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Post by Thebogiehole on Feb 15, 2019 14:34:06 GMT
Well, The Curse of Mr. Bean: Do you think Bean ever goes after those boys who caused him to fall from the diving board? Likewise, I wish i could be a fly on the wall when the parents of the little girl in the yellow swimsuit realise that she's got a pair of men's swim trunks with her as well as her snorkel. I wonder if the women's swimming class that Bean flashes are traumatised for long? I have a family photo from that era taken at my local swimming centre of the beginners swimmers class and EVERY ONE of the small girls is wearing some variation of the swimsuit the little girl in The Curse of Mr Bean wore. And of course even if eighties culture and fashion hadn't "hung over" into the early nineties, since there was no year zero, 1990 is part of the previous decade. Mr. Bean thwarted by a kindergartner:
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Post by relativetime on Feb 15, 2019 16:36:32 GMT
I feel like I've stumbled into the middle of a conversation here and I'm not sure what exactly is going on...
I do like Mr. Bean, though, so I guess that's my contribution to the discussion.
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Post by muckypup on Feb 15, 2019 16:47:42 GMT
Mr bean.....arhhhhhhh......nooooooo
Life’s too short........
Made a ton of money, shown everywhere but destroyed Roman Atkinson’s credibility for years
There’s something just too creepy and serial killerish about them for me to watch more than 5mins
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Post by shutupbanks on Feb 16, 2019 0:06:06 GMT
... but destroyed Roman Atkinson’s credibility for years With whom?
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Post by omega on Feb 16, 2019 0:58:25 GMT
Mr bean.....arhhhhhhh......nooooooo Life’s too short........ Made a ton of money, shown everywhere but destroyed Roman Atkinson’s credibility for years There’s something just too creepy and serial killerish about them for me to watch more than 5mins He’s done other things like Johnny English.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Feb 16, 2019 1:19:08 GMT
Mr bean.....arhhhhhhh......nooooooo Life’s too short........ Made a ton of money, shown everywhere but destroyed Roman Atkinson’s credibility for years There’s something just too creepy and serial killerish about them for me to watch more than 5mins I once taught a cohort of children where everyone bar one child loved Mr Bean. Roll to the last couple of days of the year. It’s hot. It’s REALLY damn hot. Everyone has had enough. It’s decided to have a movie afternoon. No one suggests Bean. Honest to God, no one did. All that happened is that I pick up the DVD pile and Bean was one of them. And the child in question meltsdown. Screams. Abuse. Things being thrown. DVDs are snatched from my hand and thrown into the compost pile. my reaction was as calmly as possible to walk out of the room, with everyone else in tow and call an early lunch.
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Post by Thebogiehole on Feb 16, 2019 11:07:47 GMT
Mr Bean does a few things which could be seen as "harassing, alarming and distressing" (to quote that old cliché again) if he similar things in public in real life, in other words, Mr [sic] Public would be arrested and even go to prison of he copied it for himself. Referring to the Goes to Town episode, when going back to the days when electric plugs had a "batteries not included" aspect towards electrical items and one had to wire them up, putting the Live, Earth and Neutral in the right place - when he buys a new television set we see Bean twist the wires into the plug which is something that would not work in real life - in fact, a Central continuity announcer had reminded Midlands viewers not to copy him doing that with a plug at the end of one of the mid 1990s repeats. The videos always got a U certificate and not a PG one by either the BBFC or the VSC.
Another was the fact that Mind the Baby was postponed twice in 1993 and 1994 because of the similarities with the storyline and the James Bulger murder. The fact that Bean takes an unrelated baby to a seaside destination (Southsea?) seems rather alarming when one thinks of child abductions and the like especially in the early to mid 1990s. For the 1993 showing it was replaced by the first showing of the Room 426 episode set in a hotel (and ironically enough, set in another coastal destination), and was postponed again around a year later because of the trial and the distress, and was replaced by a repeat of a previous episode. It was eventually shown a few months after the Bulger murder trial was concluded.
Getting back to the swimming pool episode, it says rather a lot about society's treatment of girls that even the child version of 1990 female swimwear was so skimpy that it didn't prevent most of the little girl's bare behind from showing to the camera as she leaves with Bean's trunks.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Feb 16, 2019 13:36:12 GMT
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Post by Digi on Feb 16, 2019 17:38:28 GMT
I seem to remember a time when we could just enjoy things without overanalyzing so that we can be alarmed/OFFENDED at all times.
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Post by glutamodo on Feb 16, 2019 21:33:19 GMT
I never tried to seek out the Mr. Bean programme, but when I'd come across it on PBS in the 90s, I'd watch it, there weren't that many of them as I recall. To me it was a slightly tamer version of the silent Benny Hill skits, which I had loved watching in the previous decade. Okay, neither of them were PC. (And going to the other extreme, I guess there's no hope for me, as I also rather like the songs of Ivor Biggun)
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Post by shutupbanks on Feb 16, 2019 23:06:25 GMT
I seem to remember a time when we could just enjoy things without overanalyzing so that we can be alarmed/OFFENDED at all times. D & D moral panic, heavy metal moral panic, Mary Whitehouse, comic book hysteria in the 50s, burning Harry Potter books, burning Beatles albums, Salman Rushdie spending half his life in hiding, the outrage over nudity in Hair, the outrage over Life Of Brian... ... It's always been there. Sometimes it's justified, often it's not. FWIW, I agree that Bean is funny but also that some of what he does is of concern which makes it a different kind of beast and one that should be discussed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 6:13:24 GMT
I seem to remember a time when we could just enjoy things without overanalyzing so that we can be alarmed/OFFENDED at all times. D & D moral panic, heavy metal moral panic, Mary Whitehouse, comic book hysteria in the 50s, burning Harry Potter books, burning Beatles albums, Salman Rushdie spending half his life in hiding, the outrage over nudity in Hair, the outrage over Life Of Brian... ... It's always been there. Sometimes it's justified, often it's not. FWIW, I agree that Bean is funny but also that some of what he does is of concern which makes it a different kind of beast and one that should be discussed. Patrick McGoohan being forced to flee into the hills over the ending to The Prisoner... The outcry of Elvis Presley being shot below the waist on television (man had provocative hips, apparently)... The Hays Code enforcing "Godliness and decency" on 1930s/1940s Hollywood films (which backfired spectacularly if you look at film noir)... Regency women not being permitted to read such "filth" as the Gothic novel for it would corrode the soul... It doesn't matter if it was video games, talkies or basic prose, there's always been something. That said, never confuse discussion with controversy. It's a lot like understanding vs. endorsing something: the two can be mutually exclusive. I have very hazy memories of Mr Bean from (very) young childhood. The strongest being the Mini getting flattened by a tank: But I forgot about it when I graduated to Blackadder and its like later on. I probably thought it was rather funny at the time (the gif does make me smile for Atkinson's pitch-perfect acting), but I can't say that it's left much of an impression.
It can make for an interesting historical artefact two decades on. Particularly in how behaviours and expectations have shifted since the early 90s, but I'd take it with a pinch of salt. Comedy is subjective even within its own zeitgeist and it's all about a very particular kind of absurdity and exaggeration (contrast Mr Bean with Jeeves and Wooster, which was also airing at that time). Drama tends to be a more reliable avenue for exploring changing societal attitudes and expecations; The Avengers (1961-69) vs. The Professionals (1977-83) or old MacGyver (1985-92) vs. new MacGyver (2016-), for example.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Feb 17, 2019 6:18:30 GMT
We used to watch Mr Bean for English class in the late 80's/early 90's.. And a couple Black Adder episodes too.
"Little Britain" was another classic OTT comedy show
As a family we used to watch Benny Hill and The Kenny Everett Video show on it's 1st run on tv, late 70's- early 80' - I didn't "get" most of the Kenny Everett jokes until I was a couple years older.
It's like the 60's Batman tv series- double entendres for everyone, so the parents could watch it with the kids.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 17:34:00 GMT
Mr bean.....arhhhhhhh......nooooooo Life’s too short........ Made a ton of money, shown everywhere but destroyed Roman Atkinson’s credibility for years There’s something just too creepy and serial killerish about them for me to watch more than 5mins So true. Really terrible 'comedy'. What happened to Rowan? At one time he was a brilliant comedian, then he did Mr Bean, those appalling Johnny English movies & defended Boris Johnson's racist comments.
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Post by Thebogiehole on Feb 18, 2019 23:01:47 GMT
I don’t like it when helpless members of society get caught up in Bean’s antics such as babies. I was a victim of abuse as a child and the emotional scars have faded but never healed. Whenever a child causes trouble for Bean like the two little boys or the little blonde girl that takes his trunks, I remain frightened that Bean is capable of violence against those children for the sake of revenge. Just like my father who liked to throw me around when he was in a rage.
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Post by Ela on Feb 19, 2019 5:09:38 GMT
I haven't ever watched Mr. Bean. And I'm sorry to hear that you suffered abuse as a child, Thebogiehole. I'm not really getting a sense of what the show was about from the discussion above, though.
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Post by Thebogiehole on Feb 19, 2019 11:31:31 GMT
Ela Sometimes you can never escape fear. I know that little girl in The Curse of Mr Bean is just a fictional character in a swimsuit not a real person, but i was once a little girl in a swimsuit and that didn't save or protect me. I'm sorry. Sometimes you are so damaged you don't easily think clearly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 13:38:04 GMT
I'm not really getting a sense of what the show was about from the discussion above, though. Its basically very broad slapstick visual comedy. Influenced by silent films but nowhere near as good. It was hugely popular I think the lack of dialogue meant it could easily find an overseas non-english speaking audience.
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Post by Ela on Feb 19, 2019 15:11:59 GMT
Ela Sometimes you can never escape fear. I know that little girl in The Curse of Mr Bean is just a fictional character in a swimsuit not a real person, but i was once a little girl in a swimsuit and that didn't save or protect me. I'm sorry. Sometimes you are so damaged you don't easily think clearly. I get that. Hope you are getting help. And just suggesting that maybe you shouldn’t watch the show if it triggers you. There’s lots of stuff out there. Personally, I avoid things that would make me that uncomfortable or fearful.
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Post by Ela on Feb 19, 2019 15:12:33 GMT
I'm not really getting a sense of what the show was about from the discussion above, though. Its basically very broad slapstick visual comedy. Influenced by silent films but nowhere near as good. It was hugely popular I think the lack of dialogue meant it could easily find an overseas non-english speaking audience. Thanks for the info.
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