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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 9:01:05 GMT
I just purchased the entire Dark Eyes as a gift for a friend so thought I’d pay it a wee visit.....Lucie dead....and a new era. For 8.....that for me seems to have ended with Stranded am still debating skipping Stranded 3 and 4 but I at least can enjoy Dark Eyes,Doom and Ravenous 🥳
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Post by tuigirl on Mar 20, 2021 9:19:57 GMT
Still in my top 10....
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Mar 20, 2021 9:30:03 GMT
It’s got some good points. It’s got some bad points. It’s got some needing of another edit points.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 9:40:44 GMT
It’s got some good points. It’s got some bad points. It’s got some needing of another edit points. More good than bad for me it was fresh exciting and the first story benefitted from limited Daleks lol
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Mar 20, 2021 10:27:42 GMT
The first boxset was great & works as a standalone but then they decided to give us more & it all felt unnecessary. From my vague memory Molly isn't even in all of them!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 10:40:45 GMT
The first boxset was great & works as a standalone but then they decided to give us more & it all felt unnecessary. From my vague memory Molly isn't even in all of them! Yep she isn’t but I still felt it was a great attempt at doing something quite epic...and led to bigger and I think better Doom and Ravenous...and hey Peter Egan and T0by Jones too.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Mar 20, 2021 10:43:56 GMT
The first boxset was great & works as a standalone but then they decided to give us more & it all felt unnecessary. From my vague memory Molly isn't even in all of them! Yep she isn’t but I still felt it was a great attempt at doing something quite epic...and led to bigger and I think better Doom and Ravenous...and hey Peter Egan and T0by Jones too. I guess I am just not into these epics across multiple boxsets. But I think that is where we are going now the monthly range has been destroyed.
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Post by mbt66 on Mar 20, 2021 10:49:03 GMT
Re-listening to those epic 8th Doctor box sets is firmly on my to do list
I loved all of them - Dark Eyes, Doom Coalition and Ravenous. Epic adventures, epic entertainment.
I can understand why they decided to do something different with Stranded, which I hope will be just a breather series until the stakes get raised again for the 8th Doctor. In the meantime I have high hopes that the 10th Doctor in the Dalek Universe will take on that “Epic Series” mantle.
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Post by muckypup on Mar 20, 2021 14:30:25 GMT
am i alone? (most probably) but I really don't like any of the 8th doctor stuff post lucie… Dark eyes had 3 boxes too many, doom coalition made little sense after vol 2 etc..... its the format i am sure, why is the 8th range now just full of epic story arcs that ultimately go nowhere
my plea going forward is.....can the 8th doc have smaller less universe shattering tales with no overall story arc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 14:40:42 GMT
Yep she isn’t but I still felt it was a great attempt at doing something quite epic...and led to bigger and I think better Doom and Ravenous...and hey Peter Egan and T0by Jones too. I guess I am just not into these epics across multiple boxsets. But I think that is where we are going now the monthly range has been destroyed. They don’t have to be Epic box sets-individual stories like Toms range work
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 14:41:59 GMT
am i alone? (most probably) but I really don't like any of the 8th doctor stuff post lucie… Dark eyes had 3 boxes too many, doom coalition made little sense after vol 2 etc..... its the format i am sure, why is the 8th range now just full of epic story arcs that ultimately go nowhere my plea going forward is.....can the 8th doc have smaller less universe shattering tales with no overall story arc. Well the only 0ne I didn’t like has been Stranded..just don’t enjoy it but the others I love....Stranded is trying the less Universe shattering but....
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Post by theillusiveman on Mar 20, 2021 14:48:49 GMT
am i alone? (most probably) but I really don't like any of the 8th doctor stuff post lucie… Dark eyes had 3 boxes too many, doom coalition made little sense after vol 2 etc..... its the format i am sure, why is the 8th range now just full of epic story arcs that ultimately go nowhere my plea going forward is.....can the 8th doc have smaller less universe shattering tales with no overall story arc. Dont worry you arent alone with the exception of Dark Eyes 1 i found that there is nothing really substantial for The 8th Doctor its just filler as they cant do anything really unique or give 8 more character development after Moffatt Killed him off in Night
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Post by theillusiveman on Mar 20, 2021 14:49:17 GMT
am i alone? (most probably) but I really don't like any of the 8th doctor stuff post lucie… Dark eyes had 3 boxes too many, doom coalition made little sense after vol 2 etc..... its the format i am sure, why is the 8th range now just full of epic story arcs that ultimately go nowhere my plea going forward is.....can the 8th doc have smaller less universe shattering tales with no overall story arc. Well the only 0ne I didn’t like has been Stranded..just don’t enjoy it but the others I love....Stranded is trying the less Universe shattering but.... its Hollyoaks with Doctor who characters
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 15:06:44 GMT
Well the only 0ne I didn’t like has been Stranded..just don’t enjoy it but the others I love....Stranded is trying the less Universe shattering but.... its Hollyoaks with Doctor who characters Yes I felt like that spot on....it’s soap am glad it works for some but I expect to be grabbed at least by second set if no the first ...the first story did kind of grab me but it went downhill for me after that...like I said win some lose some...glad I didn’t get the bundle tbh
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Mar 20, 2021 15:07:08 GMT
am i alone? (most probably) but I really don't like any of the 8th doctor stuff post lucie… Dark eyes had 3 boxes too many, doom coalition made little sense after vol 2 etc..... its the format i am sure, why is the 8th range now just full of epic story arcs that ultimately go nowhere my plea going forward is.....can the 8th doc have smaller less universe shattering tales with no overall story arc. Agree 100%! Its always some evil threat that wants to destroy time/the universe/everything usually involving some secret/myth from the history of the timelords. B-O-R-I-N-G!!!
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Post by ljwilson on Mar 21, 2021 8:57:22 GMT
am i alone? (most probably) but I really don't like any of the 8th doctor stuff post lucie… Dark eyes had 3 boxes too many, doom coalition made little sense after vol 2 etc..... its the format i am sure, why is the 8th range now just full of epic story arcs that ultimately go nowhere my plea going forward is.....can the 8th doc have smaller less universe shattering tales with no overall story arc. Agree 100%! Its always some evil threat that wants to destroy time/the universe/everything usually involving some secret/myth from the history of the timelords. B-O-R-I-N-G!!! Slightly off piste but that's why I love The Bounty of Ceres so much. Yes, it has superbly crafted atmospherics, but the story is self contained and small scale.
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Post by Kestrel on Nov 27, 2021 2:48:51 GMT
So, unless anyone objects, I think I'll make new threads for each of the individual boxsets soon, and move the link to this thread from the Index to the sub-range as a whole. That sound okay?
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Anyway, I'm wrapping up DE 3.4 right now, and while I've certainly got a lot to say about this relisten, I'm gonna shelve all that for now because I just keep thinking about The Further Adventuress.
Because, and I really hope this doesn't read as a hot take, I think it's pretty clear that Molly O'Sullivan was the best part of Dark Eyes and, holy ****, did this range completely and utterly fail to take advantage of that. Like... I think we're really, really due a boxset or two of standalone adventures with Molly, right? Right? Right.
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Post by theillusiveman on Nov 27, 2021 3:47:19 GMT
So, unless anyone objects, I think I'll make new threads for each of the individual boxsets soon, and move the link to this thread from the Index to the sub-range as a whole. That sound okay? .... .... .... .... Anyway, I'm wrapping up DE 3.4 right now, and while I've certainly got a lot to say about this relisten, I'm gonna shelve all that for now because I just keep thinking about The Further Adventuress. Because, and I really hope this doesn't read as a hot take, I think it's pretty clear that Molly O'Sullivan was the best part of Dark Eyes and, holy ****, did this range completely and utterly fail to take advantage of that. Like... I think we're really, really due a boxset or two of standalone adventures with Molly, right? Right? Right. Well last weeks podcast Nick said there was no plans to have Molly return Yeah they utterly sidelined Molly for Liv and that annoyed me they even Basically took Molly’s personality from Dark Eyes 1 and gave it to Liv Then dark eyes 2-4 we’re unnecessary extensions to a story that should have been one off
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 9:03:40 GMT
So, unless anyone objects, I think I'll make new threads for each of the individual boxsets soon, and move the link to this thread from the Index to the sub-range as a whole. That sound okay? .... .... .... .... Anyway, I'm wrapping up DE 3.4 right now, and while I've certainly got a lot to say about this relisten, I'm gonna shelve all that for now because I just keep thinking about The Further Adventuress. Because, and I really hope this doesn't read as a hot take, I think it's pretty clear that Molly O'Sullivan was the best part of Dark Eyes and, holy ****, did this range completely and utterly fail to take advantage of that. Like... I think we're really, really due a boxset or two of standalone adventures with Molly, right? Right? Right. Am not sure about stand alone with Molly basically her arc was told but if the stories were the type that only would work with Mollie then i would go for it. As for Dark Eyes it was a brave attempt to do something different and something epic in scope but am sure it could have been completed in two sets rather than four but i do enjoy listening to all four sets once in a while so am not going to complain.I think there is a place for these epics when the story allows Dark Universe i think did a more compact attempt with the three story sets.But the 4th episode normally allows a great stand alone story which isnt just filler.
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Post by mbt66 on Nov 28, 2021 10:53:43 GMT
I loved Ruth Bradley as Molly and would have liked to hear more of her, but unfortunately the actor wasn’t due to be available, so the writers had to take the story in another direction out of necessity.
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