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Post by mark687 on Nov 15, 2015 19:09:33 GMT
First details of the 2nd Boxset revealed.
From its Product page:
2.1 Legion of the Lost by John Dorney
2.2 A Thing of Guile by Phil Mulryne
2.3 The Neverwhen by Matt Fitton
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Post by mbt66 on Nov 15, 2015 19:15:00 GMT
First details of the 2nd Boxset revealed.
From the its Product page:
2.1 Legion of the Lost by John Dorney
2.2 A Thing of Guile by Phil Mulryne
2.3 The Neverwhen by Matt Fitton
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Hi Mark687 Why is that a spoiler?
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Post by mark687 on Nov 15, 2015 19:19:20 GMT
My Theory
Dialogue from the TV EP End of Time " The Could've King and his Army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres". I'm thinking "The Neverwhen" refers to them
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Post by mbt66 on Nov 15, 2015 20:05:39 GMT
Dialogue from the TV EP End of Time
" The Could've King and his Army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres". I'm thinking "The Neverwhen" refers to them
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Thank you for the explanation.
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Post by david on Nov 15, 2015 20:33:47 GMT
Speculation isn't spoiler And if BF put it out there...it's certainly not a spoiler!
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Post by mark687 on Nov 15, 2015 20:48:12 GMT
Speculation isn't spoiler And if BF put it out there...it's certainly not a spoiler! Changed it to Theory David
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Post by david on Nov 15, 2015 20:54:22 GMT
Speculation isn't spoiler And if BF put it out there...it's certainly not a spoiler! Changed it to Theory David
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To be fair to you - BF and the BBC both give away a bit too much for me at times in their PR. The Beeb have already revealed - as have DWM - something BIG for Ep 12 which I think is nuts.... but vague;y reminiscent titles are still OK to be non-spoilery I think.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 22:33:17 GMT
Changed it to Theory David
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To be fair to you - BF and the BBC both give away a bit too much for me at times in their PR. The Beeb have already revealed - as have DWM - something BIG for Ep 12 which I think is nuts.... but vague;y reminiscent titles are still OK to be non-spoilery I think. Eh, with the BBC, it's near finale time, it's time to drum up some publicity, particularly given Clara's upcoming depature. As for Big Finish, I think they do a great job tantalising their audience in advance.
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Post by david on Nov 15, 2015 22:49:59 GMT
To be fair to you - BF and the BBC both give away a bit too much for me at times in their PR. The Beeb have already revealed - as have DWM - something BIG for Ep 12 which I think is nuts.... but vague;y reminiscent titles are still OK to be non-spoilery I think. Eh, with the BBC, it's near finale time, it's time to drum up some publicity, particularly given Clara's upcoming depature. As for Big Finish, I think they do a great job tantalising their audience in advance. What advantage did revealing that Sylvester McCoy appeared in both Doom Coalition and The Last Adventure ahead of time have? Those boxsets sell themselves. They blew a surprise reveal - twice - for what? Where's the tantalising there? Wouldn't it have been great to have those as suprise reveals like in Klein's Story or The Wormery? As for the Beeb - we've got two full eps before the finale but they've already revealed the setting for it. Their spoiler on the setting is nothing to do with Clara - though they've also spoiled news on part of her departure and whether or not she even lasts till then. This is the same team that publicised The Impossible Astronaut with promo pics of The Doctor regenerating on the beach - completely blowing the cliffhanger. This is the same team that even DWM have criticised for their incredibly ill-judged completely botched pre-publicity for this years new series with the pathetic "same old, same old" advertising. Just because it's time to start publicising the end of the season doesn't mean they're doing it well.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Nov 15, 2015 23:07:35 GMT
Take a leaf out of the CW's advertising for Arrow et al, I have NO idea what is coming up for the finale, even allowing for reveals like the LOT material and John Constantine.
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Post by david on Nov 15, 2015 23:17:16 GMT
Were the episode titles debuted at the Excel convention? I thought BF said there'd be some announcement from there this weekend.
By the sounds of it from the con, Jenna getting rudely heckled and Moffat telling an austic boy who slagged Matt Smith to "go to charm school" were the big talking points!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 23:26:31 GMT
Eh, with the BBC, it's near finale time, it's time to drum up some publicity, particularly given Clara's upcoming depature. As for Big Finish, I think they do a great job tantalising their audience in advance. What advantage did revealing that Sylvester McCoy appeared in both Doom Coalition and The Last Adventure ahead of time have? Those boxsets sell themselves. They blew a surprise reveal - twice - for what? Where's the tantalising there? Wouldn't it have been great to have those as suprise reveals like in Klein's Story or The Wormery? As for the Beeb - we've got two full eps before the finale but they've already revealed the setting for it. Their spoiler on the setting is nothing to do with Clara - though they've also spoiled news on part of her departure and whether or not she even lasts till then. This is the same team that publicised The Impossible Astronaut with promo pics of The Doctor regenerating on the beach - completely blowing the cliffhanger. This is the same team that even DWM have criticised for their incredibly ill-judged completely botched pre-publicity for this years new series with the pathetic "same old, same old" advertising. Just because it's time to start publicising the end of the season doesn't mean they're doing it well. Doom Coliation was designed as a jumping on point for new listeners and having Seven in the trailer to remind listeners of the TV movie was a smart move: the story of Eight continues beyond the TV screen and a reminder of Eight's moral stance in The Night of The Doctor, as well as providing a nice link the monthly range to customers who came onboard with Dark Eyes and The Night of The Doctor. I don't think it hurts particulary since Doom Coliation was released VERY close to the start of series nine when intrest in Doctor Who is high. Some people are casual customers as well and announcing a new Time Lord villian at play in both Eight's adventures and the main range is also a nice lure back. The same with The Last Adventure - it was always going to generate a lot of intrest and new customers and teasing out Sylvester McCoy's involvement is a nice lure, particulary to international customers who aren't used to and are skeptical of the audio drama format, as well as to counter some reasonable skepticism around how such a tale would work given how Time and The Rani opens. As for the BBC, yes, the release of those photos was misfortune (I can't remember any major gaffs since then), but I wasn't aware that the BBC had revealed the setting for the finale - DWM was incredibly wonderfully vague about the finale. Still, isn't that part of the long walk to the finale? And doesn't whether Clara departs in Face The Raven add to that? Doctor Who needs to stay relevant and a jolt like that is a nice shock to the audience. For me, the trailers and teasers this year have been incredibly tantalising and exciting, but has the wider publicity in the UK this year been somewhat wanting?
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Nov 16, 2015 0:20:02 GMT
Were the episode titles debuted at the Excel convention? I thought BF said there'd be some announcement from there this weekend. By the sounds of it from the con, Jenna getting rudely heckled and Moffat telling an austic boy who slagged Matt Smith to "go to charm school" were the big talking points! What?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2015 9:33:23 GMT
What advantage did revealing that Sylvester McCoy appeared in both Doom Coalition and The Last Adventure ahead of time have? Those boxsets sell themselves. They blew a surprise reveal - twice - for what? Where's the tantalising there? Wouldn't it have been great to have those as suprise reveals like in Klein's Story or The Wormery? As for the Beeb - we've got two full eps before the finale but they've already revealed the setting for it. Their spoiler on the setting is nothing to do with Clara - though they've also spoiled news on part of her departure and whether or not she even lasts till then. This is the same team that publicised The Impossible Astronaut with promo pics of The Doctor regenerating on the beach - completely blowing the cliffhanger. This is the same team that even DWM have criticised for their incredibly ill-judged completely botched pre-publicity for this years new series with the pathetic "same old, same old" advertising. Just because it's time to start publicising the end of the season doesn't mean they're doing it well. Doom Coliation was designed as a jumping on point for new listeners and having Seven in the trailer to remind listeners of the TV movie was a smart move: the story of Eight continues beyond the TV screen and a reminder of Eight's moral stance in The Night of The Doctor, as well as providing a nice link the monthly range to customers who came onboard with Dark Eyes and The Night of The Doctor. I don't think it hurts particulary since Doom Coliation was released VERY close to the start of series nine when intrest in Doctor Who is high. Some people are casual customers as well and announcing a new Time Lord villian at play in both Eight's adventures and the main range is also a nice lure back. The same with The Last Adventure - it was always going to generate a lot of intrest and new customers and teasing out Sylvester McCoy's involvement is a nice lure, particulary to international customers who aren't used to and are skeptical of the audio drama format, as well as to counter some reasonable skepticism around how such a tale would work given how Time and The Rani opens. As for the BBC, yes, the release of those photos was misfortune (I can't remember any major gaffs since then), but I wasn't aware that the BBC had revealed the setting for the finale - DWM was incredibly wonderfully vague about the finale. Still, isn't that part of the long walk to the finale? And doesn't whether Clara departs in Face The Raven add to that? Doctor Who needs to stay relevant and a jolt like that is a nice shock to the audience. For me, the trailers and teasers this year have been incredibly tantalising and exciting, but has the wider publicity in the UK this year been somewhat wanting? I'd just like to add: Detailed synopysis on the box sets or hints of what is to come (teasing out Flip's decision, The Entropy Plague, etc) give us a sense of the story to come - but I wouldn't say they really take away from the action of the story. I do question revealing details about the next War Doctor boxset, but does it really take away too much of our? We know a decision that is found to be monstrous - and that it will add to The War Doctor's melahcony and self-loathing. Knowing that he stands in the shadow of it in the next box set isn't really all that much of a spoiler and know we know that it will be amongst the darkest elements of the war: the Neverwheres which and will wear him down further into the resigned life-weary figure of The Day of Doctor and that's the point of these boxsets (even if they might not overtly show the entire journey)....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 11:25:22 GMT
...and they've let John Dorney upon the Time War, God help us all. (I still haven't forgiven him for Second Chances!)
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Nov 17, 2015 20:53:18 GMT
I still want War to end up in a historical (or quasi-historical) set slightly apart from the War and see how he reacts. Hell, a Jago and Lightfoot and War could be interesting, especially if he spends the box set trying to avoid saying who he is.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 17, 2015 21:42:55 GMT
I still want War to end up in a historical (or quasi-historical) set slightly apart from the War and see how he reacts. Hell, a Jago and Lightfoot and War could be interesting, especially if he spends the box set trying to avoid saying who he is. Jago & Litefoot & Strax....& War would be hilarious.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Nov 22, 2015 9:23:59 GMT
War being the one who "humiliates"Strax and drives him to a life of caring for others might have some dramatic irony.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 22, 2015 11:01:19 GMT
I still want War to end up in a historical (or quasi-historical) set slightly apart from the War and see how he reacts. The War Doctor in World War 2 would be interesting.
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Post by Ela on Nov 22, 2015 17:22:53 GMT
To be fair to you - BF and the BBC both give away a bit too much for me at times in their PR. The Beeb have already revealed - as have DWM - something BIG for Ep 12 which I think is nuts.... but vaguely reminiscent titles are still OK to be non-spoilery I think. I agree that sometimes too much is given away. I wasn't upset by the Seventh Doctor thing in Doom Coalition and The Last Adventure trailers. But sometimes, Big Finish makes the assumption, in doing the extras, that anyone listening to a release has heard what came before, and I have had some surprises spoiled for me in that way. Also, for the Doctor Who 50th anniversary television special that was shown in theatres, there were so many advance clips revealed that were actually part of the episode, that some of it felt a bit anticlimactic to me when I actually saw the clips in the context of the episode. So I'm not as hot to watch trailers as I used to be, and I avoid speculation thread more than I used to.
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