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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 20:34:55 GMT
I would not accept any nomination, though am thankful to be considered. I don't have the skill for holding my tongue and have had many - mostly civil - tellings off for goading people here and arguing even if it was with subsequently banned members. Put it this way; if we had members like Ulysses, Dalekbuster and Budnp again....I wouldn't want to have been dealing with them. I'll just argue my own side as I've been doing but thanks again to MasterDoctor and the two members who PMed me for the encouragement....but I can cause much more trouble doing my own thing. I'd support most mentioned with no issues at all though Wolfie and MasterDoctor would be uppermost in my thoughts. In the spirit of Jason's last paragraph though, sorry, I can't really say I'd actively support Omega doing it given the near constant sniping about thread ownership - with even yesterday having to be told to simmer down by two mods... after applying to be one. I don't particularly enjoy saying that but I think it's better to be honest now when people are candidates. Its been a while since the mods last contacted me in their position as moderators, certainly before this opportunity came up. That's just not really true, though, sorry. notthebigfinishforum.freeforums.net/thread/3561/1das-discussion-thread-spoilers-page?page=24That was only yesterday, after your application here, Ela rebuked you telling people how to post and Jason picked up on your "This isn't my thread." post. That neither felt it necessary to use red text doesn't - I don't think - mean they weren't commenting from their position of mods. I don't really think there's any other way to read it
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Post by omega on Jul 26, 2018 20:50:31 GMT
Its been a while since the mods last contacted me in their position as moderators, certainly before this opportunity came up. Since you're being specific...
Other than comments in threads where we've made remarks about certain of your forum activities, some of them quite recently, the last time we sent a PM to you officially as moderators was July 4 of this year.
I wouldn't normally mention it, as we usually keep this behind-the-scenes activity confidential, but I think your remarks make it necessary to make sure the record is clear and that no misinformation is being given out.
I have changed my actions to reflect the feedback given, and will continue to modify my behaviour based on any future feedback. If I were to receive moderator admin rights I'd look at how I'd be expected to behave appropriately. As I said in my submission, the most important thing is to know when to get involved and when to leave matters to run their course, in an ever evolving environment. I've worked in cooperation before, with Mark during Series 10.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 21:14:45 GMT
Can I nominate Whovitt? Probably the friendliest face on the forum.
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Post by Ela on Jul 26, 2018 21:16:43 GMT
Can I nominate Whovitt? Probably the friendliest face on the forum. You can nominate any forum member. In order to be a nominee, Whovitt would have to accept and give a statement, as other nominees have.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 21:19:05 GMT
Since you're being specific...
Other than comments in threads where we've made remarks about certain of your forum activities, some of them quite recently, the last time we sent a PM to you officially as moderators was July 4 of this year.
I wouldn't normally mention it, as we usually keep this behind-the-scenes activity confidential, but I think your remarks make it necessary to make sure the record is clear and that no misinformation is being given out.
I have changed my actions to reflect the feedback given, and will continue to modify my behaviour based on any future feedback. If I were to receive moderator admin rights I'd look at how I'd be expected to behave appropriately. As I said in my submission, the most important thing is to know when to get involved and when to leave matters to run their course, in an ever evolving environment. I've worked in cooperation before, with Mark during Series 10. Sorry. Don't think you are suitable.
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Post by omega on Jul 26, 2018 21:40:28 GMT
I have changed my actions to reflect the feedback given, and will continue to modify my behaviour based on any future feedback. If I were to receive moderator admin rights I'd look at how I'd be expected to behave appropriately. As I said in my submission, the most important thing is to know when to get involved and when to leave matters to run their course, in an ever evolving environment. I've worked in cooperation before, with Mark during Series 10. Sorry. Don't think you are suitable. If I may inquire, what action going forward would help to change that opinion? If I don't get feedback I can't amend how I'd act in a given situation. Because clearly I need to change according to your response.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 22:10:49 GMT
Sorry. Don't think you are suitable. If I may inquire, what action going forward would help to change that opinion? If I don't get feedback I can't amend how I'd act in a given situation. Because clearly I need to change according to your response. You would certainly need to change your posting habits if you was to become a mod, but I do agree that people should be given a chance to change their behaviour and respond to feedback given. None of us are perfect.
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Post by omega on Jul 27, 2018 0:38:54 GMT
If I may inquire, what action going forward would help to change that opinion? If I don't get feedback I can't amend how I'd act in a given situation. Because clearly I need to change according to your response. You would certainly need to change your posting habits if you was to become a mod, but I do agree that people should be given a chance to change their behaviour and respond to feedback given. None of us are perfect. I have already started to change that, and intend to be consistent with the new approach. A temporary anomaly that may make this harder to spot is the ongoing listen through, which the last one I intend for the foreseeable. Once that's complete a much lower posting rate should be observed. If you observe the threads I have created in the last month or so, the majority of them are for the listen through, which which will wrap up soon. Among the measures I have taken is to amalgamate where possible, such as in the podcast thread. If a comment or group of comments can be in one post instead of over two or more, I'm putting it in one post. Ditto for the listen throughs. Actually, that's another aspect of a good moderator. Knowing the opinions of an individual aren't the be all and end all where a group is concerned. Recognising when you need to compromise your ideal approach if it doesn't fit the group consensus. I know some of my activities here don't resonate with other users, and I'm willing to work out a middle ground so I can express myself in a way that's more palatable to the community here. I've got an idea for the discussion of upcoming releases that bypasses release threads months in advance. If I was given the privilege of being a moderator I'd observe and listen, acting on behalf of the forum community as a whole regardless of how I'd personally like to handle things.
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Post by The Matt on Jul 27, 2018 4:30:57 GMT
Fair enough, you say you want to change but the timing is suspect. This deep desire to change your only appears to have vocalised when there is a chance to become a mod. Hmmmmm.
Actually change and show that change over a period of time and then maybe when there is a chance in the future you could get the chance?
as for right now? Read the feeling of the thread and bow out gracefully would be my advice.
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Post by masterdoctor on Jul 27, 2018 4:53:59 GMT
Fair enough, you say you want to change but the timing is suspect. This deep desire to change your only appears to have vocalised when there is a chance to become a mod. Hmmmmm. Actually change and show that change over a period of time and then maybe when there is a chance in the future you could get the chance? as for right now? Read the feeling of the thread and bow out gracefully would be my advice. I do think that Omega should continue to be in talks if he so should wish. There is every chance that he would be a good mod and some might believe that, I don't know. I think a poll, as has been tooted, would be a wonderful way to gather as many opinions(which are all invaluable, at least to me) as possible, making it so that people are not required to post their thoughts for whatever reason. Either way I think that everyone who has voiced recommendations or concerns are appreciated very much. EDIT: And after reading that, I realize how preachy it read so apologies to you The Matt.
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Post by Whovitt on Jul 27, 2018 5:05:11 GMT
Can I nominate Whovitt? Probably the friendliest face on the forum. Thank you! I’m honoured you have the faith in me to be a moderator and it’s nice to hear that I help to maintain the friendly feel around here I wasn’t sure about applying before but knowing that at least one person feels I could be a good fit for the job has given me the confidence to throw my hat in the ring as well. (I’ve tried to avoid reading other applicants posts, so if this is similar to anyone else’s it’s purely coincidental) I believe the main goal of moderation is to maintain the friendliness and inclusivity of the forum. Just as important as knowing when to act is how to act, knowing when to guide people back on track rather than directly intervening. Everyone should feel safe to discuss their opinions, news, or whatever else they may fancy. If a discussion is getting a little heated, a gentle reminder of civility is usually all that’s needed for everyone to calm down, though if things do continue then it is also important to have a firm hand. Another integral aspect is keeping tabs on the general needs of the forum, such as making sure that any recurrent issues are addressed fairly and efficiently, as well as addressing any major discussion points with all members, e.g. a potential reorganisation of sub forums (as a purely hypothetical example). I have always felt that our forum has met all of these criteria with ease, and I would love the opportunity to help keep it that way in the future.
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Post by Timelord007 on Jul 27, 2018 5:45:04 GMT
Its been a while since the mods last contacted me in their position as moderators, certainly before this opportunity came up. That's just not really true, though, sorry. notthebigfinishforum.freeforums.net/thread/3561/1das-discussion-thread-spoilers-page?page=24That was only yesterday, after your application here, Ela rebuked you telling people how to post and Jason picked up on your "This isn't my thread." post. That neither felt it necessary to use red text doesn't - I don't think - mean they weren't commenting from their position of mods. I don't really think there's any other way to read it Damm & there's me thinking you were finally going open that darn bottle of whiskey.
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Post by The Matt on Jul 27, 2018 7:23:59 GMT
Fair enough, you say you want to change but the timing is suspect. This deep desire to change your only appears to have vocalised when there is a chance to become a mod. Hmmmmm. Actually change and show that change over a period of time and then maybe when there is a chance in the future you could get the chance? as for right now? Read the feeling of the thread and bow out gracefully would be my advice. I do think that Omega should continue to be in talks if he so should wish. There is every chance that he would be a good mod and some might believe that, I don't know. I think a poll, as has been tooted, would be a wonderful way to gather as many opinions(which are all invaluable, at least to me) as possible, making it so that people are not required to post their thoughts for whatever reason. Either way I think that everyone who has voiced recommendations or concerns are appreciated very much. EDIT: And after reading that, I realize how preachy it read so apologies to you The Matt. No worries masterdoctor
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 27, 2018 8:22:18 GMT
My own take on this is that a lot of good names have been nominated/proposed and I don't envy the current mods having to pick the "best" 3. There are certainly more than 3 potential good mods in the list.
For the purposes of selecting the 3 appointees, I think anyone with a warning should be eliminated. Only the current mods will know who has unofficial "behind the scenes" warnings.
Beyond that I would suggest that members of the updates club should be excluded from the running. They have a tendency to occasionally get carried away and mods may have to intervene in future, so I think it might be a potential conflict of interest if any of the updates club was a mod. Sorry if this causes offence, I am just being honest.
This thread is in danger of turning into "let's kick omega" so, whilst I don't disagree with a lot of the comments made, I won't add to them. The point has been made and he has said he will take it on board, so good luck to him and no hard feelings. Maybe next time?
If I had to pick 3 I would go for masterdoctor, whovitt, digi and wolfie. I realise that's 4, but it's a tough call.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 27, 2018 8:28:58 GMT
"Everyone" is part of the updating btw.. Just putting it out there. :-)
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Post by number13 on Jul 27, 2018 10:37:47 GMT
Thanks very much for the nominations but I had in fact already ruled myself out on page 1 of the thread, channeling the Fifth Doctor's reaction on finding he'd been appointed Lord President...
I really don't have the Time and I'm unqualified in two respects:
Firstly, I'd be unwilling to take any action ever. As long as there's no seriously offensive behaviour (and we're such a nice forum it's almost unthinkable that there would be), I really don't care who posts a few posts/threads more than necessary, gets over-argumentative or over-enthusiastic about their pet theory, etc., etc.
Secondly, if someone was being blatantly very very annoying or worse, offensive, I wouldn't have the patience to deal patiently with them.
You might think you'd chosen 'The Deadly Assassin'-era Borusa - the measured, urbane statesman, skilled in masterly inactivity - but a point would come when you'd be wondering where the Coronet of Rassilon had gone to and why members X, Y, and Z had mysteriously vanished from the forum leaving behind garbled last messages about being chased by a flying black polygon...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2018 11:38:06 GMT
Fair enough, you say you want to change but the timing is suspect. This deep desire to change your only appears to have vocalised when there is a chance to become a mod. Hmmmmm. Actually change and show that change over a period of time and then maybe when there is a chance in the future you could get the chance? as for right now? Read the feeling of the thread and bow out gracefully would be my advice. I do think that Omega should continue to be in talks if he so should wish. There is every chance that he would be a good mod and some might believe that, I don't know. I think a poll, as has been tooted, would be a wonderful way to gather as many opinions(which are all invaluable, at least to me) as possible, making it so that people are not required to post their thoughts for whatever reason. Either way I think that everyone who has voiced recommendations or concerns are appreciated very much. EDIT: And after reading that, I realize how preachy it read so apologies to you The Matt. Not preachy at all .You come across as very balanced in your views . You would be a great mod .
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Post by Timelord007 on Jul 27, 2018 12:03:13 GMT
Can i nominate Boris Johnson?
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Post by doctorkernow on Jul 27, 2018 18:08:39 GMT
Hello again.
Timelord007, I'm surprised at you! Fancy nominating the most useless and self-promoting shambles of a politician ever to take public office.
Oh hang on that description could apply to several of her Majesty's current MPs. As you were Timelord007, whatever his failings as a politician his posts would be different...
"Doctor What you say? Travels around in a red phone box. His enemies include the Corbynites and the Goveks..? Yes, wondrous televisual treat."
I'll get my coat. Best wishes to all moderators past, present and future.
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Post by Ela on Jul 27, 2018 20:39:46 GMT
Updated list of nominees: Summary of application and nominations so far
mrperson Please post your support or concerns you may have about any of those that have applied (don't comment on nominations unless and until the person chooses to accept), please keep comments civil, calm and respectful, and remember potential mods, if you find critical views a problem, being a mod probably isn't a job for you.
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