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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2018 21:34:06 GMT
Apologies if there already is a thread but I couldn't find one.
Finally it is back in a few hours from now!
So here's a recap of S1.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 1:39:46 GMT
Looks like Dolores is going to go to some dark places this series. Is Maeve the true protraganist of the series?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 6:51:22 GMT
Amended title to reflect/warn that spoilers are allowed in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 19:07:41 GMT
Well it's back setting the scene for things to come. Who's side is Bernarnold on? Is Maeve just following her programming? Is William the only human happy about what's happening! & will we find out what that new Host was being created in secret?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2018 19:36:10 GMT
Lovely first ep. I always love the pacing of Westworld, so unafraid to let moments breathe and refuse to go over the top in it's plotting.
After the Man In Black/William dual timelines last season I think we may see that again this year with that 2 week period leading up to the hosts laying dead in the bay. James Marsden is dead in the present yet he's still with Dolores for much of the episode set in the previous two weeks.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Apr 23, 2018 21:12:40 GMT
I think the central theme of this season is going to be “we are who we choose to be”, we’ll see it played out through William/The Man in Black, Delores/Wyatt and Bernard/Arnold. I think it’s interesting that Maeve still possesses command codes that do work to lock down Hosts (even ones that have gone Rampant), none of the humans do. As for the drowned hosts .... Bernard said something about Hosts sharing a communal mind, just enough to stop thrm from interfering with each other’s storyline, I think he used that to convince them the Lake was actually a valley and they all walked into it and drowned.
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Post by Jeedai on Apr 23, 2018 22:31:57 GMT
Bernard said something about Hosts sharing a communal mind, just enough to stop thrm from interfering with each other’s storyline, I think he used that to convince them the Lake was actually a valley and they all walked into it and drowned. Someone at the 'sea' said there wasn't supposed to be so much water at that location. So even if Bernard did use the communal mind to get all the hosts to that location, the water had to come from somewhere. Given the washed-up tiger my guess is Shogunworld. And if the massacre-by-flood was deliberate, my bet would be on Hale causing it. Bernard told her about the communal mind, so she could take advantage of it too. And she's made it clear her priority is requiring Peter so she can finish her mission and be rescued. All the other hosts are expendable to her. Plus she's notably absent in the present. A falling out with Bernard, maybe? Or maybe she figured out what he really is? Their separation and the flood could be related.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Apr 24, 2018 1:21:03 GMT
Bernard said something about Hosts sharing a communal mind, just enough to stop thrm from interfering with each other’s storyline, I think he used that to convince them the Lake was actually a valley and they all walked into it and drowned. Someone at the 'sea' said there wasn't supposed to be so much water at that location. So even if Bernard did use the communal mind to get all the hosts to that location, the water had to come from somewhere. Given the washed-up tiger my guess is Shogunworld. And if the massacre-by-flood was deliberate, my bet would be on Hale causing it. Bernard told her about the communal mind, so she could take advantage of it too. And she's made it clear her priority is requiring Peter so she can finish her mission and be rescued. All the other hosts are expendable to her. Plus she's notably absent in the present. A falling out with Bernard, maybe? Or maybe she figured out what he really is? Their separation and the flood could be related. Bernard did have flashes of memory of his firing a P90, unless it was another Host’s memories he was involved in some nasty stuff.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 21:07:07 GMT
Another great episode. Loving the flashbacks to the history of the park & William.
What were they planning? Data theft from park attendees? DNA theft?
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 1, 2018 21:51:03 GMT
The current implication is that Delos is collecting blackmail material.... however there’s a subtext to William and old man Delos’ conversation about something getting close to completion but Delos not having a lot of time - my interpretation is he’s dying and William is working on putting human brains in Host bodies.
However here’s a thought - are Maeve and Delores/Wyatt really off script? Because last year the techie who was working on/with Maeve said there was a lot of extra code already in her, and things like she’s been programmed to not leave the park but rather go after her daughter. And loe and behold here she is, going after her daughter. Wyatt was a full scripted character, just waiting to be uploaded into a Host and one programmed to kill humans. A revolutionary programmed to kill humans, kills humans and launches a revolution.
I think it’s all Ford trying to do what Arnold did and create an awakened Host in Maeve, and with Wyatt see if he can shackle an awakened Host (Delores).
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 22:20:33 GMT
The current implication is that Delos is collecting blackmail material.... however there’s a subtext to William and old man Delos’ conversation about something getting close to completion but Delos not having a lot of time - my interpretation is he’s dying and William is working on putting human brains in Host bodies. However here’s a thought - are Maeve and Delores/Wyatt really off script? Because last year the techie who was working on/with Maeve said there was a lot of extra code already in her, and things like she’s been programmed to not leave the park but rather go after her daughter. And loe and behold here she is, going after her daughter. Wyatt was a full scripted character, just waiting to be uploaded into a Host and one programmed to kill humans. A revolutionary programmed to kill humans, kills humans and launches a revolution. I think it’s all Ford trying to do what Arnold did and create an awakened Host in Maeve, and with Wyatt see if he can shackle an awakened Host (Delores). Yes. Something more is going on. Ultimately it may come down to Delores v Maeve
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 1, 2018 23:39:11 GMT
The current implication is that Delos is collecting blackmail material.... however there’s a subtext to William and old man Delos’ conversation about something getting close to completion but Delos not having a lot of time - my interpretation is he’s dying and William is working on putting human brains in Host bodies. However here’s a thought - are Maeve and Delores/Wyatt really off script? Because last year the techie who was working on/with Maeve said there was a lot of extra code already in her, and things like she’s been programmed to not leave the park but rather go after her daughter. And loe and behold here she is, going after her daughter. Wyatt was a full scripted character, just waiting to be uploaded into a Host and one programmed to kill humans. A revolutionary programmed to kill humans, kills humans and launches a revolution. I think it’s all Ford trying to do what Arnold did and create an awakened Host in Maeve, and with Wyatt see if he can shackle an awakened Host (Delores). Yes. Something more is going on. Ultimately it may come down to Delores v Maeve I’m thinking it might even be “Delores versus Wyatt”.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 17:02:45 GMT
Its becoming more ambiguous now as to whether Delores or any of the 'free' hosts are thinking independently or still following their programming. Maybe Teddy is. Will Delores end up killing him?
& now we have been introduced to 'Rajworld' (sitar version of Seven Nation Army!) alongside ShogunWorld. I wonder how many worlds there are?
Has Bernard downloaded the data from Abernathy into himself?
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Post by Jeedai on May 9, 2018 4:52:38 GMT
Looks like I was wrong about where the tiger came from... Has Bernard downloaded the data from Abernathy into himself? My guess is no. He's already malfunctioning, and the data is clearly having a bad effect on Abernathy.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2018 18:36:51 GMT
Wow. What a fantastic episode. Peter Mullan was amazing as Delos.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 19, 2018 9:04:12 GMT
Has Bernard downloaded the data from Abernathy into himself? I think the opposite is true, Bernard DELETED the data from Peter Abernathy.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 19, 2018 9:05:56 GMT
Its becoming more ambiguous now as to whether Delores or any of the 'free' hosts are thinking independently or still following their programming. Maybe Teddy is. Will Delores end up killing him? One of the drowned hosts DOES look like Teddy. Teddy does seem to be following Wyatt because he’s programmed to protect Delores.
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Post by Jeedai on Jun 6, 2018 0:29:54 GMT
So the ulterior motive for the looping host story-lines is to data-mine the guests' thinking processes based upon their choices with the hosts acting as a control factor. Which probably means that William is the single most data-mined individual in the park's collection, given all the time he's spent there and everything he's done trying to mess with the loops. I wonder what effect this has on the game Ford is playing with him.
Perhaps William is currently the most likely to survive being uploaded into a copy (unlike his father-in-law), because his host core would have that much more information to work from?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 16:46:32 GMT
Caught up on the last couple episodes. Really enjoying it & where it is going now. Kiksuya was a fantastic episode. So now we know that the true hero of the story is not Delores (who is quickly becoming the villain) but Akecheta. & we now know how all those images of the map got spread around Westworld.
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Post by andrewmcg on Jun 15, 2018 9:57:05 GMT
Kiksuya. Wow. What an absolutely stunning hour of television, with a stunning performance from Zahn McClarnon.
Even better than The Riddle of the Sphinx, and I didn't think that could be topped.
After a couple of over-complicated episodes, this one puts Westworld straight back into the highest class of TV drama quality. Bring on the finale!
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