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Post by number13 on Jan 13, 2019 10:36:21 GMT
The Genocide Machine by Mike Tucker
The library on Kar-Charrat is one of the wonders of the Universe. It is also hidden from all but a few select species. The Doctor and Ace discover that the librarians have found a new way of storing data - a wetworks facility - but the machine has attracted unwanted attention, and the Doctor soon finds himself pitted against his oldest and deadliest enemies - the Daleks!
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Post by number13 on Jan 13, 2019 10:36:39 GMT
There seems only moderate love around for 'The Genocide Machine' - but that's what I call a Dalek story and I enjoyed it no end! They're ruthless, brutal and exterminating and they have a cunning plan which very nearly works, foiled only by the Unknown Factor (don't drink the water on Kar-Charrat if you're a vegetarian!), by the Doctor again and by a Dalek finding its better side long before 'Rusty' ever thought of it. Daleks on a jungle planet, "invisible" friendly sentient residents, a high-tech facility containing a Big Secret waiting to be revealed and a tiny, doomed expedition of visitors poking their collective nose into deadly danger... for cleverly-nodded nostalgia value this TV-authentic story scored highly for me and that's before the twist - who would have guessed that the 'genocide' of the title was not being perpetrated by the Daleks but by seemingly kindly, dithery academic buffer Elgin? I certainly didn't rumble his evil scheme and I thought he got off lightly at the end - the Kar-Charratians were clearly a civilised and forgiving people. He may not have known they were intelligent but he did know his amazing data store was being built out of living creatures with memories he could wipe - the Daleks would have been proud of such an horrible idea! Sylvester McCoy and Sophie Aldred sounded right back in their TV-era form and well characterised in the writing - I chuckled when the Doctor sees holes blown in the walls by the rogue Dalek and assumes it must be Ace's handiwork! I liked the classic four-parter pacing with the intro episode showing the various strands and the clever 'false start' of the expedition - four characters well-imagined and well-drawn that it was a real shock that three were toast before the theme rolled again - and Bev Tarrant! I haven't heard the relevant Benny stories yet but I've heard the name and I hadn't a clue this was where she came from - going into these archeologically ancient stories with as much ignorance as possible is paying dividends in surprises. Now, the Dalek voices - what was all the fuss about, 19 years ago? To my ears I assumed Nick and Alistair Lock were aiming for something like the earlier classic-era voices - there was plenty of variation in earlier Dalek stories; only much later was there a standard Dalek sound and (apart from the unfortunate 'Day of the Daleks') I think all the TV voices worked well and so do these. And the moment that they are introduced, wordlessly, by the electronic 'heartbeat' that screams DALEKS! was a spine-tingler and the highlight of the really excellent sound design and music. I know these early Dalek stories tie into the first part of 'Dalek Empire' (also in my backlog!) and I'm looking forward to exploring that in due course. For now, I thought 'The Genocide Machine' was a terrific and authentic opener for "The Supreme Beings'" long BF career.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 14:45:05 GMT
Nice to see some love for The Genocide Machine. A veritable Big Finish classic!
Also the first Big Finish story I ever bought, back in 2000 - on cassette no less - and the story that convinced me that Doctor Who could work on audio. The Genocide Machine is still one of my favourite Big Finish Doctor Who stories.
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Post by slithe on Jan 13, 2019 18:31:30 GMT
This one brings back an awful lot of nostalgic memories for me. Also makes me feel old (where has the 19 year interval gone between release in 2000 and the present?)
I'd been aware of BF through DWM and had pestered parents to get some of the CDs. At that time I was still at secondary school, but as I didn't have a job and you couldn't buy BF CDs in the shops, it was a case of persuading them to order one. As my parents weren't exactly huge Doctor Who fans (and at that time the series was pretty much seen as defunct) they couldn't really see why I would want to listen to stories based on the show. In short, they thought it was a rather *niche* (if not geeky) interest and didn't really want to indulge it. I kept pestering and managed to get The Sirens of Time for Christmas, but that was about it. When I saw this release advertised, it was one I *had* to have and made sure that I was able to get my hands on it. Fortunately, persistence paid off and I was able to obtain a copy shortly after release. From hereon, I also made sure that I would be able to buy my own CDs, and ended up using cash I had to get the releases.
As Stevo says, this release *confirms* that Doctor who can work on audio. I think we also forget *how* special this release was - it was the first *proper* return of the Daleks. After two disappointing John Peel books, a cameo in The Movie (if you can call it that) and two PC Games, this was the first time fans got a decent story with the monsters in it. With Mike Tucker writing, it is perhaps unsurprising that the Seventh Doctor was chosen and the story does fit the characterisation of his era as shown on the TV. It is interesting to recall that it was this that led to some criticisms about the story being rather pedestrian - there isn't much of the manipulative Seventh Doctor here and, to be honest, it could be *any* Doctor against the Daleks. It also felt like a traditional Terry Nation story (even down to the jungle and use of Tarrant as a surname), which also left the story open for criticism. However, valid as these points are, isn't it all worthwhile when you hear that Dalek 'heartbeat' sound - I can always remember getting tingles when I first heard this. The Daleks in BF - you knew that this was a series that meant business and was trying to do it properly.
I think the story has aged relatively well. It is better than some of the recent Dalek stories, but does fall into that nostalgic glow - which reflects the initial approach of BF to reach out to fans. The use of the data storage machine and the process involved is interesting, but I would have liked it to be developed a bit more. I also question whether everything would still be kept in print format - again, reflecting the fact that Tucker didn't foresee the changes in storage through the use of Memory Sticks and Thumb Drives. The premise of the Daleks knowing everything and becoming less likely to kill or obey without question is an interesting one and, ironically, the Daleks defeat themselves. The story also re-establishes the Daleks as a threat/menace in their own right and it is good that they are, finally, shorn of Davros for a while. It unsurprising that Russel T Davies used these early Dalek stories as inspirations for the relaunch in 2005 - they go back to the essence of what Nation wanted the creatures to be.
McCoy seems to have found his feet more in this one and doesn't appear to be 'talking' at the microphone as much (I picked this up on the re-listen to the Fearmonger). Aldred is convincing as Ace and doesn't sound like she's been away - just very noisy and teenage like (explains why the reaction to the story wasn't create as she has 'regressed' in some ways since the NAs). Her performance as the clone Ace isn't great and it is a give-away that she is a Dalek copy (almost as bad, aurally, as the use of the duplicate in The Chase!!) Elgin is tolerable but I would liked to have seen him get his just deserts - perhaps being left with the ruined library is enough.
Great title - much better than the original 'Wetworks'.
Had forgotten how good 2000 was for the MR - some real gems here: The Marian Conspiracy, Spectre of Laynon Moor, Holy Terror, Fires of Vulcan.
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Post by eric009 on Jan 17, 2019 2:39:20 GMT
so glad I've got this on cd my computer went up the wall for about a month I had to go to mates copy some CDs on mp3 player thought I was mad however his 9-year old son thought it was great he now 14 looks at review buys the download on BF saves up his pocket money got him all war doctor box sets for Xmas this 1 gets played about 3 times a year
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 2:55:20 GMT
I think people might find this CGI animation of interest. *taps nose* I found it roughly the same time I was listening to The Genocide Machine for the first time, so it left a pretty indelible impact on how I perceived the Dalek Emperor in those Big Finish stories. A nice hybrid of Evil and the TV21 comics:
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Post by Ela on Jan 17, 2019 17:30:58 GMT
Cool, @wolfie53.
I have to say I enjoyed The Genocide Machine. Thought it was an interesting release.
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Post by Tim Bradley on Jan 18, 2019 7:55:09 GMT
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jan 18, 2019 12:27:02 GMT
Also one of the two Dalek Empire prologues that actually has something to do with Dalek Empire lmao
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 23:22:44 GMT
I did! Nice review Tim.
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Post by mark687 on Jan 10, 2021 21:40:03 GMT
So reached this Today in my MR marathon and it stuck me how unassuming it is. 1st use of the Daleks by BF and they're a story function rather than a story focus. In fact focus shifts almost completely in EP 4 from them and their plan to the dark secret behind Wetworks that their almost redundant. A thief/blackmailer with robot clones would've worked just as well.
On the subject of the secret there's beats left for an attempted justification by Elgin for the Library's actions that would've been interesting to hear.
Sylvester and Sophie great as usual, especially Sophie in the final scenes of her dual role.
4/5
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Post by ljwilson on Jan 11, 2021 9:46:41 GMT
So reached this Today in my MR marathon and it stuck me how unassuming it is. 1st use of the Daleks by BF and they're a story function rather than a story focus. In fact focus shifts almost completely in EP 4 from them and their plan to the dark secret behind Wetworks that their almost redundant. A thief/blackmailer with robot clones would've worked just as well. On the subject of the secret there's beats left for an attempted justification by Elgin for the Library's actions that would've been interesting to hear. Sylvester and Sophie great as usual, especially Sophie in the final scenes of her dual role. 4/5 Regards mark687 Great that you are doing a relisten mark. I really like The Genocide Machine and the comfort listening factor. A highly enjoyable 7 out of 10.
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Post by melkur on Jan 11, 2021 19:56:56 GMT
I think this story was one of the first BF stories I listened to (after 'Time Of The Daleks'), having got it and 'Red Dawn' from one of my local Oxfams.
I've relistened to it over the past couple of days and, whilst I will say that I didn't (quite) love it as much as I did when I was 14-or-so, it's still a pretty good story and something that I should try and listen to more regularly (like with 'The Mutant Phase', which I've also just listened to, it's easily been 10yrs since the last time I did!)
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Post by slithe on Jan 16, 2021 12:54:42 GMT
Really like this one... Can remember pestering parents to buy this and getting quite annoyed when they were reluctant to do so. I also recall the hype about this one in DWM - I particularly remember the comic strip that was published as a précis of this story (when did they stop - I lost touch with DW for a while and when I dipped back into DWM a few years ago, couldn't find any).
As the 'first' outing for the Daleks - I think BF did a fairly good job here. It ticks the stereotypes of Dalek stories - 'jungle planet', advanced technology, hidden Dalek technology and subterfuge. The decision not to include Davros was a wise move and gives the Daleks centre stage again in a way they hadn't had for a long time. The story itself is quite a good one and is solid - it puts together more familiar elements of previous Dalek stories and is quite a homage to Terry Nation in many ways.
It's not perfect - some of the Dalek voices are difficult to tell apart in places, particularly when there are several Daleks in the same scene. The gag with Prink gets very tiresome after a while and Elgin should have been exterminated.
It is interesting that data storage is something we are now looking at taking more seriously - this could be an example of science fiction leading the way to reality. The concept of the Genocide Machine is quite a horrific one and does make you wonder if the Daleks or the librarians are the actual villains here. Love the idea that a Dalek knowing everything actually stops being a Dalek - neat idea (even if it does make the plot redundant!)
Not perfect by any means, but a good first outing. Showed BF could do the Daleks and hinted that the Main Range had a strong future ahead of it.
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Post by mark687 on Nov 14, 2021 16:28:54 GMT
A random archive discovery
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