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Post by timegirl on Mar 8, 2021 15:24:04 GMT
Mad moment Sorry I will say that while I enjoyed the Article it is skewed towards "More should be done" rather then "What's been archived" without Vertity Lambert a woman the show would have become a success. Regards mark687 What more can be done? You already got a female doctor and female master What Else is there? Female showrunner!
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Mar 8, 2021 15:27:28 GMT
What more can be done? You already got a female doctor and female master What Else is there? Female showrunner! Yes!
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Post by timegirl on Mar 8, 2021 15:40:10 GMT
I think Emily Cook would be a good first candidate!😊
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Post by mark687 on Mar 8, 2021 15:57:22 GMT
Sarah Dollard Sally Wainwright? Regards mark687
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Post by timegirl on Mar 8, 2021 16:00:47 GMT
Sarah Dollard Sally Wainwright? Regards mark687 Also brilliant choices!😊
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Mar 8, 2021 18:55:25 GMT
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Mar 8, 2021 19:24:59 GMT
This link has already been added to this thread.
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Post by number13 on Mar 8, 2021 20:11:07 GMT
Second line down in fact, from original producer Verity Lambert all the way through to Whittaker herself, the women of Who have always been a significant presence There nice and concise Regards mark687 The whole article is interesting but by all means just pick out one line for some reason mark687. I'd say there was a good reason. I know the article is aimed at the general public for IWD and they want to make a postive point about the show as it is right now, fair enough.
But this is a fan forum and as serious fans we know there have always been major female contributors to 'Doctor Who' historically, behind as well as in front of the camera, not only now. It didn't take a female Doctor (or Master) to make that true and I for one get impatient with the 'year zero' attitude among some fans that seems to think it did. What Verity Lambert did back in the world of the early 60s was far more remarkable in TV terms than having a female Doctor today.
In fact, it still would be (leaving aside the 'continuity' arguments of a few years back about 'can there be a female Doctor') - across stage/film/TV there have been many great actresses (if I can still say that, but I am talking about history at this point) but relatively very few famous female producers, or directors.
EDIT: As posts above comment, when's the next female producer/'showrunner' for 'Doctor Who'? It's been a very long time hasn't it?
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Post by melkur on Mar 8, 2021 23:20:28 GMT
'The feel when you say to yourself that you could see an actress in something that you're watching as Catwoman in a Batman-related TV show and find out that she actually played Batgirl/Oracle in the short-lived 'Birds Of Prey' show from 2002... Huh.
Sometimes it's the little coincidences...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2021 23:24:33 GMT
The whole article is interesting but by all means just pick out one line for some reason mark687. I'd say there was a good reason. I know the article is aimed at the general public for IWD and they want to make a postive point about the show as it is right now, fair enough.
But this is a fan forum and as serious fans we know there have always been major female contributors to 'Doctor Who' historically, behind as well as in front of the camera, not only now. It didn't take a female Doctor (or Master) to make that true and I for one get impatient with the 'year zero' attitude among some fans that seems to think it did. What Verity Lambert did back in the world of the early 60s was far more remarkable in TV terms than having a female Doctor today.
In fact, it still would be (leaving aside the 'continuity' arguments of a few years back about 'can there be a female Doctor') - across stage/film/TV there have been many great actresses (if I can still say that, but I am talking about history at this point) but relatively very few famous female producers, or directors.
EDIT: As posts above comment, when's the next female producer/'showrunner' for 'Doctor Who'? It's been a very long time hasn't it?
To put it into further context, Verity Lambert was not only the youngest female drama producer, she was also the only female drama producer at the BBC in 1963. She set the precedent.
Without her fighting tooth and nail to get the first of these productions about radioactive monsters off the ground -- against the protests of Sidney Newman and the BBC Head of Serials -- we would not have had the Daleks. Her instinct, that persistence, vindicated her time as producer. The Daleks were everywhere after that point. You could buy them on porcelain plates or coffee mugs. They became such a hit that she was essentially left to her own devices after that point from both quarters. Doctor Who was her production, she knew how to run it.
After she left Who, she ended up Controller of Drama at Thames Television, Chief Executive of Euston Films, Director of Production for Thorn EMI and, eventually, she established her own production company, Cinema Verity. Even a cancer scare didn't deter her from working. She was one of the bidders for the rights of the show in the 1990s. If fate had taken a different tack, we could have ended up with a revival spearheaded by the woman who first championed it. Funny thing, time.
But yes, the idea of the Doctor being this grown-up child, a trait that is in all the Doctors to one extent or another -- that was all Verity. What she managed to accomplish in her era (hell, her lifetime) is nothing short of remarkable.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Mar 9, 2021 4:45:43 GMT
Filling out school registration documents tonight with wife for our boy. He starts school next year as of Term 1. He has 10 months now to learn as much as he can at kindergarden before he becomes a small fish in a big pond . The school is 3 streets away too, a big factor in us buying this house 2 years ago when we upgraded from cramped tiny townhouse.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Mar 9, 2021 4:52:48 GMT
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Post by theillusiveman on Mar 9, 2021 5:31:23 GMT
Filling out school registration documents tonight with wife for our boy. He starts school next year as of Term 1. He has 10 months now to learn as much as he can at kindergarden before he becomes a small fish in a big pond . The school is 3 streets away too, a big factor in us buying this house 2 years ago when we upgraded from cramped tiny townhouse. Congrats
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Post by number13 on Mar 9, 2021 10:47:06 GMT
I'd say there was a good reason. I know the article is aimed at the general public for IWD and they want to make a postive point about the show as it is right now, fair enough.
But this is a fan forum and as serious fans we know there have always been major female contributors to 'Doctor Who' historically, behind as well as in front of the camera, not only now. It didn't take a female Doctor (or Master) to make that true and I for one get impatient with the 'year zero' attitude among some fans that seems to think it did. What Verity Lambert did back in the world of the early 60s was far more remarkable in TV terms than having a female Doctor today.
In fact, it still would be (leaving aside the 'continuity' arguments of a few years back about 'can there be a female Doctor') - across stage/film/TV there have been many great actresses (if I can still say that, but I am talking about history at this point) but relatively very few famous female producers, or directors.
EDIT: As posts above comment, when's the next female producer/'showrunner' for 'Doctor Who'? It's been a very long time hasn't it?
To put it into further context, Verity Lambert was not only the youngest female drama producer, she was also the only female drama producer at the BBC in 1963. She set the precedent.
Without her fighting tooth and nail to get the first of these productions about radioactive monsters off the ground -- against the protests of Sidney Newman and the BBC Head of Serials -- we would not have had the Daleks. Her instinct, that persistence, vindicated her time as producer. The Daleks were everywhere after that point. You could buy them on porcelain plates or coffee mugs. They became such a hit that she was essentially left to her own devices after that point from both quarters. Doctor Who was her production, she knew how to run it.
After she left Who, she ended up Controller of Drama at Thames Television, Chief Executive of Euston Films, Director of Production for Thorn EMI and, eventually, she established her own production company, Cinema Verity. Even a cancer scare didn't deter her from working. She was one of the bidders for the rights of the show in the 1990s. If fate had taken a different tack, we could have ended up with a revival spearheaded by the woman who first championed it. Funny thing, time.
But yes, the idea of the Doctor being this grown-up child, a trait that is in all the Doctors to one extent or another -- that was all Verity. What she managed to accomplish in her era (hell, her lifetime) is nothing short of remarkable.
And let's not forget, between 'Doctor Who' and Thames, she also produced another BBC 60s classic (well I think it is anyway!) which is a favourite of mine: Adam Adamant Lives! And in doing so I'm convinced she can take a lot of the credit for creating my beloved Third Doctor and Jo Grant.
Adam and Georgina share a lot of creative DNA with the Pertwee Doctor and Jo - cape swirling 'dandy' out-of-time man of action and trendy young woman eager to be involved in sorting out whatever nasties are giving them trouble this week. There's even one AAL plot about taking over the world with noxious artificial flowers... Jo was a much more capable character than Georgina was often written as, but then, Jo was UNIT trained.
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Post by number13 on Mar 9, 2021 10:56:49 GMT
This made my day - sometimes we don't have to go into space, space comes to us:
Extra-interesting because it's a very rare type, and with the UK still practicing 'stay at home' it came down most helpfully right over one of the few towns in a rural (and beautiful) area. Landing on someone's driveway - a very cooperative 'lockdown meteorite' in fact! (EDIT Whovian thought: Almost as if it wanted to be found... beeep... beeep... beeep... )
If you missed the 'sightings' story of the meteor burnup and the very precise piece of scientific detective work which indicated where 'X' would mark the spot, it's here. They were absolutely spot-on. And it wouldn't have been possible without using a large pool of observations from the general public.
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Post by mark687 on Mar 9, 2021 11:23:04 GMT
This made my day - sometimes we don't have to go into space, space comes to us:
Extra-interesting because it's a very rare type, and it came down most helpfully right over one of the few towns in a very rural (and beautiful) area. On someone's driveway - a most cooperative 'lockdown meteorite' in fact. (Almost as if it wanted to be found... beeep... beeep... beeep... )
If you missed the 'sightings' story of the meteor burnup and the very precise piece of scientific detective work which indicated where 'X' would mark the spot, it's here. They were absolutely spot-on.
Just Don't leave them near the Bunsen Burners Regards mark687
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Post by number13 on Mar 9, 2021 11:45:28 GMT
This made my day - sometimes we don't have to go into space, space comes to us:
Extra-interesting because it's a very rare type, and it came down most helpfully right over one of the few towns in a very rural (and beautiful) area. On someone's driveway - a most cooperative 'lockdown meteorite' in fact. (Almost as if it wanted to be found... beeep... beeep... beeep... )
If you missed the 'sightings' story of the meteor burnup and the very precise piece of scientific detective work which indicated where 'X' would mark the spot, it's here. They were absolutely spot-on.
Just Don't leave them near the Bunsen Burners Regards mark687 This type of meteorite apparently contains amino acids and other organic compounds (really) so yes it might be as well to take precautions and start a search of the plastics factories...
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Mar 9, 2021 11:48:46 GMT
Tonight was Daddy/Junior night for 3 hours so we curled up in the hammock outside listening to the 1st 20 mins of 4th Doctor "Phantoms Of The Deep"- that took us to about 7pm, then we spent another 35 mins walking/running around the backyard like the Doctor with our scarves on blowing in "the breeze" going on lil adventures, helping people etc.. I got Junior to fall asleep tonight in under 15 minutes. BOOM..
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Mar 9, 2021 18:34:28 GMT
Off to GB News he goes!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2021 18:54:53 GMT
Best thing to hear on my break at work! Glad to see the back of him i can actually watch morning television again lol.
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