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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2021 12:03:12 GMT
88 Films delaying Chinese Boxer till 8th November , they never stick to a release schedule like Eureka.
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Post by mark687 on Oct 15, 2021 13:18:22 GMT
While trying to Register for an Online service Computer "Can't complete process online please go into Store" Store "Can't complete in Store Store computers don't talk to the online service" Regards mark687
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2021 13:23:27 GMT
88 Films delaying Chinese Boxer till 8th November , they never stick to a release schedule like Eureka. Oh could be a LOT worse. Arrow were bought out by The Hut Group, who own Zavvi a few months ago. Their website was "upgraded" 3 weeks ago to look like Zavvi's. Only problem....they've lost every pre-order migrating over. So people haven't had releases they've ordered, Arrow keep saying "it'll be sorted in 7 days", and they can't even refund orders as they don't have a record of who did order what. It's blowing up already online but the "normal" people who don't talk about things onine, they just order and wait, they're not even aware. Gonna be a LOT of people putting in Paypal claims or indemnity claims with their banks and after that, they'll never order direct again. The irony is Hut Group bought Arrow because they were doing so well. Took them 2 months to ruin it.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Oct 15, 2021 16:43:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2021 17:07:36 GMT
A truly tragic day. Part of what makes this country what it is, is that you CAN walk in and see your elected officials. They're not just elected then do what they want till the next election. They face their own voters all the time. And to have this happen twice in 5 years? Man.. I hope, and I don't want this to be crass it was a lone wolf with no agenda or ties. We don't need any more "Us Vs Them" rhetoric to infest this country.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 4:15:59 GMT
Hello all,
I thought I'd post this here as it will get the most exposure and give people the time they need to drop a line with details if they wish.
I've been reviewing my experiences on the forum over the past year, in a broad sense, and I've come to the conclusion that it's time for me to move on. I've very much enjoyed my time here with a great many of you -- and I do mean a great many. It's been a glorious meld of faces, backgrounds, cultures and experiences. I'm happy to consider many of you friends, even colleagues. It's been a terrific place to share a mutual love or something that continues to bring such light into my life. Wonderful frontiers to explore in ways I never could have imagined. I've come to the conclusion, however, that circumstances here, intermittant or not, are now damaging to my mental health, energy and general welfare.
I've weighed up the necessaries and I've decided I can no longer stay. As such, I'll be deleting my account. However, as this is methodical, I want to give people the opportunity again (as some of you have done in the past) to pass on contact details. I'd like to keep in touch in another medium for those interested. The account will be here for a week. I'll be doing a bit of tidying, custodial duties and archiving. After that point, the account is shut down permanently.
Now, I don't want a fuss about how I'll be missed. I know. I know, and I'll miss people, too. However, this is my decision. I'm comfortable making it, and if you've enjoyed what I write, there's every likelihood you'll be able to find me elsewhere. Watch the usual spaces. Importantly, I don't want this to be an invitation for people to turn on one another. Exercise your better natures. The community has survived because of the positivity and support it's shown to its members. You want to do right by me, continue that tradition. Not just for the short while I've left, but after I'm gone.
Thank you to those who have made Divergent Universe as welcoming as it could be over the five years. I've learnt much, I've enjoyed much. But, this is marks the transition of me out of the forum. And you know what? I can say, as a person, as a fan of Doctor Who and everything else, I am happy. The biggest show of defiance to misery there is. Whatever else, my life is constructive, healthy and happy. This is just the next step.
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Post by theillusiveman on Oct 16, 2021 4:24:38 GMT
Hello all, I thought I'd post this here as it will get the most exposure and give people the time they need to drop a line with details if they wish. I've been reviewing my experiences on the forum over the past year, in a broad sense, and I've come to the conclusion that it's time for me to move on. I've very much enjoyed my time here with a great many of you -- and I do mean a great many. It's been a glorious meld of faces, backgrounds, cultures and experiences. I'm happy to consider many of you friends, even colleagues. It's been a terrific place to share a mutual love or something that continues to bring such light into my life. Wonderful frontiers to explore in ways I never could have imagined. I've come to the conclusion, however, that circumstances here, intermittant or not, are now damaging to my mental health, energy and general welfare. I've weighed up the necessaries and I've decided I can no longer stay. As such, I'll be deleting my account. However, as this is methodical, I want to give people the opportunity again (as some of you have done in the past) to pass on contact details. I'd like to keep in touch in another medium for those interested. The account will be here for a week. I'll be doing a bit of tidying, custodial duties and archiving. After that point, the account is shut down permanently. Now, I don't want a fuss about how I'll be missed. I know. I know, and I'll miss people, too. However, this is my decision. I'm comfortable making it, and if you've enjoyed what I write, there's every likelihood you'll be able to find me elsewhere. Watch the usual spaces. Importantly, I don't want this to be an invitation for people to turn on one another. Exercise your better natures. The community has survived because of the positivity and support it's shown to its members. You want to do right by me, continue that tradition. Not just for the short while I've left, but after I'm gone. Thank you to those who have made Divergent Universe as welcoming as it could be over the five years. I've learnt much, I've enjoyed much. But, this is marks the transition of me out of the forum. And you know what? I can say, as a person, as a fan of Doctor Who and everything else, I am happy. The biggest show of defiance to misery there is. Whatever else, my life is constructive, healthy and happy. This is just the next step. It’s a shame that you are going man Wishing you all the best for your future endeavours
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 7:08:11 GMT
88 Films delaying Chinese Boxer till 8th November , they never stick to a release schedule like Eureka. Oh could be a LOT worse. Arrow were bought out by The Hut Group, who own Zavvi a few months ago. Their website was "upgraded" 3 weeks ago to look like Zavvi's. Only problem....they've lost every pre-order migrating over. So people haven't had releases they've ordered, Arrow keep saying "it'll be sorted in 7 days", and they can't even refund orders as they don't have a record of who did order what. It's blowing up already online but the "normal" people who don't talk about things onine, they just order and wait, they're not even aware. Gonna be a LOT of people putting in Paypal claims or indemnity claims with their banks and after that, they'll never order direct again. The irony is Hut Group bought Arrow because they were doing so well. Took them 2 months to ruin it. Oh dear, i didn't know that, I'll never order from Zavvi after previous experience of ordering items i didn't receive & when i emailed & complained i was informed the items had been sent, thankfully as i paid via paypal it got sorted & i was eventually refunded. I won't be ordering anymore blu rays directly from Arrow then, thanks for the heads up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 7:12:35 GMT
Hello all, I thought I'd post this here as it will get the most exposure and give people the time they need to drop a line with details if they wish. I've been reviewing my experiences on the forum over the past year, in a broad sense, and I've come to the conclusion that it's time for me to move on. I've very much enjoyed my time here with a great many of you -- and I do mean a great many. It's been a glorious meld of faces, backgrounds, cultures and experiences. I'm happy to consider many of you friends, even colleagues. It's been a terrific place to share a mutual love or something that continues to bring such light into my life. Wonderful frontiers to explore in ways I never could have imagined. I've come to the conclusion, however, that circumstances here, intermittant or not, are now damaging to my mental health, energy and general welfare. I've weighed up the necessaries and I've decided I can no longer stay. As such, I'll be deleting my account. However, as this is methodical, I want to give people the opportunity again (as some of you have done in the past) to pass on contact details. I'd like to keep in touch in another medium for those interested. The account will be here for a week. I'll be doing a bit of tidying, custodial duties and archiving. After that point, the account is shut down permanently. Now, I don't want a fuss about how I'll be missed. I know. I know, and I'll miss people, too. However, this is my decision. I'm comfortable making it, and if you've enjoyed what I write, there's every likelihood you'll be able to find me elsewhere. Watch the usual spaces. Importantly, I don't want this to be an invitation for people to turn on one another. Exercise your better natures. The community has survived because of the positivity and support it's shown to its members. You want to do right by me, continue that tradition. Not just for the short while I've left, but after I'm gone. Thank you to those who have made Divergent Universe as welcoming as it could be over the five years. I've learnt much, I've enjoyed much. But, this is marks the transition of me out of the forum. And you know what? I can say, as a person, as a fan of Doctor Who and everything else, I am happy. The biggest show of defiance to misery there is. Whatever else, my life is constructive, healthy and happy. This is just the next step. I'm gutted absolutely gutted, another good man leaving us, 2021 sucks, you have been a HUGE support to me during the worst year of my life I'm rrally upset it's come down to you feel you must leave this forum. Please don't delete your account just leave it idol you don't have to log on but who knows how you'll feel a few months from now.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Oct 16, 2021 7:33:26 GMT
A truly tragic day. Part of what makes this country what it is, is that you CAN walk in and see your elected officials. They're not just elected then do what they want till the next election. They face their own voters all the time. And to have this happen twice in 5 years? Man.. I hope, and I don't want this to be crass it was a lone wolf with no agenda or ties. We don't need any more "Us Vs Them" rhetoric to infest this country. This is all over the news here in Australia, and I have chatted to my UK mates who live here- they are all equally running the gamut of emotions on this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 7:59:42 GMT
Hello all, I thought I'd post this here as it will get the most exposure and give people the time they need to drop a line with details if they wish. I've been reviewing my experiences on the forum over the past year, in a broad sense, and I've come to the conclusion that it's time for me to move on. I've very much enjoyed my time here with a great many of you -- and I do mean a great many. It's been a glorious meld of faces, backgrounds, cultures and experiences. I'm happy to consider many of you friends, even colleagues. It's been a terrific place to share a mutual love or something that continues to bring such light into my life. Wonderful frontiers to explore in ways I never could have imagined. I've come to the conclusion, however, that circumstances here, intermittant or not, are now damaging to my mental health, energy and general welfare. I've weighed up the necessaries and I've decided I can no longer stay. As such, I'll be deleting my account. However, as this is methodical, I want to give people the opportunity again (as some of you have done in the past) to pass on contact details. I'd like to keep in touch in another medium for those interested. The account will be here for a week. I'll be doing a bit of tidying, custodial duties and archiving. After that point, the account is shut down permanently. Now, I don't want a fuss about how I'll be missed. I know. I know, and I'll miss people, too. However, this is my decision. I'm comfortable making it, and if you've enjoyed what I write, there's every likelihood you'll be able to find me elsewhere. Watch the usual spaces. Importantly, I don't want this to be an invitation for people to turn on one another. Exercise your better natures. The community has survived because of the positivity and support it's shown to its members. You want to do right by me, continue that tradition. Not just for the short while I've left, but after I'm gone. Thank you to those who have made Divergent Universe as welcoming as it could be over the five years. I've learnt much, I've enjoyed much. But, this is marks the transition of me out of the forum. And you know what? I can say, as a person, as a fan of Doctor Who and everything else, I am happy. The biggest show of defiance to misery there is. Whatever else, my life is constructive, healthy and happy. This is just the next step. I'm gutted absolutely gutted, another good man leaving us, 2021 sucks, you have been a HUGE support to me during the worst year of my life I'm rrally upset it's come down to you feel you must leave this forum. Please don't delete your account just leave it idol you don't have to log on but who knows how you'll feel a few months from now. Oh, don't think of it as an end, think of it like a... a transition. Moving from one phase into another. Send me a message and I'll tell you where you can find me if you need to ever chat, Timelord. If nothing else, I'll be there for the Bradley's Basement stuff that I'm invited to. That's something. Ohhh... I wish I could, but it's a necessary part of the process for me. It's time to move on. But, like I said, you'll still be able to see me elsewhere from time to time. Remember this for me: As dark as this year seemed, as grim as it was, as gruelling as it could be, you still had the capacity to recognise that you were supported. I and others were able to do that because that same impulse exists within yourself. I never regret being able to take the time to say something that might help and try to understand. Never. Take that thought, hold it tight, and give yourself that same time and same kindness. However dark it gets, somewhere there is always something bright and worthwhile.
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Post by Chakoteya on Oct 16, 2021 11:34:07 GMT
Really, really hacked off with the latest Mozilla Thunderbird update and its KNOWN ISSUE!!!!
I realise I'm probably the only person on the planet who picks up their emails, deals with them, then closes the client down several times a day but even so... why did they release something that is known to lose all your calendar entries? And requires you to not have closed your client down in the meantime so you can copy the hidden roaming file to run through an editor to restore them. Really, people, think of how your old granny would cope when you do this sort of thing. After a decade or more of my custom and donations, I'm reconsidering my allegiance.
It's back to the good old Fil-O-Fax for me. No need to worry about backing up paper and pen entries.
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 16, 2021 15:34:46 GMT
Hello all, I thought I'd post this here as it will get the most exposure and give people the time they need to drop a line with details if they wish. I've been reviewing my experiences on the forum over the past year, in a broad sense, and I've come to the conclusion that it's time for me to move on. I've very much enjoyed my time here with a great many of you -- and I do mean a great many. It's been a glorious meld of faces, backgrounds, cultures and experiences. I'm happy to consider many of you friends, even colleagues. It's been a terrific place to share a mutual love or something that continues to bring such light into my life. Wonderful frontiers to explore in ways I never could have imagined. I've come to the conclusion, however, that circumstances here, intermittant or not, are now damaging to my mental health, energy and general welfare. I've weighed up the necessaries and I've decided I can no longer stay. As such, I'll be deleting my account. However, as this is methodical, I want to give people the opportunity again (as some of you have done in the past) to pass on contact details. I'd like to keep in touch in another medium for those interested. The account will be here for a week. I'll be doing a bit of tidying, custodial duties and archiving. After that point, the account is shut down permanently. Now, I don't want a fuss about how I'll be missed. I know. I know, and I'll miss people, too. However, this is my decision. I'm comfortable making it, and if you've enjoyed what I write, there's every likelihood you'll be able to find me elsewhere. Watch the usual spaces. Importantly, I don't want this to be an invitation for people to turn on one another. Exercise your better natures. The community has survived because of the positivity and support it's shown to its members. You want to do right by me, continue that tradition. Not just for the short while I've left, but after I'm gone. Thank you to those who have made Divergent Universe as welcoming as it could be over the five years. I've learnt much, I've enjoyed much. But, this is marks the transition of me out of the forum. And you know what? I can say, as a person, as a fan of Doctor Who and everything else, I am happy. The biggest show of defiance to misery there is. Whatever else, my life is constructive, healthy and happy. This is just the next step. What a shame. And this only because of some drama that could have been avoided. Hey, there is positive people on here, too.
You will be sorely missed.
Sadly, I am not a writer (at least not a writer who shares their work or even writes in English).
Any way of staying in contact?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2021 19:30:04 GMT
Hello all, I thought I'd post this here as it will get the most exposure and give people the time they need to drop a line with details if they wish. I've been reviewing my experiences on the forum over the past year, in a broad sense, and I've come to the conclusion that it's time for me to move on. I've very much enjoyed my time here with a great many of you -- and I do mean a great many. It's been a glorious meld of faces, backgrounds, cultures and experiences. I'm happy to consider many of you friends, even colleagues. It's been a terrific place to share a mutual love or something that continues to bring such light into my life. Wonderful frontiers to explore in ways I never could have imagined. I've come to the conclusion, however, that circumstances here, intermittant or not, are now damaging to my mental health, energy and general welfare. I've weighed up the necessaries and I've decided I can no longer stay. As such, I'll be deleting my account. However, as this is methodical, I want to give people the opportunity again (as some of you have done in the past) to pass on contact details. I'd like to keep in touch in another medium for those interested. The account will be here for a week. I'll be doing a bit of tidying, custodial duties and archiving. After that point, the account is shut down permanently. Now, I don't want a fuss about how I'll be missed. I know. I know, and I'll miss people, too. However, this is my decision. I'm comfortable making it, and if you've enjoyed what I write, there's every likelihood you'll be able to find me elsewhere. Watch the usual spaces. Importantly, I don't want this to be an invitation for people to turn on one another. Exercise your better natures. The community has survived because of the positivity and support it's shown to its members. You want to do right by me, continue that tradition. Not just for the short while I've left, but after I'm gone. Thank you to those who have made Divergent Universe as welcoming as it could be over the five years. I've learnt much, I've enjoyed much. But, this is marks the transition of me out of the forum. And you know what? I can say, as a person, as a fan of Doctor Who and everything else, I am happy. The biggest show of defiance to misery there is. Whatever else, my life is constructive, healthy and happy. This is just the next step. What a shame. And this only because of some drama that could have been avoided. Hey, there is positive people on here, too.
You will be sorely missed.
Sadly, I am not a writer (at least not a writer who shares their work or even writes in English).
Any way of staying in contact? Yeah... There's nothing I can really add to that at this point. There are too many red flags for me now. I have to go. But, I don't have to go in a huff -- I can do this methodically, and then, done is done. I don't want to go into detail, I'd prefer to keep what little time is left positive. That's my hope, really. I'll be gone, but hopefully, the positivity I've seen over the years will continue with -- you guys. I've sent along a private message with details for contact.
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Post by sherlock on Oct 16, 2021 20:21:09 GMT
Hello all, I thought I'd post this here as it will get the most exposure and give people the time they need to drop a line with details if they wish. I've been reviewing my experiences on the forum over the past year, in a broad sense, and I've come to the conclusion that it's time for me to move on. I've very much enjoyed my time here with a great many of you -- and I do mean a great many. It's been a glorious meld of faces, backgrounds, cultures and experiences. I'm happy to consider many of you friends, even colleagues. It's been a terrific place to share a mutual love or something that continues to bring such light into my life. Wonderful frontiers to explore in ways I never could have imagined. I've come to the conclusion, however, that circumstances here, intermittant or not, are now damaging to my mental health, energy and general welfare. I've weighed up the necessaries and I've decided I can no longer stay. As such, I'll be deleting my account. However, as this is methodical, I want to give people the opportunity again (as some of you have done in the past) to pass on contact details. I'd like to keep in touch in another medium for those interested. The account will be here for a week. I'll be doing a bit of tidying, custodial duties and archiving. After that point, the account is shut down permanently. Now, I don't want a fuss about how I'll be missed. I know. I know, and I'll miss people, too. However, this is my decision. I'm comfortable making it, and if you've enjoyed what I write, there's every likelihood you'll be able to find me elsewhere. Watch the usual spaces. Importantly, I don't want this to be an invitation for people to turn on one another. Exercise your better natures. The community has survived because of the positivity and support it's shown to its members. You want to do right by me, continue that tradition. Not just for the short while I've left, but after I'm gone. Thank you to those who have made Divergent Universe as welcoming as it could be over the five years. I've learnt much, I've enjoyed much. But, this is marks the transition of me out of the forum. And you know what? I can say, as a person, as a fan of Doctor Who and everything else, I am happy. The biggest show of defiance to misery there is. Whatever else, my life is constructive, healthy and happy. This is just the next step. Sorry to hear your decision. You already have the email I use for all DU related stuff, and I do check it more often these days, so feel free to reach out to me via that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 3:26:17 GMT
Hello all, I thought I'd post this here as it will get the most exposure and give people the time they need to drop a line with details if they wish. I've been reviewing my experiences on the forum over the past year, in a broad sense, and I've come to the conclusion that it's time for me to move on. I've very much enjoyed my time here with a great many of you -- and I do mean a great many. It's been a glorious meld of faces, backgrounds, cultures and experiences. I'm happy to consider many of you friends, even colleagues. It's been a terrific place to share a mutual love or something that continues to bring such light into my life. Wonderful frontiers to explore in ways I never could have imagined. I've come to the conclusion, however, that circumstances here, intermittant or not, are now damaging to my mental health, energy and general welfare. I've weighed up the necessaries and I've decided I can no longer stay. As such, I'll be deleting my account. However, as this is methodical, I want to give people the opportunity again (as some of you have done in the past) to pass on contact details. I'd like to keep in touch in another medium for those interested. The account will be here for a week. I'll be doing a bit of tidying, custodial duties and archiving. After that point, the account is shut down permanently. Now, I don't want a fuss about how I'll be missed. I know. I know, and I'll miss people, too. However, this is my decision. I'm comfortable making it, and if you've enjoyed what I write, there's every likelihood you'll be able to find me elsewhere. Watch the usual spaces. Importantly, I don't want this to be an invitation for people to turn on one another. Exercise your better natures. The community has survived because of the positivity and support it's shown to its members. You want to do right by me, continue that tradition. Not just for the short while I've left, but after I'm gone. Thank you to those who have made Divergent Universe as welcoming as it could be over the five years. I've learnt much, I've enjoyed much. But, this is marks the transition of me out of the forum. And you know what? I can say, as a person, as a fan of Doctor Who and everything else, I am happy. The biggest show of defiance to misery there is. Whatever else, my life is constructive, healthy and happy. This is just the next step. Sorry to hear your decision. You already have the email I use for all DU related stuff, and I do check it more often these days, so feel free to reach out to me via that. Thanks, Sherlock. I'll have more to chat about for the Gallifrey Historia and related when the current workload frees up.
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Post by relativetime on Oct 17, 2021 15:13:27 GMT
Hello all, I thought I'd post this here as it will get the most exposure and give people the time they need to drop a line with details if they wish. I've been reviewing my experiences on the forum over the past year, in a broad sense, and I've come to the conclusion that it's time for me to move on. I've very much enjoyed my time here with a great many of you -- and I do mean a great many. It's been a glorious meld of faces, backgrounds, cultures and experiences. I'm happy to consider many of you friends, even colleagues. It's been a terrific place to share a mutual love or something that continues to bring such light into my life. Wonderful frontiers to explore in ways I never could have imagined. I've come to the conclusion, however, that circumstances here, intermittant or not, are now damaging to my mental health, energy and general welfare. I've weighed up the necessaries and I've decided I can no longer stay. As such, I'll be deleting my account. However, as this is methodical, I want to give people the opportunity again (as some of you have done in the past) to pass on contact details. I'd like to keep in touch in another medium for those interested. The account will be here for a week. I'll be doing a bit of tidying, custodial duties and archiving. After that point, the account is shut down permanently. Now, I don't want a fuss about how I'll be missed. I know. I know, and I'll miss people, too. However, this is my decision. I'm comfortable making it, and if you've enjoyed what I write, there's every likelihood you'll be able to find me elsewhere. Watch the usual spaces. Importantly, I don't want this to be an invitation for people to turn on one another. Exercise your better natures. The community has survived because of the positivity and support it's shown to its members. You want to do right by me, continue that tradition. Not just for the short while I've left, but after I'm gone. Thank you to those who have made Divergent Universe as welcoming as it could be over the five years. I've learnt much, I've enjoyed much. But, this is marks the transition of me out of the forum. And you know what? I can say, as a person, as a fan of Doctor Who and everything else, I am happy. The biggest show of defiance to misery there is. Whatever else, my life is constructive, healthy and happy. This is just the next step. I’m sorry to see you go Wolfe... I’m terrible at saying goodbyes and especially at letting people know how much I’ve appreciated their presence in my life (whether online or not), but you’ve always been one of the first people I think of when I think about this forum. It’ll be a sadder place for the lack of your presence and I hope someday it might be a happier place for you to return to. Thank you so much for always giving me things to think about and for all the joy I’ve gotten from reading your always creative posts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2021 16:33:27 GMT
I'l echo what everyone else has said Wolfie - YOU and your mental health come first. You feel like you need to leave, all I think a lot of us would love to see is that you do not delete your account. Because one day - and it might be a long while - you might want to pick the old place up again. You might have a browse and want to reach out to someone because of their posts and find you can't. For your work on the forum, I know from others you are someone who helps people on here in private too and don't ask for the praise or the attention. You do it because it's kind.
So wherever your journey takes you, they'll be lucky to have that kindness that we will miss. Haste ye back.
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Post by shutupbanks on Oct 17, 2021 22:55:11 GMT
I’ll echo the words of others by saying that Wolfie will be sorely missed and that I wish him all the very best in his endeavours both on and offline.
In regards to the forum and members leaving… I don’t have a magic solution or cure for the malaise but, as a person who’s been a member of many forums and pages over the years, this is what happens. We’ve had the DU for just over six years now, which is an eternity on the web. The average life of a website is a little over 2.6 years. A lot of us are old-school fans of media and the browser-based format suits us fine. Many newer (I almost said younger) fans prefer the portability that comes with apps and social media-based interactions and the old forum that we used to inhabit on the Big Finish site has largely been replaced for many fans by their Facebook, Twitter, instagram or whathaveyou where the interactions and comments are seen by thousands more than would be on older sites.
The dropping off of members here is just what happens naturally. We’re fans of shows that have lost audience members and have become what is quaintly being referred to as “archive media”. Forums are becoming a part of that. We’re not dinosaurs (go the ankylosaurus, btw) but we we are becoming outdated. I love the format and maintain a membership on several still but when I can access the same information from one social media account and keep in touch with a lot of the same people through the same, then it might start to feel like a chore to be part of a smaller group (it isn’t, I assure you).
We’re noticing it more because our forum has always been a small community. It’s been easy for a few people to dominate a conversation or influence views. When folks drop off the radar it’s more noticeable than in a larger forum because we know each other better. In a lot of ways, it’s great and it’s what I love about this place. But it can lead to factionalism, more visceral reactions to events and to dropoffs and walkouts by members when they don’t feel they have the support they’re used to.
I don’t think we’re losing members or finding things different because the mood of the forum has changed: the mood has changed because members are finding other places to go where they can get the same sort of thing in an environment that they’re becoming more comfortable with. Things that might have been ignored previously have become more noticeable because they’re what’s left over when a lot of the discourse has moved on.
I’m not going anywhere because I love this place and the people in it, but remember that we’re part of a older style of socialising here and don’t get too tetchy or focused on what’s passed.
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Post by tuigirl on Oct 18, 2021 7:41:05 GMT
I’ll echo the words of others by saying that Wolfie will be sorely missed and that I wish him all the very best in his endeavours both on and offline. In regards to the forum and members leaving… I don’t have a magic solution or cure for the malaise but, as a person who’s been a member of many forums and pages over the years, this is what happens. We’ve had the DU for just over six years now, which is an eternity on the web. The average life of a website is a little over 2.6 years. A lot of us are old-school fans of media and the browser-based format suits us fine. Many newer (I almost said younger) fans prefer the portability that comes with apps and social media-based interactions and the old forum that we used to inhabit on the Big Finish site has largely been replaced for many fans by their Facebook, Twitter, instagram or whathaveyou where the interactions and comments are seen by thousands more than would be on older sites. The dropping off of members here is just what happens naturally. We’re fans of shows that have lost audience members and have become what is quaintly being referred to as “archive media”. Forums are becoming a part of that. We’re not dinosaurs (go the ankylosaurus, btw) but we we are becoming outdated. I love the format and maintain a membership on several still but when I can access the same information from one social media account and keep in touch with a lot of the same people through the same, then it might start to feel like a chore to be part of a smaller group (it isn’t, I assure you). We’re noticing it more because our forum has always been a small community. It’s been easy for a few people to dominate a conversation or influence views. When folks drop off the radar it’s more noticeable than in a larger forum because we know each other better. In a lot of ways, it’s great and it’s what I love about this place. But it can lead to factionalism, more visceral reactions to events and to dropoffs and walkouts by members when they don’t feel they have the support they’re used to. I don’t think we’re losing members or finding things different because the mood of the forum has changed: the mood has changed because members are finding other places to go where they can get the same sort of thing in an environment that they’re becoming more comfortable with. Things that might have been ignored previously have become more noticeable because they’re what’s left over when a lot of the discourse has moved on. I’m not going anywhere because I love this place and the people in it, but remember that we’re part of a older style of socialising here and don’t get too tetchy or focused on what’s passed. You raise some good points. Over the past 20 years, I have been in a variety of online forums. Several of them went bust, and you are right, it is always the same story, and it looks very much like what happened here. Luckily, with several of my good forum friends from the deleted forums, I still have good contact on social media.
However, one of my most prolific forums went bust 10 years ago, and even back then, people thought forums were an outdated format. Now look at this place here! I actually LOVE this format and I don't think it is outdated. I am useless with typing on small screens, so I am not using Whatsapp or any mobile device social media. I HATE them. I just use Facebook and Messenger where I can type on my keyboard, and I have curated my Facebook in such a way that I have got rid of negative, toxic and people who pull me down, so it actually is a positive experience for me where I can meet friends.
Facebook is NOT replacing my forum time, however.
I think I am too much of an old fart to replace old fashioned formats with new fancy ones, unless the extinction wave forces me to do so. This will be a VERY sad day.
So I have to politely disagree- THIS is the way I am comfortable with, and I will come back to it.
I suffer from ADHD, so my interests wander around. I might be into Star Trek one months, and then switch over to Who or Marvel the next. This is why I am not always present at one place with my full attention. But looking back, I have always come back to my love and obsessions. I just rotate them around.
So I am not on here as much anymore not because I have moved on, or because I find the mood bad on here, but because right now, something else has caught my attention. But I still collect my BF backlog and will go through it in time. I just hope this place will still be around when I am back in the BF mood.
I know I should be around this forum more, and contribute more and get into discussions and be a more active member. But I have a demanding day job and yes, as I said above, I have other interests that take my time. And I have only that many hours in a day. I do not think I should feel guilty.
I still like this place to meet friends, and I love the forum format.
I love this place to come back to, to be part of the community and to chat with like minded people.
I would just be sad to lose it.
But you are right, about the points about domination of conversations and about factionalism. I think this is EXACTLY what is happening. And since people like me are not around as much anymore to join the choir of voices, a lot of notes drop out. Sigh.
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