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Post by sherlock on Sept 25, 2019 12:22:04 GMT
Given the whole shebang over Alistair’s grandfather’s name, it’s an alternative universe to the TV series as well! Actually they retconned it all to say that the Captain is the Brigadier's Great Uncle, but also his biological grandfather. Well I never thought War of the Daleks would be challenged for the title of most unnecessarily elaborate retcon in the expanded univese, but clearly I was wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2019 12:50:59 GMT
Actually they retconned it all to say that the Captain is the Brigadier's Great Uncle, but also his biological grandfather. Well I never thought War of the Daleks would be challenged for the title of most unnecessarily elaborate retcon in the expanded univese, but clearly I was wrong. Oh, the family lineage of the Lethbridge-Stewarts is p-r-e-t-t-y interesting, even before we get into the genetically-altered super-soldiers like Kadiatu. I've a theory that, after a few thousand years, they'll eventually trickle down to the Vyons and the Kingdoms.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Sept 25, 2019 13:47:07 GMT
Yeah I think what happened was that pretty much as soon as Twice Upon a Time aired, Candy Jar stealth released a short story saying that The Captain was the Brigadier's great uncle.
Of course the BBC weren’t happy about this, as it was their intention that he was the Brigadier's grandfather.
So there was a whole drama between the BBC and Candy Jar which resulted in Candy Jar releasing another short story that revealed that the Captain had an affair with his brother’s wife (the Brig’s grandmother) making him both the Brigadier's great uncle and his grandfather.
They also reveal that the Brigadier and Sarah Jane have something of a familial connection. George Wilson, who was the first husband of Doris and raised Doris and the Brig's son Albert, is actually Sarah Jane's uncle. So I guess you could say that Sarah Jane is the Brigadier's son’s step/adopted cousin.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Sept 25, 2019 22:15:05 GMT
Candy Jar massively overstepped with that “Archibald isn’t his grandfather, his grandfather is who WE say he is because we have the permission of the Haisman and Lincoln Eatate to use him and the BBC does not” move. What the hell did they expect the BBC to do? Refilm part of Twice Upon a Time? Just ignore them? The BBC could have gone “you’re trading using one of our trademarks on your covers (“from the classic era of Doctor Who”) stop it at once” and lost not a moment’s sleep over it.
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Post by number13 on Sept 26, 2019 0:56:09 GMT
That was a fascinating read, thanks all. imo Brig canon is what we think it is from TV* and BF.
*Except for the Cyber-Brig which was disgusting and (since I'll never watch 'Death in Heaven' ever again) never happened! It's my head-canon and I'll remember whatever I like.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 1:07:14 GMT
That was a fascinating read, thanks all. imo Brig canon is what we think it is from TV* and BF. *Except for the Cyber-Brig which was disgusting and (since I'll never watch 'Death in Heaven' ever again) never happened! It's my head-canon and I'll remember whatever I like. On the subject of exeunts, do you know about a comic called Fade Away? One of Who's regular artists, Paul Hanley, wrote something of a coda for the Doctor's travels with Alistair. You can read it in full here.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Sept 26, 2019 7:19:12 GMT
That was a fascinating read, thanks all. imo Brig canon is what we think it is from TV* and BF. *Except for the Cyber-Brig which was disgusting and (since I'll never watch 'Death in Heaven' ever again) never happened! It's my head-canon and I'll remember whatever I like. On the subject of exeunts, do you know about a comic called Fade Away? One of Who's regular artists, Paul Hanley, wrote something of a coda for the Doctor's travels with Alistair. You can read it in full here. I admire the irony that the next incarnation of the Doctor DOES wear a hoodie. Maybe the conversation is canon after all
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 7:32:55 GMT
That was a fascinating read, thanks all. imo Brig canon is what we think it is from TV* and BF.
*Except for the Cyber-Brig which was disgusting and (since I'll never watch 'Death in Heaven' ever again) never happened! It's my head-canon and I'll remember whatever I like. Got to agree and I haven’t even heard the audio yet 🤪😂
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 7:36:58 GMT
That was a fascinating read, thanks all. imo Brig canon is what we think it is from TV* and BF.
*Except for the Cyber-Brig which was disgusting and (since I'll never watch 'Death in Heaven' ever again) never happened! It's my head-canon and I'll remember whatever I like. Yes am like that with Jodie tbh I tried to persuade myself to just like it but i don't really So it’s my head canon too so the Doctor died after Capaldi 😂😉
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Sept 26, 2019 7:38:38 GMT
Candy Jar, Haisman & Linclon licence or not, take a back seat to the ACTUAL TV SHOW as to what is and isn't canon. The beeb didn't force the issue, but WE know, WE know, and all the weird retconning won't make it any different.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Sept 26, 2019 7:51:42 GMT
Yeah I think what happened was that pretty much as soon as Twice Upon a Time aired, Candy Jar stealth released a short story saying that The Captain was the Brigadier's great uncle. Of course the BBC weren’t happy about this, as it was their intention that he was the Brigadier's grandfather. So there was a whole drama between the BBC and Candy Jar which resulted in Candy Jar releasing another short story that revealed that the Captain had an affair with his brother’s wife (the Brig’s grandmother) making him both the Brigadier's great uncle and his grandfather. They also reveal that the Brigadier and Sarah Jane have something of a familial connection. George Wilson, who was the first husband of Doris and raised Doris and the Brig's son Albert, is actually Sarah Jane's uncle. So I guess you could say that Sarah Jane is the Brigadier's son’s step/adopted cousin. Yeah, they've gone down a rabbit hole of nonsense now. Next thing it'll be looms!
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Sept 26, 2019 12:58:02 GMT
Yeah I think what happened was that pretty much as soon as Twice Upon a Time aired, Candy Jar stealth released a short story saying that The Captain was the Brigadier's great uncle. Of course the BBC weren’t happy about this, as it was their intention that he was the Brigadier's grandfather. So there was a whole drama between the BBC and Candy Jar which resulted in Candy Jar releasing another short story that revealed that the Captain had an affair with his brother’s wife (the Brig’s grandmother) making him both the Brigadier's great uncle and his grandfather. They also reveal that the Brigadier and Sarah Jane have something of a familial connection. George Wilson, who was the first husband of Doris and raised Doris and the Brig's son Albert, is actually Sarah Jane's uncle. So I guess you could say that Sarah Jane is the Brigadier's son’s step/adopted cousin. Its that kind of attitude from Candy Jar thats stopped me from reading their stuff
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Post by number13 on Sept 26, 2019 13:10:00 GMT
That was a fascinating read, thanks all. imo Brig canon is what we think it is from TV* and BF. *Except for the Cyber-Brig which was disgusting and (since I'll never watch 'Death in Heaven' ever again) never happened! It's my head-canon and I'll remember whatever I like. On the subject of exeunts, do you know about a comic called Fade Away? One of Who's regular artists, Paul Hanley, wrote something of a coda for the Doctor's travels with Alistair. You can read it in full here. Thanks Wolfie! I'll enjoy that. (Saying so in mere unillustrated words seems a bit inadequate all of a sudden, but I just do the best I can... )
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 22:03:50 GMT
More of David Colling's Doctor. What must this Doctor have lived through to become someone who believes the ends justifies the means? Did he perhaps lose Susan due to some negligence on his part? Or was this Doctor created by the simple act of killing a caveman with a stone in 'An Unearthly Child'...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 4:14:36 GMT
More of David Colling's Doctor. What must this Doctor have lived through to become someone who believes the ends justifies the means? Did he perhaps lose Susan due to some negligence on his part? Or was this Doctor created by the simple act of killing a caveman with a stone in 'An Unearthly Child'...I love the simplicity of that. A small act that nudged him ever so slightly into others that grew more and more callous as time rolled on. Maybe he was the Doctor who refused to be humanised or learnt the wrong lessons of the human race over his lives.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 8:39:13 GMT
More of David Colling's Doctor. What must this Doctor have lived through to become someone who believes the ends justifies the means? Did he perhaps lose Susan due to some negligence on his part? Or was this Doctor created by the simple act of killing a caveman with a stone in 'An Unearthly Child'...I love the simplicity of that. A small act that nudged him ever so slightly into others that grew more and more callous as time rolled on. Maybe he was the Doctor who refused to be humanised or learnt the wrong lessons of the human race over his lives. I had only recently discovered this small gem of a tale.It would be interesting to visit his story and Collings is as ever brilliant at the part and I like your reasoning. I definitely would enjoy more .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 11:25:14 GMT
The story behind the Beast Of Fang Rock-havent watched it in a while but wasn’t there a tale in the tale. The Lwthbridge-Stewart novels covered it, it was a wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey happening because of the Rutan attack IIRC. And finally the Cd has arrived from amazon
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Sept 30, 2019 12:40:11 GMT
An original Main Range trilogy featuring 7 and Benny, thats set after Love and War and features the return of Ace. Leading into Shadow of the Scourge and such.
Especially since the Novel adapts have stopped
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Post by zebediahdoe on Oct 7, 2019 22:32:57 GMT
I love the simplicity of that. A small act that nudged him ever so slightly into others that grew more and more callous as time rolled on. Maybe he was the Doctor who refused to be humanised or learnt the wrong lessons of the human race over his lives. I had only recently discovered this small gem of a tale.It would be interesting to visit his story and Collings is as ever brilliant at the part and I like your reasoning. I definitely would enjoy more . I still get goosebumps listening to FFF, and I've heard it a good few times now. Collings is such a great actor, but I'd be scared of him trying something else as The Doctor, because it's such a perfect story.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2019 10:14:03 GMT
Now that i have had my ravenous finale.
I would love a Time Scaphe alpha 9 one off epic. Full of Unknown’s to Big finish,no doctors, No companions, No masters. Its mission ,its crew and its horrific end...and not the legend told,the campfire story...but the truth lol
go On Mr Dorney and Mr Fitton co write a Halloween tale
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