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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 18:21:39 GMT
I know this has been discussed before but with the limited physical run of class and ranges like big finish originals being purely on download, what do we think is the future of physical big finish products? I still much prefer pysical (mainly because i feel like at least if i ever want to, i can make some money back on pysical cds i buy-downloads are useless on that front) but there are more and more occasions where i am buying digital copies. For example, for the 50-100 releases, i do not see the point in spending £7.25 when i can buy it for £2.99. The difference is too great to justify. Theres still many ocasions where i am buying pysical over download only but i feel that will only decrease as time goes on and i imagine this is the same for many others. So i guess my question is, would people accept no pysical releases? Has anybody changed from cd to download? Would you stop listening to big finish if they stopped pysical releases? Im genuinly curious how opinions have changed over the years as digital seems to be the direction the world is going in and what (a select) number of the big finish listener base think of the changes.
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Post by ljwilson on Jun 1, 2018 19:34:25 GMT
I know this has been discussed before but with the limited physical run of class and ranges like big finish originals being purely on download, what do we think is the future of physical big finish products? I still much prefer pysical (mainly because i feel like at least if i ever want to, i can make some money back on pysical cds i buy-downloads are useless on that front) but there are more and more occasions where i am buying digital copies. For example, for the 50-100 releases, i do not see the point in spending £7.25 when i can buy it for £2.99. The difference is too great to justify. Theres still many ocasions where i am buying pysical over download only but i feel that will only decrease as time goes on and i imagine this is the same for many others. So i guess my question is, would people accept no pysical releases? Has anybody changed from cd to download? Would you stop listening to big finish if they stopped pysical releases? Im genuinly curious how opinions have changed over the years as digital seems to be the direction the world is going in and what (a select) number of the big finish listener base think of the changes. A sign of the times I think, CDs are declining and Big Finish isn't exempt from this trend. Personally, until about a year ago I was 80% CD vs 20% download, but that has probably flipped to 20/80 due to a change in circumstance...i now earn £23k a year vompared to £45k. So i am generally less well off, but much the happier for it as i know dont work 12hr days and have to drive 600 miles a week. I still love the CDs, but alas they are on the slide, just as vinyl, cassettes and videos were before them. They will inevitably make a retro comeback a la The Energy of the Daleks on blue vinyl. As I type this im led on my bed, the birds are singing away outside, my son is mocking his dad for being a closet nerd, and my Sony D-E350 is awaiting the next of 4 Big Finish CDs that i have to hand. Next up, The Darkness of Glass with a cool beer.
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Post by lidar2 on Jun 1, 2018 20:32:00 GMT
I am a cd buyer but i will eventually switch to download. I love my physical collection and, having started it, cannot bear to leave it unfinished but there are a number of factors at work.
In general terms physical media is in decline and download and streaming is rising.
The decline in cds will mean fewer are produced resulting in fewer producers and increasing diseconomies of scale forvthose that remain, thereby increasing costs and further hastening the decline.
I listen while driving. The car I bought last year has a cd player in the glove compartment. Cars before that had the cd player in the centre above the gear stick. I can easily imagine the next car i buy in a few years' time having no cd player at all, even as an optional extra. A lot of models no longer have cd players as standard.
Cds will presumably become less and less profitable for bf as sales decline gradually as a result of the above. The only mitigating factor in cds' favour is that they are a route to market for bf and can reach casual and new customers via shops.
Personally I will eventually run out of space for cds.
But for now I'll keep buying 'em as long as bf keeps making 'em.
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Post by mbt66 on Jun 1, 2018 21:33:44 GMT
I am a CD buyer. I mostly listen in the car and even bought an iPod to try and listen to downloads, but I couldn’t get it to work - so that was a waste of money. I listen to the podcast and some free downloads on my iPad at home, but I easily get distracted on that or fall asleep.
I do buy comics and books digitally, but for audios it has to be CDs. There is a difference between paying £4 for a book compared to paying £24 for an audio. I feel I want something physical for that price.
Jago & Litefoot Forever arrived this week in the post. It has sat in the front room the last few days still in its cardboard packaging. A reminder that the weekend would soon be here when I will openi it and listening to it on the home Bose player this Sunday afternoon on my birthday - you cannot get anticipation like that with a download.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jun 1, 2018 22:49:12 GMT
I started collecting cd's in 1988... I will continue to do so. the 2-3 download only releases only I have bought from BF I have burned to a blank cd and slotted into my collection.
Physical CD all the way- having said that I won't disparage any1 who is download only but I will ark up if they start a campaign to abolish physical product LOL..
and likewise if a cd person tries to stop digital only.
Both can co-incide easily
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 22:53:41 GMT
Always download!
Abolish CDs so damaging to environment!
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Post by barnabaslives on Jun 1, 2018 22:55:04 GMT
I very much hope that CDs will continue to be available for those who prefer them and who've built whole collections on the format, but I've personally been terribly disenchanted with CD medium for a long time. It seems to be almost inevitable that while re-arranging CD shelves, a handful is going to end up face down on the floor with the playable side covered in cat hair and grit with half of the case hinges broken. Occasionally one will perform the amusing feat of rolling on its side out the door and past the postman, but even more rarely than that does one actually land face up. :-)
The immense joy there used to be in perusing vinyl album liner notes while listening has been long lost to having to squint to read them and battling to get the fragile booklets in and out of their slots in the CD case in spite of years worth of practice.
I'm one of the last people in the world who would be a fan of lossy formats like mp3, but the fact that my entire Big Finish collection can fit onto a portable drive the size of my wallet (vs an entire wall covered in CD shelves, which I already have one of thanks to music), and the fact that I can back up my whole BF collection for safekeeping almost without effort or cost, have helped to made downloads irresistibly attractive nonetheless. (Big Finish have been absolutely wonderful about keeping past purchases available for re-downloading, but the more purchases the less I'd like to have to re-download them all on account of some disaster, so the ability to back up purchases becomes ever increasingly an important consideration).
I'm still often tempted by CDs - many are obviously a joy just to look at or to read, and there's the huge incentive of higher audio quality - but to be honest it's just me daydreaming, the reality is that I'd pretty much given up on the CD format out of necessity before I ever became a BF customer. Then there's the increasing trends toward instant gratification - even to me it's terribly attractive that I can start up an audio that came all the way from the other side of the world in less than an hour (even when I can't always get to them within the hour) even for as promptly as all of my CD purchases from BF have been dispatched.
Lately I'm a little disenchanted with playback devices as well. I went to replace my last CD player and somehow ended up with something 1/3 the size of the last one, with 1/5 the sound quality coming out of the speakers. Any of the clock radios I used to own 30 years ago sounded better, which sort of defeats the entire point of CDs. Next time I can spare the price of one, I'd better put on my specs and check the specs more carefully. :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 23:25:35 GMT
I go either 100% CD for a range (like Dark Eyes) or 100% DL (like for Torchwood). But usually it comes down to cost, like I mix and match a lot for MR stories. I do like owning the physical product, however.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 23:31:47 GMT
I would be sad to see the demise of the physical format. My main listening experience is through the digital downloads, but I only choose this option alone if there is a significant price differential, such as today's listeners choice at £2.99 over £8.99 with CD inclusive. Since discovering the CD and free Download most of my complimentary physical copies have remained in their wrapping, for posterity. It's easy to justify in terms of future resales, but in my heart I know I would have to be desperate (most other material things can - and do - go as needs must).
However, when purchasing just the Digital version, as a collector, I never truly feel that I have 'got' that particular release in my Doctor Who collection. For other ranges, the listening experience is all that matters, but there is a sentimental element where I feel that I am still continuing a collection I started as an 11 year old way back in 1983. That's why I still hold on to my VHS collection of Doctor Who and two working Video players (I gave away to charity of the landfill others such as the complete Blake's 7 and Star Trek TOS VHS - nearly 30 years owned - to name a few this past year when downsizing), so that they still feel relevant and provide a visual record of my collection, when the rest (Target books, DWM, collectibles) are kept safely tucked away out of dust and sunlight.
As a physical collector they are a joy to behold with the cover art and not merely a thumbnail on the screen indexing a file on my hard drive. That's why the idea of streaming content does not appeal to me as anything other than a convenient way of accessing material either already owned or only casually interested in. Like many others, I like to feel I 'own' a copy, just as fans of the Virgin New Adventures are not exactly enamoured with filling the gaps in terms of rarities with digital re-releases.
I suppose it's ingrained in us as creatures - animals such as pets also display a possessive instinct to things that attract them. Technology will not re-wire our brains so easily..
Anyway, that's just my opinion, all respect to those who value the content over materialism.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jun 2, 2018 7:52:48 GMT
Always download! Abolish CDs so damaging to environment!
Not sure if sarcasm or serious?
I can assure you I still have my cds from like 1988/89.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 10:38:39 GMT
Always download! Abolish CDs so damaging to environment!
Not sure if sarcasm or serious?
I can assure you I still have my cds from like 1988/89.
Got rid of all mine. Haven't owned a CD player in years. Everything I need is available to stream. All my music available anywhere I want to listen to it.
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Post by mbt66 on Jun 2, 2018 11:11:21 GMT
I hope that Big Finish will continue with the CDs even if it is only a limited edition option like with Class or those book format collectors editions such as the 10DAs.
I still miss the CD booklets, so if they do limit the releases I hope they appreciate who their buying market is. The download option is there for the budget option, so personally I would rather pay the extra to keep the booklets.
I am interested in several of their Originals, but with no physical purchase option I won’t be buying any of them.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jun 2, 2018 12:10:06 GMT
Not sure if sarcasm or serious?
I can assure you I still have my cds from like 1988/89.
Got rid of all mine. Haven't owned a CD player in years. Everything I need is available to stream. All my music available anywhere I want to listen to it. Fair enough.. I still have all my original 8 tracks, cassettes, cds, vinyl, videos, dvd and blu rays LOL. Plus I have a stack of HDD and media boxed and USB players to whack stuff on for when I am mobile- get the best of both worlds
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Jun 2, 2018 18:52:43 GMT
I'm for physical I only go download when I can't get a physical cd version and even then I almost always burn to cd and listen to the cd (the big exception being Benny- Many Happy Returns as I have not found a way to get that onto a disc)
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Post by ollychops on Jun 2, 2018 19:19:26 GMT
I used to buy the CDs but I’ve now run out of room so I’ve moved to download only now, aside from Limited Edition versions of releases.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jun 2, 2018 23:06:39 GMT
I've got maybe two handfuls of CDs from big finish and over 200 audios available for download whenever I want. Most of what I've got on CD has been from a sale or only available (at the time) on CD. I've made a gradual progression from physical copies to downloads but will basically buy whatever is most convenient.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jun 4, 2018 11:13:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 11:48:10 GMT
Big Finish have indeed been bucking the trend as the digital revolution has been here a long time... nothing surprises me in their announcement and it makes perfect sense for audio media in 2018.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jun 4, 2018 12:19:59 GMT
Best bookface comment I read in the last 20 mins
at a BF event. "Can you please sign a copy of my download?".... LOL!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 12:23:15 GMT
Best bookface comment I read in the last 20 mins at a BF event. "Can you please sign a copy of my download?".... LOL! In five years time there might be a market on eBay for signed copies of Vortex!
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