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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 23:08:43 GMT
As for the release, I was initially disappointed that it was "only" an audiobook reading before realising how much narration the actual series had. Preordered it immediately but time will tell if I actually listen to it. I may not because I have missed Dorian. Series 5 was December 2016.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 23:19:54 GMT
Also, disappointed that there's only 15 minutes of interviews per se. Well, 15 minutes is quite a lot between two people. Plus, we've already chatted a lot extensively on the free Confessions of Alexander Vlahos release. Plus, we've also recorded a commentary for The Heart That Lives Alone. I think 45 minutes of new bonus content is (hopefully) sufficient!
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Post by newt5996 on Feb 7, 2019 23:41:16 GMT
Well now I really need to catch up on Dorian don’t I? I loved the first two series when I listened to them like two years ago (Jeez time flies), but I never actually bought series 3-5. Maybe because the range had ended so I felt I had time, so I guess now I’m almost obligated to catch up.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 7, 2019 23:51:11 GMT
Well now I really need to catch up on Dorian don’t I? I loved the first two series when I listened to them like two years ago (Jeez time flies), but I never actually bought series 3-5. Maybe because the range had ended so I felt I had time, so I guess now I’m almost obligated to catch up. It's worth it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 0:34:51 GMT
As for the release, I was initially disappointed that it was "only" an audiobook reading I think the audiobook route is the way to go for these and I think it's an interesting release; readings of Dorian Gray stories that didn't get made, including the original planned ending to Series 5. Sometimes a full-cast series runs it's course and I think Confessions did. I am more intrigued by these readings of unmade stories than I would be by a proper Series 6. (So much so that I have already pre-ordered The Lost Confessions.)
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 8, 2019 0:46:05 GMT
I love the oddity of having a commentary track for a audio production. I don't know if it is possible or not but it would be nice if there were a You Tube version where we heard the commentary as text from the script was also being displayed.
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Post by Trace on Feb 8, 2019 1:17:25 GMT
I’m thrilled to death with this announcement! Love me some Dorian in any format I can get! Only disappointment for me is “download only”, but I get it. I too, had long ago abandoned CDs except for three titles: Dark Shadows, Survivors, and Dorian Gray. No matter...I’ll be getting it anyway! And if we can cast votes for a possible later physical release, count me in.
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Post by pawntake on Feb 8, 2019 8:07:00 GMT
Music by Robert Harvey?? Also, disappointed that there's only 15 minutes of interviews per se. Should have been "Handcocks Half Hour!"
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Post by lidar2 on Feb 8, 2019 8:49:59 GMT
Well, it probably was a bit harsh... but true nonetheless. I also thought it was a bad way to end a great series. The finale was a BIG let down. I agree. I'll probably accept this as the true ending of the series. I certainly didn't think the ending was bad, not at all, but it wasn't the ending I wanted for Dorian. So in my personal Dorian headcanon the alternate ending may become the "proper" ending.
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Post by glutamodo on Feb 8, 2019 11:12:32 GMT
I didn't think it ended too badly either. Also I knew it was a planned ending, and I was fine with that. Not sure how much I like a return it to, since they seemed pretty dead set on buttoning it off. But that did not stop me from hitting the purchase button right away.
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Post by masterdoctor on Feb 8, 2019 14:59:42 GMT
I loved the ending for Dorian as I went in thinking it was going to be a regular, oft-done story but got something that was much more challenging to listen to. That being said, I can't wait to hear these, because I love both Dorian Gray and Big Finish Audiobooks!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 19:26:47 GMT
Chalk my name on the list of people rather enthusiastic for this particular release..😊
As for 'Ever After'.. I rather enjoyed the fact the final story was so ambiguous and we weren't led by the nose to a conclusion. Was everything that happened since 'This World Our Hell' nothing but the twisted fantasies of a drug addicted and broken mind in 2016? Or was 'Ever After' simply 'the man upstairs' gleefully ******* with Dorian's head as some form of eternal damnation?
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Post by fingersmash on Feb 8, 2019 20:36:18 GMT
Chalk my name on the list of people rather enthusiastic for this particular release..😊 As for 'Ever After'.. I rather enjoyed the fact the final story was so ambiguous and we weren't led by the nose to a conclusion. Was everything that happened since 'This World Our Hell' nothing but the twisted fantasies of a drug addicted and broken mind in 2016? Or was 'Ever After' simply 'the man upstairs' gleefully ******* with Dorian's head as some form of eternal damnation? I prefer the later. It makes the series seem worth it, for lack of a better phrase. Don't St. Elsewhere a good series when it doesn't need an ending of the sort.
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Post by axelotl38 on Feb 9, 2019 3:59:27 GMT
I didn't mind the ending of Ever After, and I appreciate it as both being a celebration of the series but also not being just a standard conclusion. In saying that, I wasn't entirely enthused by the abstractness of it. The idea of "Is this real or just a fantasy" is a storytelling trope that's never appealed to me. As Fingersmash says, if none of it is 'real' (within its world) then it doesn't seem a point. It's not the story of Dorian Gray, just the story of someone pretending to be Dorian Gray. But I also think Ever After works well by making Dorian think he COULD be crazy. The one thing he identifies as, the Dorian Gray of Oscar Wilde fame, being told that he isn't. I assumed/preffered that it was just Lucifer messing around with Dorian's head.
I think I'm definitely rambling at this point: Point is I thought the finale was an excellent finale, even if I disagree with some of the ideas within, but I am very much looking forward to the alternate takes as well!
And actually, if Scott Handcock is reading (Hello there!), I was curious as to why these stories were never adapted in the first place. Is there perhaps stories from other writers that could also be adapted, or is it safe to say this is definitively the last of Dorian (Though to be fair, you said that last time!).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 11:32:49 GMT
And actually, if Scott Handcock is reading (Hello there!), I was curious as to why these stories were never adapted in the first place. Is there perhaps stories from other writers that could also be adapted, or is it safe to say this is definitively the last of Dorian (Though to be fair, you said that last time!). Hello! Well, we've been a bit cheeky in bending our rules... technically, this isn't a continuation (the series is still over), and Alex isn't 'playing' Dorian again. As for why these particular scripts were never made... well, the first two were written a decade ago as spec scripts, long before 2012 when Big Finish came on board, so the approach was slightly different. They were hour-long stories that then never fitted into the series' half-hour format, hence not being pursued. I came across them when going through old documents and, knowing there was an unused finale, thought it could be an interesting project to adapt them as a trio. There are some interesting divergences from the existing Confessions continuity, but also some strong similarities to what we eventually presented. Generally, if we commissioned stories, they ended up being produced - hence the only unmade stories being ones from me, as I'd happily work up a draft on spec and park it if a new idea came along. There was a third story planned back in 2009, but that was only half-written, and a very different take on "Running Away With You" when we first tackled series two (again, it was almost a one-hour special until Roy Gill came up with "The Prime of Deacon Brodie" and I promoted that story to the Hallowe'en special slot). So who knows? Maybe there is space for further alternatives, but they'd need more work polishing up than the three presented here. We talk more about this all on the extras - Alex was just as fascinated as anyone - but hopefully this gives a vague idea!
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 9, 2019 11:40:00 GMT
And actually, if Scott Handcock is reading (Hello there!), I was curious as to why these stories were never adapted in the first place. Is there perhaps stories from other writers that could also be adapted, or is it safe to say this is definitively the last of Dorian (Though to be fair, you said that last time!). Hello! Well, we've been a bit cheeky in bending our rules... technically, this isn't a continuation (the series is still over), and Alex isn't 'playing' Dorian again. As for why these particular scripts were never made... well, the first two were written a decade ago as spec scripts, long before 2012 when Big Finish came on board, so the approach was slightly different. They were hour-long stories that then never fitted into the series' half-hour format, hence not being pursued. I came across them when going through old documents and, knowing there was an unused finale, thought it could be an interesting project to adapt them as a trio. There are some interesting divergences from the existing Confessions continuity, but also some strong similarities to what we eventually presented. Generally, if we commissioned stories, they ended up being produced - hence the only unmade stories being ones from me, as I'd happily work up a draft on spec and park it if a new idea came along. There was a third story planned back in 2009, but that was only half-written, and a very different take on "Running Away With You" when we first tackled series two (again, it was almost a one-hour special until Roy Gill came up with "The Prime of Deacon Brodie" and I promoted that story to the Hallowe'en special slot). So who knows? Maybe there is space for further alternatives, but they'd need more work polishing up than the three presented here. We talk more about this all on the extras - Alex was just as fascinated as anyone - but hopefully this gives a vague idea! Great insight- colour me intrigued with these and onboard for sure
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Post by Zagreus on Feb 9, 2019 21:03:20 GMT
Oh man that's fascinating stuff! I'd love to hear more about your early work on the series, and how it came to be. Looking forward to those extras!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2019 16:09:29 GMT
Definitely look forward to this. I would rather have this than Dorian appearing in another range. After Hamlet ,Alex’s voice is such a rich thing to listen to
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Post by Jaedan on Feb 17, 2019 10:59:35 GMT
I can't believe I only just found out about this I've had connection problems recently, and this forum just wouldn't load properly. I'm lucky a group on FB posted about it. (Although I did embarrass myself there by declaring that I was going away immediately to download and listen to the new material... oops). I really hope "The Last Confession" is post-season-five-finale. I was so disappointed in that story. Not that it wasn't necessarily a good one, but personally, I dislike the mental asylum 'you're-not-who-you-think-you-are' storyline in any fiction I've seen it in. Especially as it was the last one in the series. I'd love to see a different ending so I'll be keeping my fingers crossed. I have no idea how I'm going to get to August without exploding with impatience!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 12:21:50 GMT
I really hope "The Last Confession" is post-season-five-finale. I was so disappointed in that story. Not that it wasn't necessarily a good one, but personally, I dislike the mental asylum 'you're-not-who-you-think-you-are' storyline in any fiction I've seen it in. Especially as it was the last one in the series. I'd love to see a different ending so I'll be keeping my fingers crossed. From what I understand, we're going to get to hear a story that was the original planned ending of the series, not a continuation post the Series 5 finale. So the end The Confessions of Dorian Gray is still the actual end of the series. We're just getting a glimpse of what might have been. (Of course, there's nothing to say we can't pretend it's the real last episode if we wish!)
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