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Post by xlozdob on Aug 7, 2019 22:51:30 GMT
3) If this was the case, as currently painted, the question then becomes: how does the timeline make sense? There's no way this was an overnight decision to quit, meaning the BBC would've had to know, or suspect, he was going or intending to depart. Why wouldn't the Beeb have prepared a proper, official statement, likely in co-ordination with Chris and possibly his agent? Depatures, just ike show commissions and renewals, like this are announced MONTHS after they are signed and sealed. Afaik, whatever happened, IF it happened, it did over the last week or couple of weeks. The main source for this appears to be an anonymous twitter account called Doctor Who’s Future. So I’d wait for something official. I mean if someone on production is going to leak the news of the showrunner’s sudden departure why on earth would they go to an anonymous twitter user instead a tabloid? It's not. The story (rumour) apparently broke on the Roobarbs forum. This account is only confirming (according to the information they've got). I'll put this up hear to further cast doubt about the legitimacy of this (in addition to his reviews, MRT also works as a runner and Third AD in TV, so this comes from someone also in the trenches): here* No-one is saying production has stopped. Why would it? As MRT says, they would proceed as usual. But if the showrunner, executive producer and head writer had left, even if most of his work had already be done, and what's left can be done by Strevens (and maybe McTighe, like it's been suggested, basically taking over any writing duties still left to do), it would certainly be chaos. It's very bad PR, for starters, they might be worrying about the press tour, about having to deal with a new addition to the team, and, most importantly, next series. It's the head of the production office, for Pete's sake. If it's true, these couple of weeks must have been hell for the crew to keep production running on schedule while all of this was happening in the background.
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Post by sherlock on Aug 7, 2019 22:51:55 GMT
The main source for this appears to be an anonymous twitter account called Doctor Who’s Future. So I’d wait for something official. I mean if someone on production is going to leak the news of the showrunner’s sudden departure why on earth would they go to an anonymous twitter user instead a tabloid? Apparently someone High Up went to the Tabloids but they're waiting for official statements.
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Odd behaviour for tabloids. Why wait when they could just publish it a rumour and hoover up clicks, which seems to be their usual MO.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 22:56:19 GMT
Alright, so key points to remember here: 1) This doesn't affect S12. The scripts, locations, cast, crew yadda yadda are already locked, and a good chunk already filmed. Irrespective of this, S12 is still getting finished and broadcast. Important not to mistake this for cancellation of either S12 or NuWho. 2) Drastic leaves like this, partway through production, are not standard practice. For Chris to abruptly leave would imply a fallout with the BBC. In which case, there's clearly a lot more going on than previously thought. Issues of creative control, scheduling problems, contract and financial disagreements, there's a lot that could've been at the root of 'this', IF there is a 'This'. 3) If this was the case, as currently painted, the question then becomes: how does the timeline make sense? There's no way this was an overnight decision to quit, meaning the BBC would've had to know, or suspect, he was going or intending to depart. Why wouldn't the Beeb have prepared a proper, official statement, likely in co-ordination with Chris and possibly his agent? Depatures, just ike show commissions and renewals, like this are announced MONTHS after they are signed and sealed.
4) This could, alternately, be a misunderstanding over Chris having to suddenly leave production for a while due to a private matter, like a family emergency, and he will be back once that's settled. Or it's just another elaborate hoax like the Jodie pregnancy claim.
I think you're rebutting arguments no-one is making! Of course S12 is still getting made, they've been filming it for months and months. No-one in their right mind would equate Chibnall leaving with cancellation. The rest? Well, I'm not going to waste too much time caring till if and when something is announced. If Chibnall leaves, having seen S11...I wouldn't be crying into my pillow, honestly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 23:01:00 GMT
Apparently someone High Up went to the Tabloids but they're waiting for official statements.
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Odd behaviour for tabloids. Why wait when they could just publish it a rumour and hoover up clicks, which seems to be their usual MO. I've tweeted Ed Sheeran, Stormzy and a bunch of other A-list musicians in case we need a Doctor In Distress for 2019 soon.
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Post by mark687 on Aug 7, 2019 23:04:53 GMT
Odd behaviour for tabloids. Why wait when they could just publish it a rumour and hoover up clicks, which seems to be their usual MO. I've tweeted Ed Sheeran, Stormzy and a bunch of other A-list musicians in case we need a Doctor In Distress for 2019 soon. Well it might work Don't forget to ask Lewis C! LOL
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Aug 7, 2019 23:32:16 GMT
Alright, so key points to remember here: 1) This doesn't affect S12. The scripts, locations, cast, crew yadda yadda are already locked, and a good chunk already filmed. Irrespective of this, S12 is still getting finished and broadcast. Important not to mistake this for cancellation of either S12 or NuWho. 2) Drastic leaves like this, partway through production, are not standard practice. For Chris to abruptly leave would imply a fallout with the BBC. In which case, there's clearly a lot more going on than previously thought. Issues of creative control, scheduling problems, contract and financial disagreements, there's a lot that could've been at the root of 'this', IF there is a 'This'. 3) If this was the case, as currently painted, the question then becomes: how does the timeline make sense? There's no way this was an overnight decision to quit, meaning the BBC would've had to know, or suspect, he was going or intending to depart. Why wouldn't the Beeb have prepared a proper, official statement, likely in co-ordination with Chris and possibly his agent? Depatures, just ike show commissions and renewals, like this are announced MONTHS after they are signed and sealed.
4) This could, alternately, be a misunderstanding over Chris having to suddenly leave production for a while due to a private matter, like a family emergency, and he will be back once that's settled. Or it's just another elaborate hoax like the Jodie pregnancy claim.
I think you're rebutting arguments no-one is making! Of course S12 is still getting made, they've been filming it for months and months. No-one in their right mind would equate Chibnall leaving with cancellation. The rest? Well, I'm not going to waste too much time caring till if and when something is announced. If Chibnall leaves, having seen S11...I wouldn't be crying into my pillow, honestly. I wasn't rebutting anyone, I was raising possible scenarios. (And as for equation: don't be shocked if the usual suspects on Youtube don't try just that. All about the sweet ad clicks man. But then, 'right mind' would probably be too generous there.)
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Post by relativetime on Aug 8, 2019 0:05:29 GMT
I can live with Chibnall leaving. I won’t be happy - I for one actually really liked the direction he took Series 11 - but I can live with that.
But I also heard rumors that Jodie might be leaving too because of that and that really breaks my heart. I sincerely hope that isn’t the case - I’m just not sure how I would handle that at the moment.
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Post by Digi on Aug 8, 2019 0:33:46 GMT
I don't buy it. It's not hard to make stuff up on Twitter and pretend you've got this inside track, all it takes is a few gullible people to spread it and it gets some traction--particularly if they themselves are bad actors whose only interest is in crapping on the show.
So far as I can tell, this account is some nobody who likes to post rumours as if they're facts, and had finally found one that's gained traction. Tiny traction at that--a whopping 28 retweets. I've received more interactions than that while livetweeting TV shows.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Aug 8, 2019 0:38:43 GMT
I would think if it is true or false we will hear something from either the BBC or CC, or both, shortly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 1:23:49 GMT
I don't buy it. It's not hard to make stuff up on Twitter and pretend you've got this inside track, all it takes is a few gullible people to spread it and it gets some traction--particularly if they themselves are bad actors whose only interest is in crapping on the show. So far as I can tell, this account is some nobody who likes to post rumours as if they're facts, and had finally found one that's gained traction. Tiny traction at that--a whopping 28 retweets. I've received more interactions than that while livetweeting TV shows. That'd be true if it wasn't for the fact, as xlozdob says, it broke on the members only section of the Roobarbs forum - where news on missing episodes, animated eps and the exact release order for the Classic Who bluray sets has all come from. Not some random on Twitter. They just reposted what they read there. Could all still be BS - easily - but it's not some Twitterati looking for some buzz.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Aug 8, 2019 2:20:28 GMT
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Post by Digi on Aug 8, 2019 2:34:28 GMT
That’s from November of last year...
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Aug 8, 2019 2:36:38 GMT
That’s from November of last year... Wiki for Chris Chibnall has been updated to show "he was fired August 2019". wow.. :-(
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Post by timegirl on Aug 8, 2019 2:41:17 GMT
I honestly don’t think this is true I mean people thought before Chibnall was going to leave and that was not true, to me it sounds like another false rumor. It just wouldn’t make sense, they were just filming yesterday 🤔
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Aug 8, 2019 6:45:30 GMT
That’s from November of last year... Wiki for Chris Chibnall has been updated to show "he was fired August 2019". wow.. :-( Anyone can edit Wikipedia, I’d check the edit log to see who made changes on that page.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 7:11:18 GMT
Wiki for Chris Chibnall has been updated to show "he was fired August 2019". wow.. :-( Anyone can edit Wikipedia, I’d check the edit log to see who made changes on that page. Exactly. It's wiki!!!
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Post by tuigirl on Aug 8, 2019 7:16:07 GMT
Oh wow. First reaction- speechless upon reading this. Second reaction- going on wikipedia- the comment that Chibbs was fired has since then been removed. My thoughts- I also find it hard to believe that Chibbs would just have left. And so far, these appear to be only rumors. I also was not very convinced by series 11 to be honest, and would have liked Chibnall to cut back on his writing episodes... but I am all for second chances. Since it was already very hard to get a new showrunner after Moffat had left, IF Chibbs had quit, I wonder what this would mean for the future of the show. Especially if it is true and Jodie has quit, too. No, I was not a fan of the new direction, but I also would not want the ship to sink, either. Oh well, maybe this is the chance we finally get the much wished for TV special featuring Paul McGann as Doctor. We can but dream.
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Post by stcoop on Aug 8, 2019 8:07:50 GMT
So to be clear the sources of this revelation are a Forum populated largely by people who think that Doctor Who died circa-1977 and Wikipedia which can be edited by anyone?*
And for a production in "chaos" they were shooting in public this week without any problems.
*I just did it myself to prove the point. Let's see how long it lasts...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2019 8:24:26 GMT
Oh wow. First reaction- speechless upon reading this. Second reaction- going on wikipedia- the comment that Chibbs was fired has since then been removed. My thoughts- I also find it hard to believe that Chibbs would just have left. And so far, these appear to be only rumors. I also was not very convinced by series 11 to be honest, and would have liked Chibnall to cut back on his writing episodes... but I am all for second chances. Since it was already very hard to get a new showrunner after Moffat had left, IF Chibbs had quit, I wonder what this would mean for the future of the show. Especially if it is true and Jodie has quit, too. No, I was not a fan of the new direction, but I also would not want the ship to sink, either.Oh well, maybe this is the chance we finally get the much wished for TV special featuring Paul McGann as Doctor. We can but dream. The show has just had it's best ratings year since David Tennant left, with Jodie's first ep getting higher ratings than any non-special/Christmas ep since the show came back in 2005. It's absolutely fine. Moffat did indeed struggle to find someone to recommend should take over when he left but that was looking at quite fannish choices and in a period where ratings were (unfairly, I think) tumbing. If the BBC look beyond fans of the show, there won't be any issue getting someone in if required - it's still one of, if not the biggest, showrunning gig in the country. What other show can guarantee your profile makes you almost a household name, and breaks you into American TV in one go? I'd kinda like the experiment of having a non-fan, or at least a non-diehard, run it. None of the classic series producers could really be called "fans", they were BBC staff who, if they weren't doing Who, would have been on something else. And the most popular Star Trek ever, Wrath Of Khan, was by Nick Meyer who again wasn't a fan and came in with what he called a "healthy disregard" for the show. Maybe it's time for something like that for Who. Yet all 3 of the New Who showrunners have been uber-fans. Honestly though, I rather wouldn't lose Jodie for at least this season then one more - she's had little to work with to show any range whatsoever. If someone were to takeover for S13, assuming S12 would be a patch-job, I'd like to see her with someone else writing. It's been a long, long time since we've had a Doctor stay on past the showrunner.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Aug 8, 2019 8:55:40 GMT
Wiki is not to be trusted. at all. ever.
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