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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 17:01:30 GMT
Chiming into the discussion if Benny is distinctive from River- in my humble opinion, except that they are both sassy space archeologists, they are quite different character wise. Benny has a love for archeology and takes it serious and she also has a strict moral code. I also don't think Benny has any lasting sexual interests in the Doctor beside her one outing with 8. Her relationship with the Doctor is also very different, it is more of mutual respect and understanding (without the constant teasing). River was raised as an assassin, does things just for fun, has studied archeology over several afternoons (or so she says), she can be quite vindictive and psychopathic (from her upbringing) and her ethics are malleable at best. They have a different biological makeup and are played by two very distinct actresses. If they appear the same, that is, in my opinion, the fault of the writers. I really hope they do a good job and take these differences into account when they do the meeting between the two characters in the anniversery special. We will see... We don’t know if River and the Doctor have sex it could be something totally different to us and the way we do it..they might just spend the night doing wonderful tapestries and quilting or knitting.Benny does though. I think they have enough differences in character going by the audios I have heard of Bennie.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 17:04:37 GMT
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 18, 2018 17:07:50 GMT
We don’t know if River and the Doctor have sex it could be something totally different to us and the way we do it..they might just spend the night doing wonderful tapestries and quilting or knitting.Benny does though. I think they have enough differences in character going by the audios I have heard of Bennie. Of course you are right- all that teasing and handcuffs could just be Moffats dirty humour... But the same is true for Bennie, because in the book it just fades to black and we do not know more after the first kiss, and Bennie said herself they just "shook hands". So yeah, up to everybodies more or less dirty imagination to fill the blanks.
I for one hope all these things are left to imagination and we do not get into too much detail. There is such a thing as too much information.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 17:12:12 GMT
We don’t know if River and the Doctor have sex it could be something totally different to us and the way we do it..they might just spend the night doing wonderful tapestries and quilting or knitting.Benny does though. I think they have enough differences in character going by the audios I have heard of Bennie. Of course you are right- all that teasing and handcuffs could just be Moffats dirty humour... But the same is true for Bennie, because in the book it just fades to black and we do not know more after the first kiss, and Bennie said herself they just "shook hands". So yeah, up to everybodies more or less dirty imagination to fill the blanks.
I for one hope all these things are left to imagination and we do not get into too much detail. There is such a thing as too much information. I haven’t heard the Bennie is it Summer of Love yet though
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 18, 2018 17:22:34 GMT
I haven’t heard the Bennie is it Summer of Love yet though Missing the reference... I only know a music festival here in Vienna by that name...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 17:24:58 GMT
I haven’t heard the Bennie is it Summer of Love yet though Missing the reference... I only know a music festival here in Vienna by that name...
I believe there’s an audio that is close to the bone sexuallylol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 17:26:32 GMT
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 18, 2018 17:28:03 GMT
Missing the reference... I only know a music festival here in Vienna by that name...
I believe there’s an audio that is close to the bone sexuallylol Propably not my type of listening material...
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Post by bobod on Oct 18, 2018 17:32:02 GMT
What, if anything, would you prefer to hear from this range? Stories where River can stand on her own two feet without the need for the Doctor to turn up in every box set, and without this bizarre pandering to fans, slotting new stories into the background of ones that are 40-50+ years old. River Song is one of the BF ranges that appeals the most to young listeners so I'm honestly very confused why they're taking her down this route, with ideas for stories that nobody ever asked for in the first place. All this series needs is maybe a small returning element in each box set, maybe a TV monster that can get a bit of an expansion on. It's River Song, it should sell itself. There's no need for such a godawful gimmick that caters almost exclusively for older fans, based around stories that are deemed 'classics' via received wisdom. "Pandering to fans" and "stories nobody ever asked for in the first place" seems an odd conjunction.
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 18, 2018 17:32:17 GMT
Have you listened to that one? This has the potential to be very inmature and full of silly humour.
I am very choosy concerning my erotica....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 17:33:43 GMT
Stories where River can stand on her own two feet without the need for the Doctor to turn up in every box set, and without this bizarre pandering to fans, slotting new stories into the background of ones that are 40-50+ years old. River Song is one of the BF ranges that appeals the most to young listeners so I'm honestly very confused why they're taking her down this route, with ideas for stories that nobody ever asked for in the first place. All this series needs is maybe a small returning element in each box set, maybe a TV monster that can get a bit of an expansion on. It's River Song, it should sell itself. There's no need for such a godawful gimmick that caters almost exclusively for older fans, based around stories that are deemed 'classics' via received wisdom. "Pandering to fans" and "stories nobody ever asked for in the first place" seems an odd conjunction. I think the River sets have been fantastically entertaining and am willing to go where BF are taking them.
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Post by bobod on Oct 18, 2018 17:43:37 GMT
"Pandering to fans" and "stories nobody ever asked for in the first place" seems an odd conjunction. I think the River sets have been fantastically entertaining and am willing to go where BF are taking them. So have I. I'm a bit behind with them (well with Big Finish in general) as I listen to them on the move and I've been laid up lately.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 18:21:58 GMT
I was a bit apprehensive to begin with as well the jago story soumded pure fan service-y. But i feel a bit better by the sound of the second story as it sounds like a fun story thats just coincidentally set at the same time as a doctor who story. i think it could work anyway
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 18, 2018 19:41:10 GMT
I think the River sets have been fantastically entertaining and am willing to go where BF are taking them. So have I. I'm a bit behind with them (well with Big Finish in general) as I listen to them on the move and I've been laid up lately. I hope you are doing well.
And speaking as someone who has enjoyed the River Song box sets, please BF continue what you are doing.
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Post by number13 on Oct 18, 2018 20:52:49 GMT
Chiming into the discussion if Benny is distinctive from River- in my humble opinion, except that they are both sassy space archeologists, they are quite different character wise. Benny has a love for archeology and takes it serious and she also has a strict moral code. I also don't think Benny has any lasting sexual interests in the Doctor beside her one outing with 8. Her relationship with the Doctor is also very different, it is more of mutual respect and understanding (without the constant teasing). River was raised as an assassin, does things just for fun, has studied archeology over several afternoons (or so she says), she can be quite vindictive and psychopathic (from her upbringing) and her ethics are malleable at best. They have a different biological makeup and are played by two very distinct actresses. If they appear the same, that is, in my opinion, the fault of the writers. I really hope they do a good job and take these differences into account when they do the meeting between the two characters in the anniversery special. We will see... We don’t know if River and the Doctor have sex it could be something totally different to us and the way we do it..they might just spend the night doing wonderful tapestries and quilting or knitting.Benny does though. I think they have enough differences in character going by the audios I have heard of Bennie. Oh no not the "looming" nonsense again...
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Post by OneTen on Oct 19, 2018 7:40:46 GMT
They're primary focuses are either fun or obligation, they're quick with the quip, personnel affections of others are used against them or by them. and they both tend to go scorched earth with things (though Benny probably acknowledges the cost of actions and events better)
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True, there are certainly similarities there that hadn't immediately come to mind for me. But those attributes are also common to a number of other characters - not least the Doctor! And I think the distinctions tuigirl and number13 have identified are quite core differences.
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Post by OneTen on Oct 19, 2018 7:44:02 GMT
I think the River sets have been fantastically entertaining and am willing to go where BF are taking them. Me too. Definitely earned the benefit of the doubt from me (not that I've been doubtful yet).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 15:28:10 GMT
Have you listened to that one? This has the potential to be very inmature and full of silly humour.
I am very choosy concerning my erotica.... no not heard it yet isn’t high on my list hahaha
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Post by constonks on Oct 19, 2018 19:03:49 GMT
It sounds if she is going back to 8 episodes from the news piece so likely one from each classic Doctor(...) Huh, I hadn't actually considered that Series 7 might be four more Classic Crossovers. I figured the "most famous stories" thing was just for Series 6, followed by a box set we currently know nothing about. This one sounds fantastic (and not unlike a story that Jeedai is writing for the upcoming Genesis of Terror collection).
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Oct 24, 2018 9:27:06 GMT
www.bigfinish.com/news/v/carnival-time-for-river-songmore details
More details on the sixth series of The Diary of River Song can be revealed today. The final episode of four in the sixth series is a true celebration of Doctor Who. One could say it’s a carnival... a carnival… of monsters!
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