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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 12:57:44 GMT
Listening to Primoid right now and planning on listening to both stories by the end of the night, and since I have the joy of review copies, I won't say any more than this is so far the strongest ensemble piece I've heard from Big Finish ever. Wow! 'Can't wait to hear it' is something of an understatement.
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Post by Zagreus on May 8, 2019 13:43:25 GMT
Have loaded it up on the phone and will be listening when I have the time today! Very excited!
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 16:15:07 GMT
Just finished Primord, a stunningly explosive masterpiece!
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2019 18:44:35 GMT
Oh, this is gorgeous stuff - with only one problem: I'm spending so much time grinning like an idiot at how excellent Tim T and Jon C are, that I'm going to have to play the first part of episode 1 again (hardly a hardship).
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Post by barnabaslives on May 9, 2019 8:25:03 GMT
I had many misgivings about this, particularly the two major recasts, but it sounds like everyone really went all out to make this something very special. Two riveting stories from two renowed writers, a stunning cast of characters all giving inspired performances, impressive special effects - and I'm in awe of the brilliant music Mr. Nicholas Briggs came up with that's so era-appropriate and creative, and his directing here must be just as awesome as his directing on the 4DAs. Talented, talented man!
Besides all that, it just felt really good to hear the Third Doctor era brought to life so fully and with such care.
The Third Doctor Adventures truly have to be twice-yearly now with all the fantastic possibilities.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 12:56:06 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyed Primord. Once I'd stopped listening to how great everyone sounds, and started listening to the story, I found myself quickly immersed in it. Going into deep spoiler territory, everyone was getting on so terribly well at the start, I was happy to see all was not as it seemed. Had our Liz really gone rogue? Would she be sitting in a cell with Mike Yates at some stage? Of course, things were a lot more complex than that - in fact I found myself getting a little lost during episode 3 - and a lot more satisfying. Great performances from all, especially the 'new' Third Doctor, Liz and The Brigadier (all brilliant), and the glue that holds it all together, the link from what was and what is, Katy Manning. Still groovy as Jo Grant, I firmly believe these magnificent 3DAs wouldn't work half as well without her involvement. Excellent.
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Post by lidar2 on May 9, 2019 16:18:32 GMT
I’d say anything’s possible. Paul Darrow as Hawkins would be nice too, if you can manage it
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Post by doctorkernow on May 9, 2019 18:53:13 GMT
Hello again.
As a sceptic of this venture, I thought at the very least I'd hear the first episode of Primord which Big Finish very kindly have made available.
I can see the work that has gone into recreating the Pertwee era. The cast is excellent. Jon Culshaw brings the Brigadier back to life astonishly well. The music is textbook early Seventies.
Although, I am still dubious about sequels generally. As Mr Dorney replied to my posts last time, if the execution and writing are well done then sequels are not a problem.
The story so far is intriguing and works well using elements of Inferno to explore new ideas and situations. The reintroduction of Liz Shaw is particularly well-written and well played by Daisy Ashford.
I really applaud the care Big Finish have put into creating new stories with older Doctors. I know the majority of Big Finish fans enjoy them and I am glad they exist. However, they are not for me. It is a purely personal thing, I just can't get the original Third Doctor and his supporting cast out of my head.
I know I'm being completely illogical but there you go. Just ignore me and enjoy the return of the early Seventies Who, Bessie, the military, creepy scientific laboratories and monsters.
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Post by masterdoctor on May 9, 2019 20:22:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2019 7:52:02 GMT
Have to admit... Volume 5 is, personally, the BEST! SO! FAR!
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Post by shallacatop on May 10, 2019 12:23:29 GMT
Just finished Primord. The story is fine, it’s traditional and I don’t think it tread new ground and wasn’t as interesting as Inferno. I felt the most interesting strand of story was the stuff with Michael and Liz’s motive, unfortunately that’s not really explored.
But does it matter that much in this case? I’d say not because it’s one of those releases where the different elements of production come together and elevate the story. There’s obviously the novelty of the Brigadier and Liz Shaw. Culshaw is fantastic and really rather uncanny in quite a few places. Ashford gets the sound and tone of Liz across, but really makes it her own and that works well for a character that didn’t stay around for long and time has passed since her tenure with the Doctor.
Treloar and Manning are as great as ever. The sound design and music on this story is brilliant, very authentic and well used. I had to laugh at Nicholas Briggs’ brief cameo in part four, sounding exactly like his awful yet endearing Ninth Doctor impression!
Good stuff.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 11, 2019 23:35:33 GMT
Jon Culshaw.......wow. I closed my eyes and mostly heard Nick Courtney. I know now of us likes to talk about it but if Big Finish continues on making audios with classic Doctors, there will come a point where these Third Doctor Adventures proves to be something of a template.
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Post by glutamodo on May 19, 2019 9:35:07 GMT
I finished the box set a couple of days ago. Excellent discs, all of them. Culshaw? I didn't hear his voice at all. I heard Nick Courtney. One niggle, and I've started to post about it and then cut myself off a couple of times, and that is the 2nd story's use of "CB Radio" - I know how it works in the USA, I own a set. It's low power, short range. Benton talking about contacts all over the world, well that's not the kind of CB radio I know about. What was he using? I know USA CB sets were smuggled into the UK and used there illegally in the 70s, but this sounds like something else.
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Post by tuigirl on May 19, 2019 10:39:52 GMT
Hmmm... I am still not sold on this one. I did listen to the free first episode and I had a few niggles with it (see a few posts above). I get that the team up and the voiceacting of the re-casts are out of this world... But what about the stories? Anyone wants to spoiler me a bit? Are we getting another mind control plot like last time? Great character moments? Funny little scenes? I might be one of the few people who loved the 3rd Doctor but was not really smitten with Inferno to be honest...
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Post by glutamodo on May 19, 2019 11:03:30 GMT
Well, some spoilers: The first story is NOTHING like Inferno was. No parallel universe shenanigans, rather Liz Shaw and her boyfriend experimenting with the same gloop that caused the Primord transformation, and getting infected themselves along the way. And passing that onto the Third Doctor who then willingly helps develop the "disease" further. If I have any problem with it, is that the final resolution seems a bit too quick and easy, (and why the hell didn't Three just give himself the cure once he made it?) but that's rather par for the course with DW.
The second story, well it's all about aliens using broadcast media to affect people. Not quite as strong a story as the first, but I still enjoyed it.
All the way through, Culshaw's Brig is outstanding. I also felt that Katy must have been hitting the helium pipe as she sounds great as Jo. And I'll always love the warm tones of John Levene as Benton.
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Post by ljwilson on May 19, 2019 11:33:39 GMT
I finished the box set a couple of days ago. Excellent discs, all of them. Culshaw? I didn't hear his voice at all. I heard Nick Courtney. One niggle, and I've started to post about it and then cut myself off a couple of times, and that is the 2nd story's use of "CB Radio" - I know how it works in the USA, I own a set. It's low power, short range. Benton talking about contacts all over the world, well that's not the kind of CB radio I know about. What was he using? I know USA CB sets were smuggled into the UK and used there illegally in the 70s, but this sounds like something else. When I was growing up in the 80's in a small rural Lancashire village in the middle of nowhere (the Aussies and Americans on here will rightly say I don't know what the middle of nowhere is) the term 'CB radio' was very generic and related to listening in on conversations and contacting random people using radio equipment helped by a 10ft arial. We just called all this a 'CB'. It was the Internet of the 80's, supported by tape to tape recorders (oh yeah) and Casio watches - one of which I'm wearing now (electro luminescence).
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Post by glutamodo on May 19, 2019 11:56:30 GMT
Middle of nowhere? You should see my work commute, from Douglas, Wyoming to Black Thunder (coal) Mine. This is the space I fill with audio drama!
I figured that that the term of "CB" HAD to mean something else in the UK. Thanks for the personal anecdote there.
Casio Watches.... don't get me started. Oh wait, you already did. I've used them all my life. When their cheapo versions would break the plastic bands off when I was an auto mechanic, I changed to the 5600 series G-shock in the mid 90s. You would be surprised as to how many of them I now own. I have to wear a watch for work, but I never wear the same one two days in a row.
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Post by number13 on May 19, 2019 12:56:16 GMT
I finished the box set a couple of days ago. Excellent discs, all of them. Culshaw? I didn't hear his voice at all. I heard Nick Courtney. One niggle, and I've started to post about it and then cut myself off a couple of times, and that is the 2nd story's use of "CB Radio" - I know how it works in the USA, I own a set. It's low power, short range. Benton talking about contacts all over the world, well that's not the kind of CB radio I know about. What was he using? I know USA CB sets were smuggled into the UK and used there illegally in the 70s, but this sounds like something else. UK CB is very short range. What Benton was doing sounded like shortwave 'ham' radio as it's known in the UK. With good conditions and luck, I think Fiji would be on. (It's not something I'm into myself, but I think that's right.)
So it looks like a casual use of the term "CB" by someone... or it was an early clue placed by Guy Adams that something odd was happening to local radio waves?
Like this: Benton was using a normal British CB (which became legal here around 1980 I think - there's another fact for the UNIT dating controversy ) with a short range and his signals were being hugely boosted to global range by the Vardan signal just as the Prof's mobile phone signal was.
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Post by ljwilson on May 19, 2019 13:43:14 GMT
Middle of nowhere? You should see my work commute, from Douglas, Wyoming to Black Thunder (coal) Mine. This is the space I fill with audio drama!
I figured that that the term of "CB" HAD to mean something else in the UK. Thanks for the personal anecdote there.
Casio Watches.... don't get me started. Oh wait, you already did. I've used them all my life. When their cheapo versions would break the plastic bands off when I was an auto mechanic, I changed to the 5600 series G-shock in the mid 90s. You would be surprised as to how many of them I now own. I have to wear a watch for work, but I never wear the same one two days in a row.
Loving this mate, as if I'm now going to Google 'Douglas to Black Thunder Mine'. In return, I give you Chipping, Lancashire, which us so OLD it even gets a mention in the Doomsday book, and regularly wins the 'Lancashire's best kept village' award. I do love the Casio design, and still wince when the steel strap traps and plucks out the odd arm hair each day.
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Post by glutamodo on May 19, 2019 13:52:27 GMT
You might notice that every single watch in my image above has a cloth strap tied into it, even the lone non-Casio Pepsi one.
That is not common.
At one point I rather thought I would suffer from "hair yankage" in normal usage. But that just did not happen.
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