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Post by mark687 on Dec 9, 2018 0:23:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 19:01:07 GMT
this got quite poor reviews but really i have heard worse I managed to scoop a copy on CD it had a troubled production according to the BF Companion but as with the first stories in the range BF are finding their feet
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Post by newt5996 on Dec 9, 2018 19:09:41 GMT
What's a ramge?
In all seriousness this is one that I find to have some nice ideas about it, but suffers from some pretty bad sound design in one of the few early Big Finish missteps
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Dec 9, 2018 19:41:50 GMT
And Sarah Sutton had clearly not found her footing as Nyssa at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 19:49:23 GMT
What's a ramge? In all seriousness this is one that I find to have some nice ideas about it, but suffers from some pretty bad sound design in one of the few early Big Finish missteps I suppose we have to be forgiving of the earlier releases flaws.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 20:07:15 GMT
I find it so odd to think that when Peter was doing this...he'd only been gone for a couple of years more than Eccleston has now. Makes me think "new WHo" is not the best moniker any more
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 20:12:08 GMT
Well I couldn’t write a script in a year or a decade and Stephen Cole did one in a week good lad
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 20:17:43 GMT
The Cd has the nifty little floor plan of Bretts Monument ground floor on the back of the back sleeve.It would be hard to get lost.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2018 22:31:59 GMT
I liked this, in retrospect it is a bit basic compared to more recent BF productions but The Land of the Dead has a certain charm about it. It always brings back good memories when I listen to this story. But yeah, there are better Fifth Doctor and Nyssa stories out there.
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Post by mark687 on Dec 9, 2018 22:38:46 GMT
Hearing the Production story makes this go up a bit in my opinion its still an average story but in light of the turnaround time put very together well.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Dec 9, 2018 23:03:54 GMT
Hearing the Production story makes this go up a bit in my opinion its still an average story but in light of the turnaround time put very together well. Regards mark687 I do quite like the retrospective aspect of these. I don’t know that we need the 15 minute excerpts but the stories about the actual productions are great.
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Post by Tim Bradley on Dec 10, 2018 0:22:58 GMT
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Dec 10, 2018 13:38:37 GMT
The Cd has the nifty little floor plan of Bretts Monument ground floor on the back of the back sleeve.It would be hard to get lost. I thought that was a nice touch as well
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Dec 10, 2018 13:39:25 GMT
It has a great story behind it, but yeah its the early sound design as they are finding their feet
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 18:36:06 GMT
I am redoing it again and the monster could be a bit louder but otherwise Peter and Sarah are pretty much on form as stories go its pretty much an interesting plot.
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Post by slithe on Dec 10, 2018 20:18:03 GMT
I quite liked the first episode of this one. I thought the setting in the Alaskan wilderness was quite atmospheric and it could have led to a pretty good story. Sadly, the remainder of the tale isn't as good - doesn't help that the monster is 'described' quite a lot (falling into one of the pitfalls of audio) with some of the action scenes also being 'spoken' if memory serves right as well.
I do grant this some slack though. It was very early in the BF releases and most of us (certainly me at least) were willing to overlook the odd dud if it meant getting 'Doctor Who' back again. The entire range was a bit hit and miss for the first few releases. Don't think it truly found form until the Marian Conspiracy and even after this, there were still some releases that met with a lot of criticism: Red Dawn I recall being 'Red Yawn', the Genocide Machine being slated as dull and the Apocalypse Element as 'loud and over the top' (even though it pretty much forms the entire backstory to Davies' reboot of the series: a war with the Daleks/Time Lords!)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 20:49:06 GMT
I quite liked the first episode of this one. I thought the setting in the Alaskan wilderness was quite atmospheric and it could have led to a pretty good story. Sadly, the remainder of the tale isn't as good - doesn't help that the monster is 'described' quite a lot (falling into one of the pitfalls of audio) with some of the action scenes also being 'spoken' if memory serves right as well. I do grant this some slack though. It was very early in the BF releases and most of us (certainly me at least) were willing to overlook the odd dud if it meant getting 'Doctor Who' back again. The entire range was a bit hit and miss for the first few releases. Don't think it truly found form until the Marian Conspiracy and even after this, there were still some releases that met with a lot of criticism: Red Dawn I recall being 'Red Yawn', the Genocide Machine being slated as dull and the Apocalypse Element as 'loud and over the top' (even though it pretty much forms the entire backstory to Davies' reboot of the series: a war with the Daleks/Time Lords!) I probably am one of a few who likes Red Dawn and relistened recently and I still enjoy it
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Post by number13 on Dec 28, 2018 23:32:15 GMT
I enjoyed this a lot more than I was expecting (from the general fan view about it.) Especially considering it was written in a WEEK, which I found amazing!
Yes, there's rather a lot of talking in some places and I got a bit lost in the scientific mysticism / Native American beliefs, but the setting of that weird house which turns out to be an elaborate memorial is strange and atmospheric, as are the cold Alaskan exteriors. And the Permians (once the Doctor explained them) were a good idea I thought, and just a little bit Fendahl-ish - a being which evolved to feed on the life-energy of all other life to such an extent it caused a mass extinction.
The Doctor seemed very 'young' and very "English gentleman" in this one imo and I liked that Nyssa's Traken bioscience came in useful. The only thing I really disliked was the cover and as I'm sure everyone knows, there are some great other versions online.
It's all a long time ago now, but for me it clearly proves that even as far back as 2000, there was already early life at BF ready to evolve and grow astonishingly!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 9:25:40 GMT
I remember hoping the character of Monica would become a regular companion. She has more 'bite' than Nyssa, and gives the Doctor a run for his money as well (the 'making the tea' scene is great fun, for example). Early days yes - at the time, I don't think anyone knew how long these audios would continue - but Peter Davison is already the Big Finish version of the Fifth Doctor in that he is witty, gently sarcastic and funny. Thus his relationship with Nyssa is a lot more fun than it had previously been. Equally, the sound design may not be as polished as it has since become, but the Alaskan wastes are well executed. And there are some terrific cliff-hangers here. I still listen to this story on occasions and always enjoy it.
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Post by Timelord007 on Dec 29, 2018 13:23:44 GMT
I enjoyed it, few flaws here & there as Big Finish finding there footing but overall a charming eerie story nevertheless.
3/5.
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