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Post by barnabaslives on Dec 4, 2020 14:26:05 GMT
I feel really down I know I shouldn’t because a lot of people have it worse off than me, but I just feel like everything I try creatively never goes anywhere. I'm sorry to hear it. I know the feeling. Don't feel bad about feeling down, I think all of us have it pretty rough right about now. (Big hugs). About all I can really think to say is to celebrate your creativity, enjoy expressing it, and let it express itself however is natural for it. Some people's creativity may "never go anywhere" because it's too busy going everywhere to go somewhere. I could look at all your posts and say "Well, no wonder, you're so busy coming up with still more creative ideas" - but look what you just did, you gave a creative idea to another creative person and produced something extraordinary. I think some people are creative "idea people" and they do their part of the process and sometimes it's others who aren't following through. I've had that happen all my life as someone who comes up with ideas for music - coming up with the first part of something is the hardest and most important part of the creative process, without that there'd be nothing, just an empty world full of writer's block, but people try to tell me I'm dreaming if I don't come up with the second part, the third part, make an album where I play all the parts - and sing! - and then promote the record and myself and go on tour, probably as a one-man band, lol. Being as in real life, there are writing partners, record producers, agents, I think it's kind of crass for someone to tell me I'm supposed to wear so many hats that I'm buried under the things. Why is it my fault if I couldn't navigate my way through the sharks out there to find sincere and honest creative partners, and why just because I have a talent am I supposed to make a career out of it? I have lots of talents, lol. What's wrong with someone creating something just because they enjoy creating and never mind all the hoopla? My late father-in-law got too old for all the hoopla but he still painted right up to the very end at the ripe old age of 105 just because he enjoyed painting. I've also heard it said about creatives that we can have such vivid imaginations that in our minds, we did finish something so we're on to the next thing already. Speaking for myself at least that may be at least partly true. For what it's worth, I think your creativity has been going somewhere, you've shared so many amazing, wonderful ideas with us, and it's so wonderful to see both such creativity, and such enthusiasm - and THANK YOU!
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Post by timegirl on Dec 4, 2020 14:38:09 GMT
I feel really down I know I shouldn’t because a lot of people have it worse off than me, but I just feel like everything I try creatively never goes anywhere. I'm sorry to hear it. I know the feeling. Don't feel bad about feeling down, I think all of us have it pretty rough right about now. (Big hugs). About all I can really think to say is to celebrate your creativity, enjoy expressing it, and let it express itself however is natural for it. Some people's creativity may "never go anywhere" because it's too busy going everywhere to go somewhere. I could look at all your posts and say "Well, no wonder, you're so busy coming up with still more creative ideas" - but look what you just did, you gave a creative idea to another creative person and produced something extraordinary. I think some people are creative "idea people" and they do their part of the process and sometimes it's others who aren't following through. I've had that happen all my life as someone who comes up with ideas for music - coming up with the first part of something is the hardest and most important part of the creative process, without that there'd be nothing, just an empty world full of writer's block, but people try to tell me I'm dreaming if I don't come up with the second part, the third part, make an album where I play all the parts - and sing! - and then promote the record and myself and go on tour, probably as a one-man band, lol. Being as in real life, there are writing partners, record producers, agents, I think it's kind of crass for someone to tell me I'm supposed to wear so many hats that I'm buried under the things. Why is it my fault if I couldn't navigate my way through the sharks out there to find sincere and honest creative partners, and why just because I have a talent am I supposed to make a career out of it? I have lots of talents, lol. What's wrong with someone creating something just because they enjoy creating and never mind all the hoopla? My late father-in-law got too old for all the hoopla but he still painted right up to the very end at the ripe old age of 105 just because he enjoyed painting. I've also heard it said about creatives that we can have such vivid imaginations that in our minds, we did finish something so we're on to the next thing already. Speaking for myself at least that may be at least partly true. For what it's worth, I think your creativity has been going somewhere, you've shared so many amazing, wonderful ideas with us, and it's so wonderful to see both such creativity, and such enthusiasm - and THANK YOU! Thank you that was lovely 😢😊
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Post by The Brigadier on Dec 4, 2020 15:27:10 GMT
I feel really down I know I shouldn’t because a lot of people have it worse off than me, but I just feel like everything I try creatively never goes anywhere. My mother's cousin had two great loves in her life : acting (her somewhat tenuous claim to fame was that she was one of the background dancers in one of the musical numbers in the film Oliver!) and teaching English to foreign students. While the former eventually came to a natural end as she grew older, the latter she persevered with until she gained what she considered her dream job and stayed in for many years - teaching English to students in Japan. As she was teaching her students they were teaching her the Japanese language and proverbs, one of which she shared with me when I was struggling with College studies. I've long since lost her letter and I sadly cannot remember the proverb in the original Japanese, but the English translation still rattles around in my head. Fall down seven times, stand up eight.Obviously I don't know about your other creative outlets, but you've proved on multiple occasions on certain threads on the Forum that you have an imagination to come up with story ideas (we'll gloss over your frankly unhealthy obsession with rainbow spandex..🤢🤪). Look at the artwork you've been sharing from Johanna - she couldn't have come up with that if you hadn't come up with the theme..and don't forget you and I have messaged regularly in the past about one particular storyline that you've worked on from scratch. Your enthusiasm for that was infectious. So persevere with it. There are going to be days when what you try creatively feels like it is never going anywhere. You just need to think to yourself on those days " ok..this isn't working today...I'll try again tomorrow." and just like my mother's cousin you will eventually get there. One day you will stand up for the eighth time. 😊
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Post by timegirl on Dec 4, 2020 15:30:10 GMT
I feel really down I know I shouldn’t because a lot of people have it worse off than me, but I just feel like everything I try creatively never goes anywhere. My mother's cousin had two great loves in her life : acting (her somewhat tenuous claim to fame was that she was one of the background dancers in one of the musical numbers in the film Oliver!) and teaching English to foreign students. While the former eventually came to a natural end as she grew older, the latter she persevered with until she gained what she considered her dream job and stayed in for many years - teaching English to students in Japan. As she was teaching her students they were teaching her the Japanese language and proverbs, one of which she shared with me when I was struggling with College studies. I've long since lost her letter and I sadly cannot remember the proverb in the original Japanese, but the English translation still rattles around in my head. Fall down seven times, stand up eight.Obviously I don't know about your other creative outlets, but you've proved on multiple occasions on certain threads on the Forum that you have an imagination to come up with story ideas (we'll gloss over your frankly unhealthy obsession with rainbow spandex..🤢🤪). Look at the artwork you've been sharing from Johanna - she couldn't have come up with that if you hadn't come up with the theme..and don't forget you and I have messaged regularly in the past about one particular storyline that you've worked on from scratch. Your enthusiasm for that was infectious. So persevere with it. There are going to be days when what you try creatively feels like it is never going anywhere. You just need to think to yourself on those days " ok..this isn't working today...I'll try again tomorrow." and just like my mother's cousin you will eventually get there. One day you will stand up for the eighth time. 😊 Aww thanks 😢😊
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 14:29:42 GMT
Made my day: Barclay, fresh back from the groomers after having his £55.00 trim, hot tub dip and blueberry face pack treatment
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Post by doctorkernow on Dec 5, 2020 14:52:43 GMT
I feel really down I know I shouldn’t because a lot of people have it worse off than me, but I just feel like everything I try creatively never goes anywhere. Hello again.
Sorry to hear your feeling down Timegirl. Creativity does go in phases, I had a down phase in the summer when I was trying to write two stories for the latest Divergent Wordsmith anthology. Due to family illness, I just couldn't write anything, let alone finish them. The ideas will sit there for a rainy day. Things did pick up in November, when I finally after three years on and off writing, finished the children's fantasy novel I've been working on.
I find a good walk helps, and having a notebook nearby, particularly when cooking. It's hard but sometimes you have to sit it out. I have bipolar and in the down times I can't do much at all. Walking, listening to really silly Big Finish stories like The One Doctor, Bang-bang-a-boom and The Kingmaker help. Nothing too heavy. Everyone has their own things that help them. There's always forumites on here to chat to and your family and friends. All the very best Timegirl, take care and hope you're feeling better soon.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 15:00:12 GMT
I feel really down I know I shouldn’t because a lot of people have it worse off than me, but I just feel like everything I try creatively never goes anywhere. A bit late replying to this, but that is very sad to hear. I have recently written a book, and, while I'm never usually happy with anything I do, I am really proud with this collection of stories. Looking to get it published, however, is soul-destroying. No-one gives a darn - or if they do, they are being very long-winded and silent about it! But, and this goes back to what has been said upthread, if you are creative because you enjoy it, then that is very satisfying on its own. You can sit back and look at the results of your art and think, 'I've done that. No-one else. Just me.' And that is a great feeling - rejoice in that. Being creative in itself is a great gift.
Here ends today's sermon!
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Post by timegirl on Dec 5, 2020 15:12:41 GMT
I feel really down I know I shouldn’t because a lot of people have it worse off than me, but I just feel like everything I try creatively never goes anywhere. Hello again.
Sorry to hear your feeling down Timegirl. Creativity does go in phases, I had a down phase in the summer when I was trying to write two stories for the latest Divergent Wordsmith anthology. Due to family illness, I just couldn't write anything, let alone finish them. The ideas will sit there for a rainy day. Things did pick up in November, when I finally after three years on and off writing, finished the children's fantasy novel I've been working on.
I find a good walk helps, and having a notebook nearby, particularly when cooking. It's hard but sometimes you have to sit it out. I have bipolar and in the down times I can't do much at all. Walking, listening to really silly Big Finish stories like The One Doctor, Bang-bang-a-boom and The Kingmaker help. Nothing too heavy. Everyone has their own things that help them. There's always forumites on here to chat to and your family and friends. All the very best Timegirl, take care and hope your feeling better soon.
Thanks 😊 congratulations on finishing your children’s fantasy novel as well! We all have our struggles with creativity, I am glad yours had a happy ending! I going to try to get myself write more of something I am working on as well today. It’s for a competition and I trying to extend it to a certain length. I guess what got me down to is I hung up on a another project I feel really passionate about that I have been thinking about and writing for a while and it’s very frustrating feeling like I can’t get anywhere with it. It’s out of my control and I have no idea if something will happen with it. But in the meantime this other smaller thing I am writing feels like it could have promise soon. It’s a bit of an odd one though but hopefully someone will like it!🤞
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Post by timegirl on Dec 5, 2020 15:14:11 GMT
I feel really down I know I shouldn’t because a lot of people have it worse off than me, but I just feel like everything I try creatively never goes anywhere. A bit late replying to this, but that is very sad to hear. I have recently written a book, and, while I'm never usually happy with anything I do, I am really proud with this collection of stories. Looking to get it published, however, is soul-destroying. No-one gives a darn - or if they do, they are being very long-winded and silent about it! But, and this goes back to what has been said upthread, if you are creative because you enjoy it, then that is very satisfying on its own. You can sit back and look at the results of your art and think, 'I've done that. No-one else. Just me.' And that is a great feeling - rejoice in that. Being creative in itself is a great gift.
Here ends today's sermon! Thanks!😊 And I hope your book works out for you soon!🤞
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 15:46:19 GMT
Made my day: Barclay, fresh back from the groomers after having his £55.00 trim, hot tub dip and blueberry face pack treatment And here’s me with my tenner crop
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 15:49:42 GMT
A bit late replying to this, but that is very sad to hear. I have recently written a book, and, while I'm never usually happy with anything I do, I am really proud with this collection of stories. Looking to get it published, however, is soul-destroying. No-one gives a darn - or if they do, they are being very long-winded and silent about it! But, and this goes back to what has been said upthread, if you are creative because you enjoy it, then that is very satisfying on its own. You can sit back and look at the results of your art and think, 'I've done that. No-one else. Just me.' And that is a great feeling - rejoice in that. Being creative in itself is a great gift.
Here ends today's sermon! Thanks!😊 And I hope your book works out for you soon!🤞 Thank you - I'll let you know!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 16:02:49 GMT
I feel really down I know I shouldn’t because a lot of people have it worse off than me, but I just feel like everything I try creatively never goes anywhere. A bit late replying to this, but that is very sad to hear. I have recently written a book, and, while I'm never usually happy with anything I do, I am really proud with this collection of stories. Looking to get it published, however, is soul-destroying. No-one gives a darn - or if they do, they are being very long-winded and silent about it! But, and this goes back to what has been said upthread, if you are creative because you enjoy it, then that is very satisfying on its own. You can sit back and look at the results of your art and think, 'I've done that. No-one else. Just me.' And that is a great feeling - rejoice in that. Being creative in itself is a great gift.
Here ends today's sermon! The benefit, as you say is the difference between Intrinsic and Extrinsic gains. It reminded me, that 10 years ago this month, I had my Graduation Ceremony for my Masters Degree, of which those two terms were explored within my Dissertation, as motivating factors for students seeking a qualification. My Headteacher (a not particularly nice Boss) later claimed that I had not made enough of it in terms of self promotion, but I got a strong Intrinsic benefit from it, as a more knowledgeable and confident practitioner. Plus having done it 100% in my own time and without funding by the school, I saw no reason to take on additional tasks on the cheap (volunteering to do staff development sessions), beyond influencing things within my own subject and department. Its what you get out it, not what it proves to others, that counts more. Just good qualifications can get you a better job (Extrinsic), what you learn and develop as a person is an Intrinsic benefit. So writing fiction or producing Art should always satisfy oneself first and foremost. Apologies for the usual self referencing tangent..
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Post by timegirl on Dec 5, 2020 16:11:09 GMT
A bit late replying to this, but that is very sad to hear. I have recently written a book, and, while I'm never usually happy with anything I do, I am really proud with this collection of stories. Looking to get it published, however, is soul-destroying. No-one gives a darn - or if they do, they are being very long-winded and silent about it! But, and this goes back to what has been said upthread, if you are creative because you enjoy it, then that is very satisfying on its own. You can sit back and look at the results of your art and think, 'I've done that. No-one else. Just me.' And that is a great feeling - rejoice in that. Being creative in itself is a great gift.
Here ends today's sermon! The benefit, as you say is the difference between Intrinsic and Extrinsic gains. It reminded me, that 10 years ago this month, I had my Graduation Ceremony for my Masters Degree, of which those two terms were explored within my Dissertation, as motivating factors for students seeking a qualification. My Headteacher (a not particularly nice Boss) later claimed that I had not made enough of it in terms of self promotion, but I got a strong Intrinsic benefit from it, as a more knowledgeable and confident practitioner. Plus having done it 100% in my own time and without funding by the school, I saw no reason to take on additional tasks on the cheap (volunteering to do staff development sessions), beyond influencing things within my own subject and department. Its what you get out it, not what it proves to others, that counts more. Just good qualifications can get you a better job (Extrinsic), what you learn and develop as a person is an Intrinsic benefit. So writing fiction or producing Art should always satisfy oneself first and foremost. Apologies for the usual self referencing tangent.. I definitely agree with this and it does satisfy me a lot, I guess too I have a massive almost overwhelming desire for others to see the things I write and create and for them to be fully realized.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 16:30:54 GMT
Made my day: Barclay, fresh back from the groomers after having his £55.00 trim, hot tub dip and blueberry face pack treatment And here’s me with my tenner crop Ah but tenna or not it suits you. Anyway I took Barclay from a flee invested, crap ridden home when he was just 8 weeks old, sleeping on a hard floor in a small room with just a single sheet of newspaper for a bed, I give him the best life I can, and the vile piece of garbage I took him from is apparently now sleeping in his own nightmare cell.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 16:33:00 GMT
And here’s me with my tenner crop Ah but tenna or not it suits you. Anyway I took Barclay from a flee invested, crap ridden home when he was just 8 weeks old, sleeping on a hard floor in a small room with just a single sheet of newspaper for a bed, I give him the best life I can, and the vile piece of garbage I took him from is apparently now sleeping in his own nightmare cell. Yes well some folks are shits ....good to hear...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 16:33:57 GMT
And here’s me with my tenner crop Ah but tenna or not it suits you. Anyway I took Barclay from a flee invested, crap ridden home when he was just 8 weeks old, sleeping on a hard floor in a small room with just a single sheet of newspaper for a bed, I give him the best life I can, and the vile piece of garbage I took him from is apparently now sleeping in his own nightmare cell. But...that doesn’t excuse the Artex ceiling....perhaps Barclay wants to come love at mine 😂😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 16:40:26 GMT
Ah but tenna or not it suits you. Anyway I took Barclay from a flee invested, crap ridden home when he was just 8 weeks old, sleeping on a hard floor in a small room with just a single sheet of newspaper for a bed, I give him the best life I can, and the vile piece of garbage I took him from is apparently now sleeping in his own nightmare cell. But...that doesn’t excuse the Artex ceiling....perhaps Barclay wants to come love at mine 😂😂😂😂 All the rooms have that ceiling bar the kitchen, which is flat, and after the friggin mess of having that one smoothed over the rest can stay as they are. Anyway who looks up at the ceiling?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 16:44:08 GMT
But...that doesn’t excuse the Artex ceiling....perhaps Barclay wants to come love at mine 😂😂😂😂 All the rooms have that ceiling bar the kitchen, which is flat, and after the friggin mess of having that one smoothed over the rest can stay as they are. Anyway who looks up at the ceiling? Yes my parents had it once on a wall strange wavy pattern luckily in spite of it they managed to sell
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 16:45:52 GMT
There isn’t an answer to the question
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