his messes and tying off loose ends so that they don't end up tangling the Eighth Doctor.
Some audios set during this period have him in a quieter, more reflective mood. He's wandering more often, not always planning his destination as much. One thing is for sure, he's lost enough of his touch to forget to check the scanner before leaving the TARDIS!
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Post by david on Nov 8, 2015 0:40:31 GMT
Didn't The Eleven in Doom Coalition imply that capturing the titular villain was the last thing McCoy's Doctor did? There's a line about him being called to the President to help with a final request. I can only imagine that's Romana telling him about the Master's remains.
So, maybe some big story where he battles The Eleven followed by the perils of having to get to Skaro to pick up the remains (I don't know if they could reference the TV Movie opening though)
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Nov 8, 2015 3:26:57 GMT
I'd like it to be him finally putting the grim "Time's Champion" to bed, ready for the eighth Doctor to be free of his past.
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Post by omega on Nov 8, 2015 8:54:11 GMT
Didn't The Eleven in Doom Coalition imply that capturing the titular villain was the last thing McCoy's Doctor did? There's a line about him being called to the President to help with a final request. I can only imagine that's Romana telling him about the Master's remains. So, maybe some big story where he battles The Eleven followed by the perils of having to get to Skaro to pick up the remains (I don't know if they could reference the TV Movie opening though) I'd like it to be him finally putting the grim "Time's Champion" to bed, ready for the eighth Doctor to be free of his past. Isn't that Lungbarrow? The Seventh Doctor exorcising his demons (a process that progressed in the previous novel The Room With No Doors) and Romana tasking him with retrieving the Master's remains?
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Post by mbt66 on Nov 8, 2015 11:35:29 GMT
Didn't The Eleven in Doom Coalition imply that capturing the titular villain was the last thing McCoy's Doctor did? There's a line about him being called to the President to help with a final request. I can only imagine that's Romana telling him about the Master's remains. So, maybe some big story where he battles The Eleven followed by the perils of having to get to Skaro to pick up the remains (I don't know if they could reference the TV Movie opening though) Yes I had the exact same thought at the start of Doom Coalition! I too hope that we get both of these two stories and a whole host of adventures that could make up a final series for the Seventh Doctor. Now that is what I would like to see in the main range - seven releases back-to-back (September through to March the following year) with the Doctor knowingly heading towards his final fate. With Death Collectors, Romana, CIAce, the Master and the Eleven all in the mix and perhaps even Death herself. On the old forum I pointed to the movie Final Destination as inspiration- with the Doctor trying to cheat Death for both himself and the Master.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Nov 9, 2015 1:31:46 GMT
Didn't The Eleven in Doom Coalition imply that capturing the titular villain was the last thing McCoy's Doctor did? There's a line about him being called to the President to help with a final request. I can only imagine that's Romana telling him about the Master's remains. So, maybe some big story where he battles The Eleven followed by the perils of having to get to Skaro to pick up the remains (I don't know if they could reference the TV Movie opening though) I'd like it to be him finally putting the grim "Time's Champion" to bed, ready for the eighth Doctor to be free of his past. Isn't that Lungbarrow? The Seventh Doctor exorcising his demons (a process that progressed in the previous novel The Room With No Doors) and Romana tasking him with retrieving the Master's remains? I never actually made it through Lungbarrow.
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Post by seeley on Nov 9, 2015 1:51:59 GMT
For my part, I don't see the burning need for a "Seventh Doctor-The Final Adventure." Unlike Collin Baker, McCoy got a proper sendoff. It feels a bit like saying "Well, wasn't Hartnell's departure just grafted on? Let's make a story set in the middle of the 10th Planet, where the 1st Doctor is taken out of time by the Celestial Toymaker, culminating in our hero sacrificing his vitality for the greater good!" If you want to, cool, but it's not filling some glaring gap. That said, were this to be done, I'd want Big Finish to explore the tail-end of Seventh's life a bit more beforehand. They've done several stories from that period, but there was a conscious effort to keep listeners in the dark about background to it. I never actually made it through Lungbarrow. Well, if you've still got the copy, I'll happily take it off your hands.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Nov 9, 2015 13:31:06 GMT
Isn't that Lungbarrow? The Seventh Doctor exorcising his demons (a process that progressed in the previous novel The Room With No Doors) and Romana tasking him with retrieving the Master's remains? Big Finish kind of changed it, because his Tardis is changing into the TV Movie version at the end of Lungbarrow, but doesn't complete that change until the start of Excelis Decays. So Lungbarrow has sort of been shunted backwards in the timeline
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Post by zurge on Nov 10, 2015 14:59:04 GMT
Quite honestly, I would like to see BF give The Seventh Doctor a true motive for being the more mysterious, manipulative version of The Doctor. There have been hints and subtleties, but I've never really encountered a solid explanation to his motive for being a proactive versus an oftentimes reactive Doctor. If BF were to do a final lead-in story to the TV Movie, I would love for them to provide that explanation, possibly as The Seventh Doctor reflects back on all he's done during his time.
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Post by Bazoolium on Nov 10, 2015 17:56:04 GMT
This would be great. Hopefully giving McCoy another chance to act against Geoffrey Beevers, Master still remains one of my favourite plays.
Having Romana getting involved and sending him to finally deal with the Master would be very interesting. Having seen the 7th Doctor capture The Eleven, The Master seems like he would be next on the list. Also having a Doctor interact with President Romana would be lots of fun, not sure I've heard that since Neverland.
I'd like for Ace to finally have a leaving story, something that gives her a finite ending, not like Peri and the Piscon Paradox. Even if it is setting up A Charitable Earth, although I've always liked the idea that that was just one of the Doctor's schemes during an adventure. That might warrant its own boxset though.
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Post by seeley on Nov 10, 2015 19:46:00 GMT
Quite honestly, I would like to see BF give The Seventh Doctor a true motive for being the more mysterious, manipulative version of The Doctor. There have been hints and subtleties, but I've never really encountered a solid explanation to his motive for being a proactive versus an oftentimes reactive Doctor. If BF were to do a final lead-in story to the TV Movie, I would love for them to provide that explanation, possibly as The Seventh Doctor reflects back on all he's done during his time. The TV show already did that to some degree, with the Doctor revealing that he recognized Fenric's meddling as far back as Iceworld. I believe that the New Adventures, in addition to picking up that bit, introduced the idea that the Seventh Doctor was born to be the Champion of the Eternal (and member of the Gallifreyan pantheon) Time. For a more philosophical, psychological explanation/defense, see Big Finish's own Death in the Family.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 11, 2015 20:13:29 GMT
For my part, I don't see the burning need for a "Seventh Doctor-The Final Adventure." Unlike Collin Baker, McCoy got a proper sendoff. It feels a bit like saying "Well, wasn't Hartnell's departure just grafted on? Let's make a story set in the middle of the 10th Planet, where the 1st Doctor is taken out of time by the Celestial Toymaker, culminating in our hero sacrificing his vitality for the greater good!" If you want to, cool, but it's not filling some glaring gap. I agree. The Seventh Doctor got his regeneration story. Showing what he was up too right before the TV Movie wouldn't really be any different then doing a story right before Planet of the Spiders or The End of Time. I think Peri and the Piscon Paradox actually led right into Caves of Androzani, but nobody talks about that as if it is Five's sendoff or something. Unlike the Sixth Doctor, they couldn't even have a potential Seventh Doctor story lead right into the regeneration, because Seven's regeneration occurred well after the TV Movie started, and we know exactly what caused his regeneration.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 21:45:46 GMT
I thought the TVM was seven's last tale?!
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