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Post by OneTen on Oct 30, 2018 16:29:14 GMT
Im not talking about here as everyone id say on here is respectful and reasonable but its sad to see here and there people saying why arent they doing an all men boxset and how they prefer the story being put forward first. Bound to happen. One small but enjoyable aspect of International Women's Day is watching Richard Herring on Twitter patiently and methodically replying to all the idiots asking "When is International Men's Day?"
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Post by agentten on Oct 30, 2018 17:00:32 GMT
Well, this has a grand collection of many of my favorite Who universe characters and the stories sound really neat, so it's an easy pre-order for me.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 30, 2018 17:30:00 GMT
Well, this is all rather exciting.
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Post by bobod on Oct 30, 2018 17:54:57 GMT
It’s international women’s day. Men then get the other 364 is that right?😜 Indeed. And specifically November 19th.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 18:28:39 GMT
Men then get the other 364 is that right?😜 Indeed. And specifically November 19th. What’s the 19th...all the women at my work are unaware of International Woman’s day so I was glad to enlighten them I may even bring cake for them and chocolates and if I don’t i won’t get out alive they said
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 18:34:28 GMT
(Please read carefully before starting up the outrage bus )
As cwm commented above, this looks to be a significant set for the first appearance of the Paternosters (I hope: no Strax and it doesn't count, human scum ) and the first use of the Capaldi era with Osgood*2 (and I am definitely an Osgood fan - someone who gives her laptops names is a proper geek!)
But overall it seems to me like an artificial release in a way that the magnificent 'ATA Girl' (released very near if not actually on IWD 2018) was a wholly natural release which grew from its own story and is in my top BF highlights list and a strong contender for 'best BF of 2018'. (I know, all releases are artificial, but some are created more artificial than others.)
BF celebrate and create fabulous female characters all the time (wonderful Evelyn, brilliant Benny, Constance, Flip, DI Menzies, Charley, etc.) and if BF want to (as they should) have more female writers/directors, well there are four stories available in most box sets and a MR release every month... (more from Una McCormack would be a great start imo - 'Red Planets' was head and shoulders above the others in the current Seven trilogy and probably the best Seven story for years.) And now that J&L sadly can be no more and Dorian has moved on, every BF spin-off or original series except 'The War Master' is female-led and what fabulous series most of them are. And Missy is coming soon!
I know BF are a commercial enterprise and no doubt this set (3/4 New Who and look at the cover - Ace and Leela are practically shrunk to microdots) is presumably hoping to attract people who have discovered TV DW because of Jodie's Doctor, but I would have preferred an original drama series or a special single-character-led set rather than a pick-'n-mix of characters who (apart from the Paternosters) already have their own strong series for which I'm pre-ordered to the point of insolvency. (And if anyone thinks I'm a bit miffed we didn't get 'ATA Girl II' for which I was not-so-secretly hoping despite what we'd been told, well, you're right! What happened to Daphne and Susan? We have a right to know!)
(Do I expect to be pre-ordering? Sigh, yes of course.)
I agree with you in general. And you are right, it is artificial- although you could say that for many of the recent box sets and pre-orders. However, I am confident that we get some cracking new stories.
I also did not pre-order this because it is female themed, but because I love the characters and would like to hear more stories with them (completely independent from them being female).
I have not listened to ATA girl (yet) but I agree with you that Red Planets was great!
I always love the women characters in Bf I guess it would be up to the women on the forum to say wether they have been unjustly portrayed or not. As for preordering I have a new rule in force...but I will be getting this one. I have now added Vienna to my list of favourites and am about to try out Graceless too.
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Post by bobod on Oct 30, 2018 18:42:05 GMT
Indeed. And specifically November 19th. What’s the 19th...all the women at my work are unaware of International Woman’s day so I was glad to enlighten them I may even bring cake for them and chocolates and if I don’t i won’t get out alive they said International Men's Day.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 18:44:42 GMT
What’s the 19th...all the women at my work are unaware of International Woman’s day so I was glad to enlighten them I may even bring cake for them and chocolates and if I don’t i won’t get out alive they said International Men's Day. Wonder what the girls at work will give me...apart. From grief😂
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Post by fitzoliverj on Oct 30, 2018 19:59:10 GMT
(Ought this box set really star the most formidable and awesome characters? I'm pretty sure that Polly or Victoria fighting off Cybermen and weed creatures work as better role models than, say, Leela, who kills a hundred monsters before breakfast).
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Post by Digi on Oct 30, 2018 20:05:03 GMT
November? Men get March 14th! *flees the thread before the forum’s female members can lynch him*
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Post by newt5996 on Oct 30, 2018 20:37:29 GMT
November? Men get March 14th! *flees the thread before the forum’s female members can lynch him* Friends, Whovians, Countreymen lend me your ear as it were
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Oct 30, 2018 20:59:30 GMT
All of the pairings hold interest but Leela & River rises to the top of the stack for me. The one that I'm most curious about is The Paternoster Gang one. I never had the affection for the trio that some did and felt that in the TV series a little went a very long way. I want to see if Big Finish is able to work their magic once again. Also, is Emma Haigh Jason's daughter?
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Post by mbaird07 on Oct 31, 2018 1:44:06 GMT
Don't get me wrong, I'm super excited for this set, but am I the only one that's kind of miffed on the choice of name? I feel like something like "The Women of Doctor Who" or something to that effect would be better (I'm sure they could come with much better ideas than me). Seems similar to The Further Adventures of Lucie Miller, another name I don't love.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 6:18:28 GMT
As long as we do not go down the route of Only Women Characters can be written by women writers and only directed by women directors..and do not think the way the world is headed it couldn’t happen.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 6:19:03 GMT
Is there a box set for the November the 19th?
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Post by pawntake on Oct 31, 2018 8:16:19 GMT
No strax!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 8:21:17 GMT
No strax!!!!!! Yes an him genetically engineered to breast feed too 😂
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Post by Whovitt on Oct 31, 2018 8:22:42 GMT
No strax!!!!!! There's always the possibility they didn't want to detract from the initial announcement of the all-female line-up by including a "the entire Paternoster Gang is in it" sort of thing. If you look back through the thread, mark687 linked to something that probably gives a good indication as to whether or not Strax is involved in this release (for people who don't wish to know, they can avoid his Spoiler post, but for those who do want to know conclusive proof of his inclusion/exclusion it is almost certainly contained in that Spoiler ).
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Post by pawntake on Oct 31, 2018 8:38:41 GMT
No strax!!!!!! There's always the possibility they didn't want to detract from the initial announcement of the all-female line-up by including a "the entire Paternoster Gang is in it" sort of thing. If you look back through the thread, mark687 linked to something that probably gives a good indication as to whether or not Strax is involved in this release (for people who don't wish to know, they can avoid his Spoiler post, but for those who do want to know conclusive proof of his inclusion/exclusion it is almost certainly contained in that Spoiler ). But!Sometime in the future!Will we actually get a "Paternoster gang" Boxset? Bobod tells us that only 2 out of the 3 can ever appear together and he is a man in the know! I guess time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 8:44:52 GMT
There's always the possibility they didn't want to detract from the initial announcement of the all-female line-up by including a "the entire Paternoster Gang is in it" sort of thing. If you look back through the thread, mark687 linked to something that probably gives a good indication as to whether or not Strax is involved in this release (for people who don't wish to know, they can avoid his Spoiler post, but for those who do want to know conclusive proof of his inclusion/exclusion it is almost certainly contained in that Spoiler ). But!Sometime in the future!Will we actually get a "Paternoster gang" Boxset? Bobod tells us that only 2 out of the 3 can ever appear together and he is a man in the know! I guess time will tell. Personally don’t like the gang....Victorian London .Why didn’t they set it in Georgian Times or Elizabethan times,stepping all over my Jago and Litefoots sacred doorstep...then perhaps I may have enjoyed....nah probably not didn’t like the characters ,the actors are great just....hate their roles
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