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Post by bobod on Sept 5, 2018 13:24:33 GMT
Well apologies but that's news to me. We've done that *pretty much every time* we've had a Dark Shadows announcement to make and no one has ever said this before. So I did what I've always done. It caught me out in the past as well (why I tried to Warn you) but agreed not sure why its become an issue.
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mark687
The previous DS threads I've created show the history of us always doing this. Joe *sends me the news story text in advance* so I can quote it. He always has. I've done nothing different so am not best pleased right now.
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Post by mark687 on Sept 5, 2018 13:30:46 GMT
It caught me out in the past as well (why I tried to Warn you) but agreed not sure why its become an issue.
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mark687
The previous DS threads I've created show the history of us always doing this. Joe *sends me the news story text in advance* so I can quote it. He always has. I've done nothing different. Agreed I Don't Think there in anything wrong in copying publicly released information (in whole or part) but apparently there is.
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mark687
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Post by jasonward on Sept 5, 2018 13:32:22 GMT
It caught me out in the past as well (why I tried to Warn you) but agreed not sure why its become an issue.
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mark687
The previous DS threads I've created show the history of us always doing this. Joe *sends me the news story text in advance* so I can quote it. He always has. I've done nothing different so am not best pleased right now. If he sends you the text with the intention that you repost it in whole, then that's fine, but we (the moderation team) would need to know this, officially, from someone at BF.
As for those saying that they don't know the rules, well, they are fairly few, short and easy to follow and announcement ribbon of the forum contains a link to them.
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Post by jasonward on Sept 5, 2018 13:35:04 GMT
The previous DS threads I've created show the history of us always doing this. Joe *sends me the news story text in advance* so I can quote it. He always has. I've done nothing different. Agreed I Don't Think there in anything wrong in copying publicly relaxed information (in whole or part) but apparently there is.
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mark687
It's illegal, it's copyright violation, a book is publicly released, an audio play is publicly release, that "release" does not allow anyone to make unauthorised copies.
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Post by mark687 on Sept 5, 2018 13:42:51 GMT
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Post by bobod on Sept 5, 2018 14:18:03 GMT
The previous DS threads I've created show the history of us always doing this. Joe *sends me the news story text in advance* so I can quote it. He always has. I've done nothing different so am not best pleased right now. If he sends you the text with the intention that you repost it in whole, then that's fine, but we (the moderation team) would need to know this, officially, from someone at BF. Would this be the same you (the moderation team) that have never challenged the many times I've done this before? Look at the previous threads! Would the fact I am usually credited on the official Big Finish packaging as the Production Assistant be official enough or Big Finishy enough?
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Post by Zagreus on Sept 5, 2018 14:18:07 GMT
Oh my! just woke up and saw everyone buzzing around as it were. Felt like I'd missed something... and have now read the news! Tony & Cassandra 2 & 3! Bloodline release date! Windcliff! Thirteen! A mysterious unannounced project! And presumably more anthologies in between all those! That's Dark Shadows handled for the next three years or so Oh man what great news to wake up to! Makes me wanna watch the show at work today heh
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Post by Zagreus on Sept 5, 2018 15:49:52 GMT
I just realized that September 2021 would be 15 years of Dark Shadows at Big Finish
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Post by Ela on Sept 5, 2018 16:40:59 GMT
Dark Shadows - The Future of Collinsport is unveiled! ---- SNIP ----Moderator comment : Not only is it illegal to copy whole articles and repost them, it is against the rules.
Well apologies but that's news to me. We've done that *pretty much every time* we've had a Dark Shadows announcement to make and no one has ever said this before. So I did what I've always done. If you've copied as much text as was in your original post previous times and we missed it, that's our bad as moderators. It is against the rules to quote as much text as was in your original post. Good enough to post a snippet and provide a link to the post in future, please.
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Post by Ela on Sept 5, 2018 16:52:09 GMT
If he sends you the text with the intention that you repost it in whole, then that's fine, but we (the moderation team) would need to know this, officially, from someone at BF. Would this be the same you (the moderation team) that have never challenged the many times I've done this before? Look at the previous threads! Would the fact I am usually credited on the official Big Finish packaging as the Production Assistant be official enough or Big Finishy enough? We haven't said anything before because we missed it. I did see a few times where you posted as much information as the original post on this thread, having just looked at a few of your recent announcement threads. But it's not necessary. You don't need to copy and post the entire text from an announcement page to announce a release here. A short teaser and link to the original material suffices. Thanks for reading.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 5, 2018 17:50:01 GMT
It's fine as it is. There was a lot of news that people can discuss here. There is already a Bloodline thread and we can use the existing Tony and Cassandra thread until there is a need for one for each of the new boxsets. Sorry it's not fine, as I say in the edited post, it is against the rules to wholesale copy articles and it is illegal. It isn't an article, it is a press release. When has it become illegal to use press releases? Isn't it the purpose of press releases to be quoted, cut & pasted and spread as widely as possible? Tempests and tea pots.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 5, 2018 17:51:41 GMT
And honestly, Moderator red text has killed my excitement in talking about it.
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Post by bobod on Sept 5, 2018 18:18:03 GMT
Sorry it's not fine, as I say in the edited post, it is against the rules to wholesale copy articles and it is illegal. It isn't an article, it is a press release. When has it become illegal to use press releases? Isn't it the purpose of press releases to be quoted, cut & pasted and spread as widely as possible? Tempests and tea pots. Exactly. One would almost think it was utterly ridiculous jobsworth nonsense.
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Post by bobod on Sept 5, 2018 18:19:48 GMT
And honestly, Moderator red text has killed my excitement in talking about it. And mine for even being on here. The behaviour that gets excused on this forum and THAT'S what gets picked up on. Major fail.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 5, 2018 18:23:40 GMT
It isn't an article, it is a press release. When has it become illegal to use press releases? Isn't it the purpose of press releases to be quoted, cut & pasted and spread as widely as possible? Tempests and tea pots. Exactly. One would almost think it was utterly ridiculous jobsworth nonsense. And how can one commit plagiarism for something that doesn’t even have a credited author or someone with a byline? They are press materials.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 5, 2018 18:24:03 GMT
And honestly, Moderator red text has killed my excitement in talking about it. And mine for even being on here. The behaviour that gets excused on this forum and THAT'S what gets picked up on. Major fail. Agreed.
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Post by Rob Morris on Sept 5, 2018 18:27:14 GMT
Aaaannyyyyywayyyy....
Dark Shadows: Bloodline (stretching the definition of "Coming Soon" since 2016) finally has a release scheduled and there'll be many more character teasers to come. And it's a belter even if I do say so myself.
Two more series of the sublime Tony and Cassandra Mysteries (seriously... listen to the trailers, I love Jerry and Lara together).
Dark Shadows: Windcliff in the works (and it's going to be as different from Bloodline as that is to Bloodlust - we never rest on our laurels here in the attic room).
Plus another mysterious project and *then* another miniseries: Dark Shadows: Thirteen. (Which I know a little about and am looking forward to enormously - not least coz I can watch someone else do the work on that one.)
We are living in a golden age. So jubilate! Ignore the buzzkill posts and wait eagerly for guaranteed Collinsport-related scares and twists!
(And to think... you thought it had all died off didn't you? I've had to bite my tongue so much sometimes...)
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Post by bobod on Sept 5, 2018 18:29:01 GMT
Would this be the same you (the moderation team) that have never challenged the many times I've done this before? Look at the previous threads! Would the fact I am usually credited on the official Big Finish packaging as the Production Assistant be official enough or Big Finishy enough? We haven't said anything before because we missed it. I did see a few times where you posted as much information as the original post on this thread, having just looked at a few of your recent announcement threads. But it's not necessary. You don't need to copy and post the entire text from an announcement page to announce a release here. A short teaser and link to the original material suffices. Thanks for reading. What isn't necessary is being told in red ink that what I did is illegal. That's what isn't necessary. What colour ink will the apology be in?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 18:32:21 GMT
Bobod who is credited on the releases, does the official podcasts, been BF's rep for DS at conventions....I think asking him for written permission from BF is overboard. Trust me, Joe and Davy D will not be suing Robert any time soon.
If you don't know his credentials, you can ask - he's more "official" than a lot of people sitting on the forum with "Big Finish Creative Team" under their names.
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Post by Ela on Sept 5, 2018 18:33:33 GMT
Aaaannyyyyywayyyy.... Dark Shadows: Bloodline (stretching the definition of "Coming Soon" since 2016) finally has a release scheduled and there'll be many more character teasers to come. And it's a belter even if I do say so myself. Two more series of the sublime Tony and Cassandra Mysteries (seriously... listen to the trailers, I love Jerry and Lara together). Dark Shadows: Windcliff in the works (and it's going to be as different from Bloodline as that is to Bloodlust - we never rest on our laurels here in the attic room). Plus another mysterious project and *then* another miniseries: Dark Shadows: Thirteen. (Which I know a little about and am looking forward to enormously - not least coz I can watch someone else do the work on that one.) We are living in a golden age. So jubilate! Ignore the buzzkill posts and wait eagerly for guaranteed Collinsport-related scares and twists! (And to think... you thought it had all died off didn't you? I've had to bite my tongue so much sometimes...) We'll have to see if I can get around to listening to these, eventually. I still haven't listened to most of the Dark Shadows I bought on sale to sample, but the snippets of Tony and Cassandra I have heard did sound interesting.
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