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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 20, 2019 7:56:02 GMT
I love Wilf’s description of the Doctor in “No Place”, interesting that he’s basically saying the same thing as Sylvia but in a positive way.
The peal Of Thunder during the “Manservant” scene LITERSLLY made me jump, because ai was outside and it was overcast.
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Post by shallacatop on May 20, 2019 15:23:49 GMT
The limited edition set is lovely, much better than the previous ones. I’m slightly disappointed that they only got June Hudson to do art for One Mile Down. It makes sense, as the other stories are Earth bound, but the art is so gorgeous I’d love for her to have tackled the Doctor and Donna.
The conversation about Wilf a few days ago wasn’t really addressed, though. James Goss was asked to keep Wilf in mind in case they get Bernard Cribbins, perhaps as a cameo. At the storyline stage they realised they’d got him on board, so the script was written with him in as it is. So it seems he didn’t share intimate scenes with the other leads purely because they weren’t written; nothing to do with scheduling or the like. That’s a shame.
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Post by tuigirl on May 20, 2019 17:47:42 GMT
The limited edition set is lovely, much better than the previous ones. I’m slightly disappointed that they only got June Hudson to do art for One Mile Down. It makes sense, as the other stories are Earth bound, but the art is so gorgeous I’d love for her to have tackled the Doctor and Donna. The conversation about Wilf a few days ago wasn’t really addressed, though. James Goss was asked to keep Wilf in mind in case they get Bernard Cribbins, perhaps as a cameo. At the storyline stage they realised they’d got him on board, so the script was written with him in as it is. So it seems he didn’t share intimate scenes with the other leads purely because they weren’t written; nothing to do with scheduling or the like. That’s a shame.Yeah, I agree with you there. Hopefully he can come fully on board at the (hopefully) not too far off next time.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 20, 2019 20:10:38 GMT
My only gripe about “No Place” is that no one told Sylvia off for being nasty, even a simple “I met your mother at a dance here,” from Wilf would have been enough.
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Post by mark687 on May 20, 2019 20:43:47 GMT
My only gripe about “No Place” is that no one told Sylvia off for being nasty, even a simple “I met your mother at a dance here,” from Wilf would have been enough. Thank you that's always been a problem for me with Sylvia, she's envious of what the other half have got, and resentful of her own Father, Daughter. and her own life choices.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 20, 2019 20:56:19 GMT
My only gripe about “No Place” is that no one told Sylvia off for being nasty, even a simple “I met your mother at a dance here,” from Wilf would have been enough. Thank you that's always been a problem for me with Sylvia, she's envious of what the other half have got, and resentful of her own Father, Daughter. and her own life choices.
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That envy really came across when she started kvetching about how the Doctor simply waltzed up and brought the manse, a nice subtle reminder that while the Doctor has no need for money, he has a lot of it. |
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Post by fingersmash on May 21, 2019 3:43:22 GMT
My only gripe about “No Place” is that no one told Sylvia off for being nasty, even a simple “I met your mother at a dance here,” from Wilf would have been enough. Thank you that's always been a problem for me with Sylvia, she's envious of what the other half have got, and resentful of her own Father, Daughter. and her own life choices.
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But isn't that the point? Sylvia is such a terrible person and it effects Donna for the absolute worst. |
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 21, 2019 5:17:34 GMT
Thank you that's always been a problem for me with Sylvia, she's envious of what the other half have got, and resentful of her own Father, Daughter. and her own life choices.
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But isn't that the point? Sylvia is such a terrible person and it effects Donna for the absolute worst. And unlike everyone other passingly nasty person in Doctor Who, she never gets her comeuppance. |
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Post by masterdoctor on May 21, 2019 5:25:22 GMT
Wait since when is Sylvia actually a bad person. She's not nice in any way, shape, or form, but it has always been obvious that her actions were done out of love for her daughter and her hatred of The Doctor was because she thought Donna wasn't safe with him. Even The Doctor knew that hence why he willingly left after Sylvia kicked him out after Donna's memory loss.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on May 21, 2019 8:47:08 GMT
It felt like Sylvia was just written as Francine Jones in this.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 21, 2019 10:59:10 GMT
Wait since when is Sylvia actually a bad person. She's not nice in any way, shape, or form, but it has always been obvious that her actions were done out of love for her daughter and her hatred of The Doctor was because she thought Donna wasn't safe with him. Even The Doctor knew that hence why he willingly left after Sylvia kicked him out after Donna's memory loss. Because she is unrelentingly critical of both her daughter and her father, she’s bossy, actively ignorant and just a little greedy - After the Doctor spells out how they need to exorcise the house to help the former custodian, how Wilf has spent the ENTIRE story talking about how even he thought it was evil (and this is Wilf, the living embodiment of optimism) deserved to be left in the past if not destroyed, she gets possessive over a house she literally does not own. Maybe, just maybe, because I see the impact similar parents have on children every day I’m biased against her. |
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Post by muckypup on May 21, 2019 11:36:40 GMT
well I hate to say it but yet again Big Finish continues to disappoint...…
premium product but yet again no premium content for downloaders...….
why oh why do we not get a digital booklet, of all the artwork, storyboards and writings...…that make this a premium product……
if its not the same they should have it on a different page
its not right and its not fair......it should say that digital versions will contain none of the premium booklet content.
ok rant over...…...
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Post by fingersmash on May 21, 2019 12:35:54 GMT
well I hate to say it but yet again Big Finish continues to disappoint...… premium product but yet again no premium content for downloaders...…. why oh why do we not get a digital booklet, of all the artwork, storyboards and writings...…that make this a premium product…… if its not the same they should have it on a different page its not right and its not fair......it should say that digital versions will contain none of the premium booklet content. ok rant over...…... I agree with you but from the start they said that the downloads wouldn't have the extra items. I even made a point to ask them and posted the response here. Of course I'd love to have the premium items but I still got three stories of good quality and an engaging BTS disc out of it. |
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Post by davygallagher on May 21, 2019 15:59:04 GMT
I loved some of the little elements like James Goss referencing Carol Smilie in No Place, a reference that's hideously out of date now but would be 100% on point when Series 4 was on air. Writing the set as though it's very much a part of the 2008 run is a bit of a recurring theme too, as Donna getting told "there's something on your back" shows, retroactively foreshadowing Turn Left.
Dippy the Diplodocus was also a welcome addition in The Creeping Death - Dippy's been up here in Glasgow on loan from the Natural History Museum and I saw her last month so that was nice to have in the story.
I've enjoyed this set quite a lot overall. It's not reinventing the wheel and I don't like it quite as much as the superb Vol 1 but it's still pretty fab. Tennant's one of the Doctors I like the least despite loving him as an actor but I really appreciate him coming back so much when he patently doesn't need to. It's a treat for those who do love him and if it means I get some more Donna - I'm all for it! She's up there with Ian and Barbara as maybe my fave companions ever, so to get 6 more Donna stories in the past two years (with both sets of hers coming on my birthday) well, what a gift.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 21, 2019 20:23:20 GMT
Of all the deluxe editions I've seen from Big Finish, I think this one is the best designed and most well thought out.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on May 21, 2019 20:57:26 GMT
I particularly liked how the beginning of “No Place” set you up for a rug pull later on, it opens with the Doctor and Donna pretending to be a married couple and larking about making up silly names for each other and even sets us up to imagine a running gag, Donna trying to get the Doctor to kiss her and him avoiding it in more and more convoluted manners and WHOOSH one comment from Wilf later and no, it’s not “the comedy episode”.
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Post by Who Review on May 22, 2019 10:37:42 GMT
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Post by number13 on May 22, 2019 11:30:14 GMT
A few days After my Birthday 
Regards
mark687
And a more than a few years after the last birthday I'll admit to...  |
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Post by number13 on May 22, 2019 12:13:04 GMT
No Place
(Apologies if I repeat what others have said but I've only skim-read the thread to avoid spoilers on the rest of the set.  )
James Goss does it again - I've yet to hear the rest but if that isn't my favourite story of this set I'll be very surprised! As I was surprised by 'No Place' - I went in expecting a comedy episode with Pumpkin and Smoochykins (or whatever other luuuurve-names they were using  ) and yes that was part of it; the 'Haunted Makeover' side of the story was fun satire and so of its 2000s TV era when you couldn't channel-hop without running into some property show or other - but none like this!
And then WOW what a terrific and sometimes actually scary haunted-house story with a growing sense of dread and some stonking jump-scares! I'll freely admit that when the first scare hit me (alone late at night in a quiet room, with headphones on and volume up) I jumped about six inches and said something Anglo-Saxon and fully justifed - I love ghost stories and this one should come with a health warning!!  Brilliant. (For those who don't usually follow the Monthly Range, I highly recommend James Goss's 'Ghost Walk' if you enjoyed this one as I did.)
I thought the garden/pit scenes had a definite 'Quatermass' vibe about them (which is always a good thing) and how wonderful to hear Bernard Cribbins again and what a good idea (I thought) to place Wilf mostly working with the Doctor in the garden/pit side of the story, where he was such a dependable, reassuring presence in contrast to the madness happening in the house. And after the dust settled and the 'ghosts' were banished, Wilf toasting marshmallows (still in their bag) was a lovely way to finish.
Fabulous from everyone and cracking sound design (now I've got over the shock it gave me, thank you so much Howard Carter Outstanding!) |
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Post by TinDogPodcast on May 23, 2019 6:13:53 GMT
Are there individual story trailers?
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) and yes that was part of it; the 'Haunted Makeover' side of the story was fun satire and so of its 2000s TV era when you couldn't channel-hop without running into some property show or other - but none like this!
Brilliant. (For those who don't usually follow the Monthly Range, I highly recommend James Goss's 'Ghost Walk' if you enjoyed this one as I did.)
