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Post by david on Nov 18, 2015 23:05:50 GMT
Have you heard ANY of The Early Adventure range? Or the first three Doctor Lost Stories? Or the Third Doctor Box Set? *Every single one* is narrated. It's a few years too late to wonder if it's habit-forming. I've only listened to the first episode of The Third Doctor Adventures and the narration just put me off. I don't think they need it; it's too distracting. It wasn't required in The Third Doctor Adventures and with a recast Third Doc having Treolar narrate the tale was a redundant move - and BF haveacknowledged the reponse and said narration will be dropped going forward in that range. However, it's something thats built into The Early Adventures, The Lost Stories (when dealing with Docs 1-3) and, of course, the Companion Chronicles. If you can't handle narration at all - those will be tricky ranges to get into.
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Post by ausir on Nov 19, 2015 1:59:09 GMT
Where's Magnus to tell us that the Monk is really the Master?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 7:11:30 GMT
I really enjoyed it! :Sigh: One more tale and The Second Doctor must step behind the curtain again.....
I'm a bit suprised at the criticism of Deborah Waltering. For me, she slipped back into the role perfectly and there is no getting around that the actors of the original series have aged.
Loved The Monk reveal and it's nice to see Big Finish continue to expand and advance sixties Who, although it seems we're later in his timeline, if memory serves me right. Tasmin seems to be a fond memory, by now.
The tie-in to Fury From The Deep was particularly painful - a sad reminder that these are tales still new gleamings before The War Games and that little man's fate and his life is sealed.
I wonder how Pavo will return? Perhaps next year in The Third Doctor Adventures to oversee a problem The Time Lords feel that The Doctor can't handle on his own?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Nov 19, 2015 9:20:36 GMT
I've only listened to the first episode of The Third Doctor Adventures and the narration just put me off. I don't think they need it; it's too distracting. It wasn't required in The Third Doctor Adventures and with a recast Third Doc having Treolar narrate the tale was a redundant move - and BF haveacknowledged the reponse and said narration will be dropped going forward in that range. However, it's something thats built into The Early Adventures, The Lost Stories (when dealing with Docs 1-3) and, of course, the Companion Chronicles. If you can't handle narration at all - those will be tricky ranges to get into. It works with the Companion Chronicles because they are more like an audiobook anyway. But it just doesn't mesh with full cast audios in my opinion.
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Post by grazey on Nov 19, 2015 11:15:37 GMT
It wasn't required in The Third Doctor Adventures and with a recast Third Doc having Treolar narrate the tale was a redundant move - and BF haveacknowledged the reponse and said narration will be dropped going forward in that range. However, it's something thats built into The Early Adventures, The Lost Stories (when dealing with Docs 1-3) and, of course, the Companion Chronicles. If you can't handle narration at all - those will be tricky ranges to get into. It works with the Companion Chronicles because they are more like an audiobook anyway. But it just doesn't mesh with full cast audios in my opinion. But you only heard one episode. Just because It doesn't work for the third doctor box set doesn't mean it doesn't work for other stories
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Post by randomjc on Nov 19, 2015 14:35:25 GMT
It wasn't required in The Third Doctor Adventures and with a recast Third Doc having Treolar narrate the tale was a redundant move - and BF haveacknowledged the reponse and said narration will be dropped going forward in that range. However, it's something thats built into The Early Adventures, The Lost Stories (when dealing with Docs 1-3) and, of course, the Companion Chronicles. If you can't handle narration at all - those will be tricky ranges to get into. It works with the Companion Chronicles because they are more like an audiobook anyway. But it just doesn't mesh with full cast audios in my opinion. I think it works for the Sherlock releases.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 19, 2015 15:39:34 GMT
Well, so much for Season 6B. I'm glad BF decided to go in another direction to explain The Two Doctors. Its too bad that events in The Two Doctors made it necessary for everyone to forget this episode, but Six didn't remember having a Stattenheim remote control, and Jamie shouldn't know the term "Time Lord." Sadly, Deborah Watling sounds absolutely nothing like Victoria anymore, but that was easier to ignore as the story went on. It was cool having another incarnation of the Monk. I hope we hear more from him, even if the Doctor shouldn't remember this incarnation. I'm also glad that we finally got to see a male Time Lord regenerate into a female Time Lord. Hopefully this will end the speculation that Missy couldn't have just been a normal regeneration.
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Post by randomjc on Nov 19, 2015 16:17:15 GMT
Well, so much for Season 6B. I'm glad BF decided to go in another direction to explain The Two Doctors. Its too bad that events in The Two Doctors made it necessary for everyone to forget this episode, but Six didn't remember having a Stattenheim remote control, and Jamie shouldn't know the term "Time Lord." Sadly, Deborah Watling sounds absolutely nothing like Victoria anymore, but that was easier to ignore as the story went on. It was cool having another incarnation of the Monk. I hope we hear more from him, even if the Doctor shouldn't remember this incarnation. I'm also glad that we finally got to see a male Time Lord regenerate into a female Time Lord. Hopefully this will end the speculation that Missy couldn't have just been a normal regeneration. Such optimism. Fans will still debate that. And Season 6b still has the Second Doctor in the Five Doctors.
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Post by Zagreus on Nov 19, 2015 16:25:14 GMT
Well, so much for Season 6B. I'm glad BF decided to go in another direction to explain The Two Doctors. Its too bad that events in The Two Doctors made it necessary for everyone to forget this episode, but Six didn't remember having a Stattenheim remote control, and Jamie shouldn't know the term "Time Lord." Sadly, Deborah Watling sounds absolutely nothing like Victoria anymore, but that was easier to ignore as the story went on. It was cool having another incarnation of the Monk. I hope we hear more from him, even if the Doctor shouldn't remember this incarnation. I'm also glad that we finally got to see a male Time Lord regenerate into a female Time Lord. Hopefully this will end the speculation that Missy couldn't have just been a normal regeneration. Such optimism. Fans will still debate that. And Season 6b still has the Second Doctor in the Five Doctors.
I just assume The Five Doctors takes place, for Two, during the Action in Exile period. Like, it's right there. Season 6B has existed since 1969!
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Post by jasonward on Nov 19, 2015 16:27:47 GMT
It wasn't required in The Third Doctor Adventures and with a recast Third Doc having Treolar narrate the tale was a redundant move - and BF haveacknowledged the reponse and said narration will be dropped going forward in that range. However, it's something thats built into The Early Adventures, The Lost Stories (when dealing with Docs 1-3) and, of course, the Companion Chronicles. If you can't handle narration at all - those will be tricky ranges to get into. It works with the Companion Chronicles because they are more like an audiobook anyway. But it just doesn't mesh with full cast audios in my opinion. One of the reasons I really love CC's is because they are often nothing like an audiobook at all.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 19, 2015 17:34:43 GMT
Well, so much for Season 6B. I'm glad BF decided to go in another direction to explain The Two Doctors. Its too bad that events in The Two Doctors made it necessary for everyone to forget this episode, but Six didn't remember having a Stattenheim remote control, and Jamie shouldn't know the term "Time Lord." Sadly, Deborah Watling sounds absolutely nothing like Victoria anymore, but that was easier to ignore as the story went on. It was cool having another incarnation of the Monk. I hope we hear more from him, even if the Doctor shouldn't remember this incarnation. I'm also glad that we finally got to see a male Time Lord regenerate into a female Time Lord. Hopefully this will end the speculation that Missy couldn't have just been a normal regeneration. Such optimism. Fans will still debate that. And Season 6b still has the Second Doctor in the Five Doctors.
The whole point of 6B is to explain the Two Doctors. The Five Doctors fits in much more easily without crazy fan theories than The Two Doctors did.
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Post by randomjc on Nov 19, 2015 18:14:34 GMT
Such optimism. Fans will still debate that. And Season 6b still has the Second Doctor in the Five Doctors.
The whole point of 6B is to explain the Two Doctors. The Five Doctors fits in much more easily without crazy fan theories than The Two Doctors did. I don't disagree, but I will look for theories to keep 6B.
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Post by ausir on Nov 19, 2015 18:28:07 GMT
You can keep 6B even without "The Two Doctors", with all the later stories made to explain it.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 19, 2015 18:34:00 GMT
But 6B only exists to explain The Two Doctors. Why would you keep 6B if The Two Doctors isn't part of it.
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Post by randomjc on Nov 19, 2015 18:52:35 GMT
Cause it's a cool idea. and it does explain a lone 2nd Doctor who knows that Jamie and Zoe had their memories of him wiped in the Five Doctors.
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Post by ausir on Nov 19, 2015 19:12:19 GMT
I was never a fan of the theory myself.
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Post by constonks on Nov 19, 2015 19:38:06 GMT
To me, 6B doesn't exist because of The Two Doctors but rather exists because of World Game, which explicitly leads into the same events as The Black Hole. It's not about like or dislike, but about the fact that I really don't want to think that the Doctor in print is different from the one on audio, on TV, etc.
Personally, I just see this as the Monk messing with time - he sends the Doctor to a Sontaran-laden intervention... that the Doctor was supposed to deal with in his future anyway! Twice! Good work, Monk.
Interestingly, the events of 6B are referenced in a Big Finish production - one of the prose Short Trips - "That Time I Destroyed the Universe Whilst Looking for a Dress", specifically - states the Doctor and Jamie are working for the Time Lords, which is definitely not what they're doing here.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 19, 2015 19:38:58 GMT
Cause it's a cool idea. and it does explain a lone 2nd Doctor who knows that Jamie and Zoe had their memories of him wiped in the Five Doctors. Its a terrible idea that completely ruins the perfect ending of The War Games.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 19, 2015 19:41:12 GMT
To me, 6B doesn't exist because of The Two Doctors but rather exists because of World Game, which explicitly leads into the same events as The Black Hole. It's not about like or dislike, but about the fact that I really don't want to think that the Doctor in print is different from the one on audio, on TV, etc. Personally, I just see this as the Monk messing with time - he sends the Doctor to a Sontaran-laden intervention... that the Doctor was supposed to deal with in his future anyway! Twice! Good work, Monk. But 6B is only in World Game because it was invented to explain The Two Doctors.
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Post by constonks on Nov 19, 2015 19:44:32 GMT
Yes, I get that. I'm just saying I personally wouldn't consider 6B canon just based on the existence of The Two Doctors, but rather the fact that it is a published in-universe event that happened in World Game.
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