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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 11:08:04 GMT
In addition the above, I'd also recommend 'Seasons of Fear' and '...ish', also heavily (ridiculously!) discounted, and two of my absolute favourites.
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Post by Digi on May 17, 2019 11:28:58 GMT
Thinking back on this....it is truly impressive how much I got wrong
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Post by silverednickle on May 17, 2019 20:26:48 GMT
I think that's half the fun is how much we were all here, plotting, accounting for characters and motives, and yet the writers were able to craft a story and the actors follow through that kept us guessing all sorts of things. I look forward to speculating on here next time. Then again, plenty to dissect now and lots of other topics to read and type about with you lovely people in the meantime.
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Post by barnabaslives on May 17, 2019 20:53:46 GMT
I think that's half the fun is how much we were all here, plotting, accounting for characters and motives, and yet the writers were able to craft a story and the actors follow through that kept us guessing all sorts of things. Yes, as with Bloodlust, I think Bloodline seems to have been carefully written so that anyone new to Dark Shadows isn't at a disadvantage when trying to figure out what's going on.
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Post by Trace on May 18, 2019 7:01:49 GMT
LOVED IT!!! Just catching up reading all the posts, and I agree--what a massive undertaking! Paying reverence to the OS and earlier audios, keeping the timelines all afloat, a cast of thousands, chills, questions, answers, and tears! Some great returns--I cried when I heard Matthew Waterhouse and Ursula Burton! Julie Newmar nailed it, so please bring her back as Lilith or anyone else, or even as Julia in a sideline story. Same with Andrew Collins! He most certainly CAN be Barnabas again--this is Dark Shadows, people!!
Oh--a few pages back someone mentioned Amy and David's "divorce", which they knew they heard in Amy's Paris short story. The word "divorce" is never used. It's just the end of their relationship. Maybe they say "breakup" but never "divorce"
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Post by Trace on May 18, 2019 7:06:31 GMT
There are so many ways these next releases can go! Windcliff is going to be a cracker of a tale! and we have Thirteen the following April, and something special in between! Not to mention T&C Vol 3. (not my favorites, but they're growing on me. I do feel like Vol 3 should be enough. They feel too separated from the rest of the cast, so in their own little world, I'm finding it hard to fall in love with it, or them. Perhaps if an occasional other DS star could get involved and hire the duo.
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Post by fingersmash on May 18, 2019 12:13:23 GMT
There are so many ways these next releases can go! Windcliff is going to be a cracker of a tale! and we have Thirteen the following April, and something special in between! Not to mention T&C Vol 3. (not my favorites, but they're growing on me. I do feel like Vol 3 should be enough. They feel too separated from the rest of the cast, so in their own little word, I'm finding it hard to fall in love with it, or them. Perhaps if an occasional other DS star could get involved and hire the duo. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's the point. Tony and Cassandra are off having adventures and solving mysteries while whatever supernatural hijinks goes on in Collinsport happens.
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Post by Trace on May 18, 2019 23:50:13 GMT
No, you aren’t wrong. That’s the way it’s supposed to be. And I’m in the minority because I keep hearing that everyone loves them and are always asking for more.
Don’t get me wrong. I like them fine. And the characters are fun...it just feels more like Moonlighting than Dark Shadows, which I suppose is the point.
And apologies for leaving the topic of this thread. I can take this over to the T&C thread! 😉
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Post by Rob Morris on May 19, 2019 0:01:03 GMT
No, you aren’t wrong. That’s the way it’s supposed to be. And I’m in the minority because I keep hearing that everyone loves them and are always asking for more. Nothing can be for everyone! My philosophy is enjoy what you enjoy, and don't piss on someone else's chips. (Which you haven't, BTW. But I can't believe you don't enjoy finding me dead in a safe in T&C 1. )
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Post by Trace on May 19, 2019 1:32:54 GMT
I think that's half the fun is how much we were all here, plotting, accounting for characters and motives, and yet the writers were able to craft a story and the actors follow through that kept us guessing all sorts of things. I look forward to speculating on here next time. Then again, plenty to dissect now and lots of other topics to read and type about with you lovely people in the meantime. So true! The bi-weekly serial format is so fun for water-cooler conversation and speculation!
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Post by Trace on May 19, 2019 1:42:31 GMT
No, you aren’t wrong. That’s the way it’s supposed to be. And I’m in the minority because I keep hearing that everyone loves them and are always asking for more. Nothing can be for everyone! My philosophy is enjoy what you enjoy, and don't piss on someone else's chips. (Which you haven't, BTW. But I can't believe you don't enjoy finding me dead in a safe in T&C 1. ) You’re right—I do! It appeals to my baser nature. 😉
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Post by argdov on May 19, 2019 19:06:18 GMT
So I've been thinking it over and I kind of wonder if a lot of the time travel stuff is setting up future Big Finish releases in the "audiobook" range they have for Dark Shadows. A lot of threads are still kind of open. Off the top of my head I can think of a couple.
-What WAS Cody's ancestor up to? we still don't know, you could easily do a story focusing on that with completley original characters (or alternatively maybe his experiments will get revived in the Windcliffe miniseries)
-One focusing on the ghost of Jenny and Charity Trask. I don't know if there's much you could do there but its a possibility.
-Maybe something about what happened to Anna Collins after giving birth to Quentin? if I remember correctly we still don't have all the details of how she died.
-Vivian Belle could've come across something supernatural while running her speak easy. That could be kind of fun.
-Maybe one similar to the Curse of Shurafa but Jackie is the one telling the story about something she saw while with Julia and Barnabas. That would get around needing Julie Newmar and Andrew Collins and they could use bits and pieces of the original shows audio as well like they did in that release.
These are just some ideas. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Personally some of the stories this could lead to sound pretty interesting to me.
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Post by masterdoctor on May 19, 2019 19:24:52 GMT
So I've been thinking it over and I kind of wonder if a lot of the time travel stuff is setting up future Big Finish releases in the "audiobook" range they have for Dark Shadows. A lot of threads are still kind of open. Off the top of my head I can think of a couple. -What WAS Cody's ancestor up to? we still don't know, you could easily do a story focusing on that with completley original characters (or alternatively maybe his experiments will get revived in the Windcliffe miniseries) -One focusing on the ghost of Jenny and Charity Trask. I don't know if there's much you could do there but its a possibility. -Maybe something about what happened to Anna Collins after giving birth to Quentin? if I remember correctly we still don't have all the details of how she died. -Vivian Belle could've come across something supernatural while running her speak easy. That could be kind of fun. -Maybe one similar to the Curse of Shurafa but Jackie is the one telling the story about something she saw while with Julia and Barnabas. That would get around needing Julie Newmar and Andrew Collins and they could use bits and pieces of the original shows audio as well like they did in that release. These are just some ideas. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Personally some of the stories this could lead to sound pretty interesting to me. I love the audiobook range, and these all sound very good to me, especially the Vivian and Jackie ones, and if we get more Andrew Collins and Julie Neymar I will never complain.
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Post by Zagreus on May 19, 2019 19:56:25 GMT
So I've been thinking it over and I kind of wonder if a lot of the time travel stuff is setting up future Big Finish releases in the "audiobook" range they have for Dark Shadows. A lot of threads are still kind of open. Off the top of my head I can think of a couple. -What WAS Cody's ancestor up to? we still don't know, you could easily do a story focusing on that with completley original characters (or alternatively maybe his experiments will get revived in the Windcliffe miniseries) -One focusing on the ghost of Jenny and Charity Trask. I don't know if there's much you could do there but its a possibility. -Maybe something about what happened to Anna Collins after giving birth to Quentin? if I remember correctly we still don't have all the details of how she died. -Vivian Belle could've come across something supernatural while running her speak easy. That could be kind of fun. -Maybe one similar to the Curse of Shurafa but Jackie is the one telling the story about something she saw while with Julia and Barnabas. That would get around needing Julie Newmar and Andrew Collins and they could use bits and pieces of the original shows audio as well like they did in that release. These are just some ideas. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Personally some of the stories this could lead to sound pretty interesting to me. I love the audiobook range, and these all sound very good to me, especially the Vivian and Jackie ones, and if we get more Andrew Collins and Julie Neymar I will never complain. All of course supposing the dramatic readings range comes back. For the time being, it looks like we're shifting to box sets and miniseries (not that I'm complaining, in that respect, mind you )
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Post by masterdoctor on May 19, 2019 19:58:01 GMT
I love the audiobook range, and these all sound very good to me, especially the Vivian and Jackie ones, and if we get more Andrew Collins and Julie Neymar I will never complain. All of course supposing the dramatic readings range comes back. For the time being, it looks like we're shifting to box sets and miniseries (not that I'm complaining, in that respect, mind you ) Good point, however, I trust that great stories will be told by BF with Dark Shadows no matter how they decide to make them.
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Post by argdov on May 19, 2019 20:29:16 GMT
I love the audiobook range, and these all sound very good to me, especially the Vivian and Jackie ones, and if we get more Andrew Collins and Julie Neymar I will never complain. All of course supposing the dramatic readings range comes back. For the time being, it looks like we're shifting to box sets and miniseries (not that I'm complaining, in that respect, mind you ) I do agree, I do like the miniseries format as its more reminiscent of the original series and lends itself to different types of story tellings than the dramatic readings did but I don't think the dramatic readings were announced as being now over. Granted, I would imagine these miniseries require just as much if not more time and resources to create than the dramatic readings do so having both them and the boxsets, and the dramatic readings range all having releases in one year seems unlikely. Still, a guy can wonder, after all. As an aside I just kind of realized that the fact John was locked in the basement and never really became relevant to the story could be a plot thread in a later miniseries- he might've escaped after all. And if Lilith was serving the dark lord after all I can only imagine he'd want her to release him at some point....
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Post by Zagreus on May 19, 2019 20:34:14 GMT
All these dangling plot threads... what with Windcliff and Thirteen and other mystery sets announced all at once, it really feels like BF have sort of got the next few years mapped out, as far as Dark Shadows content is concerned, and are seeding stuff early to come back to later.
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Post by Eiphel on May 20, 2019 16:39:21 GMT
Never used this forum before so I missed all the discussion! But I'm glad it had a thriving one! Some thoughts:
Bloodline and Bloodlust both feel to me to be giving an ending to the mainstays of the original show. For Bloodline that was Angelique and Maggie, and for Bloodlust it's Barnabas and Julia. That's not to say they're precluded from ever being used again, but they've been given closure on their lives so that they have the complete narrative throughline they deserve. Meanwhile, new characters have evolved alongside these characters' completing their arcs, becoming mainstays in their own rights. BF have shepherded a deft handing on of the baton(s).
I finished the original series with enough time to marathon all the prior fully dramatised material and a lot of the relevant monthly stories, and what particularly sticks out is comparing House of Despair to now. Quentin returns to a deserted Collinwood, with the family scattered to the winds and the town trying to forget them. Now Collinwood is full and lively with a new family, stronger than ever. The evolution from the empty, bleak hollowness Quentin returned to those many stories back is brilliant.
Matthew Waterhouse returning as Asa was great. I loved those scenes.
I loved Charity and Cyrus talking together, comparing notes on their mental hitchhikers. One of my few disappointments this series was that Cyrus and Sabrina weren't really used much, but they got some good scenes in the final few episodes that assuaged that. The monthly DS range built up this huge foreboding impetus with the Son of the Dark Lord arc and it's weird that it's then just been left floating - but now the Son is back in Collinsport, and probably just where Diabolos wants him, and Cyrus has already been entangled with Windcliff before, so I'm expecting it to be a part in next year's season.
Trying to fathom the mystery as things moved along, I thought for a while it was somehow going to be related to the elder Quentin, as he had conducted time travel experiments before.
Idle speculation for future plotlines based on nothing at all: The Leviathans were up to no good, but got thwarted when Gerald/Nicholas was sealed in the Leviathan Box. But that's still out there, just bobbing in the sea... (Plus I kind of want to see more of Nicholas trying to be heroic.)
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Post by Rob Morris on May 20, 2019 17:30:52 GMT
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Post by Digi on May 20, 2019 18:12:42 GMT
All these dangling plot threads... what with Windcliff and Thirteen and other mystery sets announced all at once, it really feels like BF have sort of got the next few years mapped out, as far as Dark Shadows content is concerned, and are seeding stuff early to come back to later. Given how intricately plotted-out Bloodline was, I can’t imagine they don’t have plans for the next while already laid out!
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