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Post by barnabaslives on Jul 29, 2018 20:22:54 GMT
I would like this thread and the moderator nominations to not to become about the so-called "updates club". I think the idea of there being a club of updaters is a bit silly. I understand that those who participate are having fun with it, but it can start to look a bit exclusionary to those who are not participating. May I say that I think that was sort of the point of the all the "Updates Club" humor, that the whole idea of a club is very silly, and of course there isn't really such a thing and of course anyone can post updates. I sincerely hope no one felt excluded because of it. Granted that actual competitiveness might be unbecoming because there isn't really a competition (or a prize that I can think of) but at least to me, all the preposterous non-existent club rules that number13 posted went a long way to help emphasize just how absurd indeed the whole idea of an exclusive club really is - even if there may be a few with the enthusiasm and fortitude to stalk Big Finish's growing number of media platforms and literally lean on the refresh key until something actually happens, who we are able to name as the non-members of this now-legendary non-organization. (And just think, if they were all chosen, Updates Club would be on the verge of a Mods takeover - and (mad gleam in eyes) nozzing in ze vurld could stop us now! ) Offenders will receive daily updates on their probationary status from five different moderators, all within minutes of each other! Muwahahaha, UNLIMITED UPDATES!! (Sorry, just had to try to wring one last cheap laugh out of it). Um, on second thought... I think Ela, StarPlatinum, and any others have a very good point that nominees may want to consider for a moment how much of their customary reading or posting behavior might be compatible with moderator status, and if they're content with any changes that might be in order if selected. If for example Omega likes having stuff to do, would he enjoy being a moderator if he ended up with less stuff to do because of it? This might also include any of the wonderfully pleasant nominees who may be among those with the least taste for unpleasantries, and whether they're fully prepared to have to deal with that rare someone who may insist on being as unpleasant as possible while of necessity they're being shown the door? I don't want to be wishing something on anyone that they end up not liking.
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Post by jasonward on Jul 29, 2018 20:46:39 GMT
I will post from my own experience what it's like posting on the forum as a mod, or Admin I was previously.
You have to think, your posts carry more weight in people minds, I don't think they should unless the mod is clearly speaking as a mod, but none the less its how it is. You a representative of the forum, so sometimes you just can't say things, for instance, there have been a number of posts and threads criticising other forums and as a mod the last any of us want is for someone to read what I post and have it reposted elsewhere under the title of "Divergent Universe say were X".
If you in a discussion that develops and things get a little heated, you have to choose carefully whether to carry on, and if suddenly switching to moderator mode to calm things is a) going to make you look hypocritical and/or b) aggravate the situation more.
The year I spent away from being a mod/Admin was in large part due to these things, I really did want to be able to post for a while without having to always think carefully about it.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 29, 2018 20:53:38 GMT
My day job in the last 17 years involves having very difficult conversations daily, as I have said previously I use psychology as part and parcel in my dealings and interactions. I have literally had my life threatened on at least 3 occasions (with the police involved) in that 17 years- taken with a grain of salt. I am entrusted with sensitive documentation of all Australian and NZ citizens, I have no issues in putting different hats on as it were, I normally do tend to re-read what I wrote before I post if it's a "hot button topic".
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Post by Star Platinum on Jul 29, 2018 21:21:40 GMT
(And just think, if they were all chosen, Updates Club would be on the verge of a Mods takeover - and (mad gleam in eyes) nozzing in ze vurld could stop us now! ) Offenders will receive daily updates on their probationary status from five different moderators, all within minutes of each other! Muwahahaha, UNLIMITED UPDATES!! (Sorry, just had to try to wring one last cheap laugh out of it). not to beat a dead horse, just imagine them racing to dish out warnings, someone could go from 0 to 60% in 5 seconds flat!
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Post by jasonward on Jul 30, 2018 19:25:04 GMT
Don't forget the deadline is tomorrow, the 31st July, so anyone else thinking of applying, do so now!
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Post by The Matt on Jul 31, 2018 4:31:30 GMT
Offenders will receive daily updates on their probationary status from five different moderators, all within minutes of each other! Muwahahaha, UNLIMITED UPDATES!! (Sorry, just had to try to wring one last cheap laugh out of it). not to beat a dead horse, just imagine them racing to dish out warnings, someone could go from 0 to 60% in 5 seconds flat! I imagine instead of just writing a warning, Wolfie would write any offender a novella about what they had done wrong......
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Post by Digi on Jul 31, 2018 18:25:40 GMT
Good luck, folks.
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Post by jasonward on Aug 1, 2018 7:49:46 GMT
Application are now closed.
We will make an announcement in the next few days.
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Post by The Matt on Aug 1, 2018 8:05:18 GMT
No voting then? That would be a shame.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 11:46:57 GMT
Yeah a vote would be nice...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 17:25:19 GMT
I think voting would lend itself to misuse. I trust the mods here to make a good decision.
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Post by The Matt on Aug 3, 2018 18:46:29 GMT
I trust some mods more than others. There is, unfortunately, one mod i do not trust at all
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 21:13:04 GMT
I think voting would lend itself to misuse. I trust the mods here to make a good decision. I dunno, secret behind the scenes discussions can also lend itself to misuse. I don't see why anyone would be against a democratic open poll among the DU community. It is our community after all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 21:43:35 GMT
I think voting would lend itself to misuse. I trust the mods here to make a good decision. I dunno, secret behind the scenes discussions can also lend itself to misuse. I don't see why anyone would be against a democratic open poll among the DU community. It is our community after all. It would most likley cause a rift or something. People have stated their opinions on who they do and do not want (excessively so in omegas case. The point was made people dont need to keep regurgitation the same thing or hinting at that theres one person who wont be fit for it.) End of day the mods on this forum are nearly always fair and i dont doubt they will make a fair and judicious decision in regards to the new mods
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Post by Digi on Aug 3, 2018 22:01:34 GMT
I think voting would lend itself to misuse. I trust the mods here to make a good decision. I dunno, secret behind the scenes discussions can also lend itself to misuse. I don't see why anyone would be against a democratic open poll among the DU community. It is our community after all. I was actually quite surprised to see the question put to the public in this way. Typically decisions like this are made 'behind closed doors,' not least because of the potential sniping and pile-ons that we witnessed in this thread. By keeping it 'behind closed doors,' you may ruffle some feathers if Person A doesn't like that Person B was picked, but that's generally more desirable than everyone hurling mud at one person. There's also something to be said for "expert opinion" in that the group of people who have been moderating for some time generally have a better understanding of what's required of someone's temperament for the job (and what attitudes/tendencies may backfire), than do the 'average' person who doesn't hold those responsibilities. Put more simply: the Manager generally doesn't go to the employees and have them nominate and vote on who should get the open Assistant Manager position.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 12:16:17 GMT
I dunno, secret behind the scenes discussions can also lend itself to misuse. I don't see why anyone would be against a democratic open poll among the DU community. It is our community after all. Put more simply: the Manager generally doesn't go to the employees and have them nominate and vote on who should get the open Assistant Manager position. You're right, but they did ask for public nominations and had an open discussion on the issue, so a vote is the logical next step if there are more nominations than positions. (I'm not going to start a revolution if they don't though!)
If they were going to keep it 'in-house' then they should have just invited people that they felt would make good moderators by PM.
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Post by omega on Aug 4, 2018 12:20:53 GMT
Put more simply: the Manager generally doesn't go to the employees and have them nominate and vote on who should get the open Assistant Manager position. You're right, but they did ask for public nominations and had an open discussion on the issue, so a vote is the logical next step if there are more nominations than positions. (I'm not going to start a revolution if they don't though!)
If they were going to keep it 'in-house' then they should have just invited people that they felt would make good moderators by PM.
Or the public nominations were a way to get feedback on the candidates from regular members, which would go into consideration for the final selection. An unofficial voting of sorts has taken place for support, or lack of, for some candidates through the discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 12:31:25 GMT
Or the public nominations were a way to get feedback on the candidates from regular members Well, they certainly got feedback!
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Post by lidar2 on Aug 4, 2018 13:05:07 GMT
If there was a vote could people create new member logins to cast multiple votes?
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Post by omega on Aug 4, 2018 13:15:08 GMT
If there was a vote could people create new member logins to cast multiple votes? Creating multiple accounts is against the rules. One reason is to prevent people getting around bans, but sock puppeting is another valid reason. I trust that the current moderation team will take all the facts into consideration when reaching their decision. Outside of them only ex-mods have any experience of moderating the Divergent Universe, and would be able to gauge who would be handle the position appropriately. The process has been as transparent as it can be without breaching any privacy rights all members have.
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