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Post by themeddlingmonk on Nov 3, 2022 12:52:29 GMT
So The Power of the Doctor is in 2022 and Quantum is after it. How that fits with At Childhood’s End is a kettle of fish not worth opening. Maybe time going wobbling during Flux erased it. I’ve also put Power after Ace’s Torchwood appearances, though that is an entirely arbitrary choice based on release order. A thought on something that’s missing; do we have any idea when the 6DAs in Hebe’s “present day” occur? She’s an ex student of Evelyn’s so would have had to been at Sheffield Hallam in early 2000s, but don’t think there’s anything more specific than that to go on. It feels like modern Sheffield in the episodes. Plus iirc Elise mentions that Hebe has sort of been awol for a few years. And Elise’s actress is about 10 to 15 years older than Hebe’s which makes me think she skipped ahead. Quantum would be in 2023 if it’s after Power as it’s set a few months after Christmas. Unless we assume that Power takes place in very early 2022 but I’m not sure that tracks with UNIT back to being fully operational. The Sarah Jane’s death dating controversy is only gonna get worse when Rani Takes on the World comes out.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Nov 15, 2022 23:27:54 GMT
{UNIT: Nemesis 3}
So Jacqui McGee gets killed off in this set. Which means that it must take place after Narcissus from The Eighth of March. Which means UNIT Nemesis takes place after the Zygon two parter even though there’s only one Osgood and no mention of a second one, even to the extent that she only mentions having one sister.
I suppose Jacqui could get resurrected in the next set but it feels pretty final.
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Post by nitronine on Nov 27, 2022 22:08:30 GMT
{UNIT: Nemesis 3}
So Jacqui McGee gets killed off in this set. Which means that it must take place after Narcissus from The Eighth of March. Which means UNIT Nemesis takes place after the Zygon two parter even though there’s only one Osgood and no mention of a second one, even to the extent that she only mentions having one sister.
I suppose Jacqui could get resurrected in the next set but it feels pretty final. Random theory that could be already be contradicted, but could this be after UNIT is reformed in Flux/Power of the Doctor? In Redacted there was seemingly only one Osgood, in the Flux flashback only one was mentioned. Maybe in one of the Zygon invasions something happened to the other one and everyone had a mindwipe. Pure conjecture but there’s precedent from the Zygon Invasion/Inversion in a way for mind wipes in order to keep the Zygon/human peace. Although I’m still hoping for a 2nd Osgood reveal in box 4.
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Post by sherlock on Dec 2, 2022 20:02:11 GMT
Updates!
UNIT - Nemesis has been shuffled to post-Narcissus due to spoilered discussion in this thread. I’m not following this spin off so take your words for it. I’ve put London Orbital just after Nemesis too for the Harry & Naomi arc.
Torchwood: SUV is in really early 2008. Gwen’s mentioned as new, so definitely Series 1 era, but Ianto mentions a Secret Santa so it must be after at least one Christmas season with Torchwood Three for him so post-Out of Time. And frankly I’ve been in my job for 8 months and I still get people thinking of me as new, so it’s not impossible for Gwen to have been there a few months and still be the new girl.
The Lincolnshire Poacher could not be more arbitrary to place if it tried. I’ve put it with the batch of pre-Children of Earth stories in 2009 cos why not.
I’ve put Flatpack in mid 2021 just cos Liv is still adjusting to normal life somewhat. There might be a more specific timeframe mentioned, but I’ve forgotten if so and I cannot summon the effort to listen to it again.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Dec 2, 2022 22:34:12 GMT
Updates! UNIT - Nemesis has been shuffled to post -Narcissus due to spoilered discussion in this thread. I’m not following this spin off so take your words for it. I’ve put London Orbital just after Nemesis too for the Harry & Naomi arc. Torchwood: SUV is in really early 2008. Gwen’s mentioned as new, so definitely Series 1 era, but Ianto mentions a Secret Santa so it must be after at least one Christmas season with Torchwood Three for him so post- Out of Time. And frankly I’ve been in my job for 8 months and I still get people thinking of me as new, so it’s not impossible for Gwen to have been there a few months and still be the new girl. The Lincolnshire Poacher could not be more arbitrary to place if it tried. I’ve put it with the batch of pre- Children of Earth stories in 2009 cos why not. I’ve put Flatpack in mid 2021 just cos Liv is still adjusting to normal life somewhat. There might be a more specific timeframe mentioned, but I’ve forgotten if so and I cannot summon the effort to listen to it again. I think Tania says that it’s been over a year now since Liv settled down at Baker Street but I’m not sure whether she’s counting the events of Best Year Ever within that. So either it’s early to mid 2021 and a few months since the end of Stranded, or we’re into 2022 and it’s been over a year since the end of Stranded.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Dec 9, 2022 0:19:56 GMT
So it turns out that in Open the Box, the final of UNIT: Revisitations, Kate actually says that the month is currently November. Which means that everything from Invocation in Encounters to Open the Box in Revisitations takes place in the same month of November. Which kinda makes sense because looking back, Cyber-Reality does actually pick up from a cliffhanger at the end of Encounters, and ofc Revisitations picks up from a cliffhanger at the end of Cyber-Reality. Osgood saying at the start of Cyber-Reality that Encounters took place over a few months is quite odd though if Invocation was at the beginning of November. I guess The Dalek Transaction must take place in September-ish time? The timeline doesn’t change an awful amount this way, but it does mean you can problem fit the whole of the original 8 UNIT box sets into the span of a single year now, if you just assume Incursions takes place in December. Silenced continues to be the set where you’ve really got to squint to make it fit. And in other UNIT news… {UNIT: Brave New World - Visitants } The final story of the set (The Last Line of Defence) ends on New Years Day 2000, with Bambera announcing to her team that UNIT operations are being relocated to the Tower of London.
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Post by sherlock on Apr 2, 2023 20:34:02 GMT
Having just caught up on 6DAs, I’ve opted to just plonk them in 2022 as year of release as there’s nothing really to go on.
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Post by Ricky on Apr 21, 2023 13:09:18 GMT
Rani Takes on the World takes place when Rani and Clyde are 30, which would place it around 2023-2024. (I think Rani is born in 1993, and Clyde in 1994)
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Post by sherlock on Apr 22, 2023 15:22:21 GMT
Rani Takes on the World takes place when Rani and Clyde are 30, which would place it around 2023-2024. (I think Rani is born in 1993, and Clyde in 1994) I have no idea about the dates of birth, but the first story of Rani Takes on the World is actually explicit about being in 2023, as it’s 60 years after 1963. It then leads more or less straight into the second story, and the third one is a maximum of couple of months after the first story.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Apr 22, 2023 17:44:34 GMT
Rani is an Aries according to Secrets of the Stars, which means she was born in either March or April. And then Lost in Time is set in November 2010 and has Rani explicitly say she’s 17, which would mean she was born in March/April 1993.
She’s 30 in Rani Takes on the World, which means the series is set somewhere between March 2023 and March 2024. Based on that it probably means this is supposed to take place around the time of its release date circa April 2023.
The wiki gives Clyde’s birth date as 5th June 1994. I have no idea where this comes from, maybe a reference book or something. But it doesn’t really make sense because it would mean that Clyde is a whole year younger than Rani and they wouldn’t have been in the same year at school.
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Post by sherlock on May 7, 2023 17:27:56 GMT
Rob Valentine suggests Past Lives might be in 2012 in the behind the scenes. As it’s literally just Kate and Osgood involved with no mention of any other colleagues I’ve put it before the UNIT series.
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Post by sherlock on Jun 3, 2023 20:00:56 GMT
Among Us update!
Aliens Next Door is early 2020 as it seems to be only weeks/few months since Torchwood going on the run and the Cardiff flood of God Among Us is mentioned as the previous year. I’ve put Colin Alone and Misty Eyes a bit later in the year as the time distance from going on run seems much bigger, but still pre Covid so no one mentions it.
Moderation acknowledges Covid, sort of. Now it seems in the Who universe Covid was entirely confined to 2020, or else the Doctor, Liv, Helen and residents of Baker Street are all guilty of a massive breach of restrictions at the end of Best Year Ever and everyone in Revolution of the Daleks had just forgotten about it. So 2021 seems safest bet to attempt to keep it near the rest of the episodes. The story also references Ramadan at one point, which in 2021 was April - May. So I’ve put in early 2021.
I fully expect part 2 to throw a curveball in this, as just tends to happen with The Story Continues.
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Post by mark687 on Jun 9, 2023 22:34:36 GMT
Rob Valentine suggests Past Lives might be in 2012 in the behind the scenes. As it’s literally just Kate and Osgood involved with no mention of any other colleagues I’ve put it before the UNIT series. And yet on the Product Reviews Section BF have used this from a review Quote Robert Valentine’s script bringing together the Classic and New Series eras to fulfil the hour-long reunion, including the deliberate foreshadowing of The Day of the Doctor which takes place three years later. Regards mark687
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Post by sherlock on Aug 16, 2023 18:23:02 GMT
Two’s Company is explicitly set in 2006. It also spectacularly bungles that by having Jackie familiar with the Doctor having multiple faces, because yet again a writer has forgotten that damn year time jump in Aliens of London.
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Post by sherlock on Aug 21, 2023 14:54:54 GMT
Updated with full Among Us. Gist is first three stories dotted through pre-pandemic 2020, Moderation through to Cuckoo dotted through 2021 and Pariahs to the finale in early 2022, and I’ve slotted in The Red List and A Postcard from Mr Colchester into the running where they seem to fit best.
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Post by sherlock on Sept 27, 2023 9:09:16 GMT
Redacted 2 is in 2023. I’ve put it after Beyond Bannerman Road as Rani happily pops to number 13, which she’s reluctant to do there.
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Post by sherlock on Dec 10, 2023 21:11:29 GMT
Right so 60th specials-
The Star Beast comes in strong in the now grand tradition of messing up RTD era by forgetting the Series 1 year jump. As Sylvia refers to Donna losing her memories 15 years ago. Ah well, maybe this isn’t technically 2023 (despite Redacted 2 leading into being explicitly that year), but vague 2020s.
The Giggle then comes in hot to say, no. It’s 2023. So…yeah Sylvia’s just absent minded, or it’s so late in 2023 she’s just rounding up. That’ll do.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 21:14:47 GMT
Right so 60th specials- The Star Beast comes in strong in the now grand tradition of messing up RTD era by forgetting the Series 1 year jump. As Sylvia refers to Donna losing her memories 15 years ago. Ah well, maybe this isn’t technically 2023 (despite Redacted 2 leading into being explicitly that year), but vague 2020s. The Giggle then comes in hot to say, no. It’s 2023. So…yeah Sylvia’s just absent minded, or it’s so late in 2023 she’s just rounding up. That’ll do. The doctor's history has been made into a jigsaw puzzle. Don't expect any of it to make sense.
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Post by sherlock on Dec 10, 2023 21:51:43 GMT
Right so 60th specials- The Star Beast comes in strong in the now grand tradition of messing up RTD era by forgetting the Series 1 year jump. As Sylvia refers to Donna losing her memories 15 years ago. Ah well, maybe this isn’t technically 2023 (despite Redacted 2 leading into being explicitly that year), but vague 2020s. The Giggle then comes in hot to say, no. It’s 2023. So…yeah Sylvia’s just absent minded, or it’s so late in 2023 she’s just rounding up. That’ll do. The doctor's history has been made into a jigsaw puzzle. Don't expect any of it to make sense. Yeah but where’s the fun in that.
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Post by sherlock on Feb 26, 2024 14:25:50 GMT
Updates;
Poppet is in late 2010 as Anwen’s been born but Halloween is a few weeks away yet.
Sabotage is in 2022 near Among Us 3. I’ve shuffled Death in Venice back a bit to during Among Us 3 to allow some time between the two.
The two Postcards from Mr Colchester are also added. Basically acting as prologue and epilogue to Among Us.
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