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Post by shallacatop on Oct 18, 2020 11:02:03 GMT
To be fair, they’re not saying they’re not an equally valid purchase. What they’re saying is that they’ve looked at the sales figures and are noticing an even larger gap between the sales of physical and digital releases. They’ve not gone all out and canned the CD releases, instead they’re labelling them as “collector’s editions”, as there’s no guarantee they’ll receive a repressing. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that; it’s a good way to ensure physical releases whilst not being worse off by having excess hanging around the warehouse. Basically learning from their mistake, which doesn’t happen with Big Finish all that often! They let us know when stock is getting closer to being out of print, though I don’t think that’s happened for any recent releases, except Class which are intentionally limited. I totally get what you mean, but to me it just feels like a small minutia insinuation, and that doesn't 100% sit well with me. Oh well. Yeah, I do see where you’re coming from. For me it’s just their way of justifying why they may suddenly say they’re close to being out of print of, say, Hearts of Darkness just a few months after it comes out. They’ve almost sold their initial print run and based on previous War Master sets the physical sales tend to trail off, so they can’t justify a reprint. Obviously a hypothetical example, but hopefully you get the picture.
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Post by theillusiveman on Oct 18, 2020 12:47:59 GMT
I totally get what you mean, but to me it just feels like a small minutia insinuation, and that doesn't 100% sit well with me. Oh well. Yeah, I do see where you’re coming from. For me it’s just their way of justifying why they may suddenly say they’re close to being out of print of, say, Hearts of Darkness just a few months after it comes out. They’ve almost sold their initial print run and based on previous War Master sets the physical sales tend to trail off, so they can’t justify a reprint. Obviously a hypothetical example, but hopefully you get the picture. Well i wish they would make the Collectors Editions seem more special with say more artwork and stuff even a booklet like they use to do that way it would make CD purchases seem more special, i know highly unlikely now
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Post by The Brigadier on Oct 19, 2020 11:30:35 GMT
Ok.. 2 things..
CD.. Not "collectors edition cd" they are still an equally valid physical purchase.. GGRRR
Summer 2021, what month(s) is that in UK? I will need to up my purchases between now and then.
:-)
Depends if Jason was referring to Astronomical Summer (21st June 2021 to 22nd September 2021) or Meteorological Summer (1st June to 31st August). If I was in your shoes I'd play it safe and get my purchases done by the end of May.
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Post by number13 on Oct 19, 2020 11:33:15 GMT
Ok.. 2 things..
CD.. Not "collectors edition cd" they are still an equally valid physical purchase.. GGRRR
Summer 2021, what month(s) is that in UK? I will need to up my purchases between now and then.
:-)
Depends if Jason was referring to Astronomical Summer (21st June 2021 to 22nd September 2021) or Meteorological Summer (1st June to 31st August). If I was in your shoes I'd play it safe and get my purchases done by the end of May. Summer doesn't always happen in the U.K. so it would have been better if he'd said an actual month. And whose summer? As many of the most interested contributors on this are from Australia perhaps BF have localised the announcement and they mean next December 1st? Or 21st...?
Attempting to be slightly more helpful, really it could mean anytime between June and August.
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Post by The Brigadier on Oct 19, 2020 12:00:50 GMT
Depends if Jason was referring to Astronomical Summer (21st June 2021 to 22nd September 2021) or Meteorological Summer (1st June to 31st August). If I was in your shoes I'd play it safe and get my purchases done by the end of May. Summer doesn't always happen in the U.K. so it would have been better if he'd said an actual month. And whose summer? As many of the most interested contributors on this are from Australia perhaps BF have localised the announcement and they mean next December 1st? Or 21st...?
Attempting to be slightly more helpful, really it could mean anytime between June and August.
I'd almost forgotten your eye for the minutiae...😁
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Post by number13 on Oct 19, 2020 12:33:19 GMT
Summer doesn't always happen in the U.K. so it would have been better if he'd said an actual month. And whose summer? As many of the most interested contributors on this are from Australia perhaps BF have localised the announcement and they mean next December 1st? Or 21st...? Attempting to be slightly more helpful, really it could mean anytime between June and August.
I'd almost forgotten your eye for the minutiae...😁 Just trying to be helpful, as usual... Welcome back!
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Post by pawntake on Oct 20, 2020 12:49:34 GMT
Just to further confuse the issue!! In the UK the clocks go forward 1 hour at 1am on the last Sunday in March, and back 1 hour at 2am on the last Sunday in October. The period when the clocks are 1 hour ahead is called British Summer Time (BST). There's more daylight in the evenings and less in the mornings
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Post by mark687 on Jun 16, 2022 14:30:06 GMT
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Post by theillusiveman on Jun 16, 2022 14:36:53 GMT
Great with the price per order and shipping costs being pretty costly at the moment already Getting CD Boxsets will pound my wallets Anus for sure
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Post by shallacatop on Jun 16, 2022 15:21:41 GMT
They really could do with addressing the issues that were the reason this thread was created in the first place before bumping up prices, otherwise this issue is just going to go on and on.
Ultimately I’m paying £25 for the Ninth Doctor Adventures and that’s what’s going into Big Finish’s bank account. For a US fan it’s £20 and an Australian fan is £14. That’s nothing against fans overseas, this lies solely with Big Finish.
They need to remove the per order charge and have a pricing structure in line with the base country. You know, like every other company. I appreciate prices are rising across the board, they are for every single one of us, but I struggle with the announcing an upcoming price increase when they’re not doing anything about what they’ve previously considered to be a substantial loss.
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Post by masterdoctor on Jun 16, 2022 16:14:25 GMT
Speculation, but could it be that following November 1st, we will having boxsets priced in line with Call Me Master and The Fugitive Doctor at 18.99$?
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Post by tuigirl on Jun 16, 2022 17:13:37 GMT
They really could do with addressing the issues that were the reason this thread was created in the first place before bumping up prices, otherwise this issue is just going to go on and on. Ultimately I’m paying £25 for the Ninth Doctor Adventures and that’s what’s going into Big Finish’s bank account. For a US fan it’s £20 and an Australian fan is £14. That’s nothing against fans overseas, this lies solely with Big Finish. They need to remove the per order charge and have a pricing structure in line with the base country. You know, like every other company. I appreciate prices are rising across the board, they are for every single one of us, but I struggle with the announcing an upcoming price increase when they’re not doing anything about what they’ve previously considered to be a substantial loss. I am not really sure how their pricing works. When I go onto the website, I get exactly the same price as you (25 pound) shown in Euros (29.99) plus my VAT charge shown, and that is what I am charged.
I checked, this is the current exchange rate of Euro vs pound.
Of course I have no idea how it is for US or Oz, I can only show you below as it looks for me right now.
So is the issue fixed at least for us who are ordering downloads from overseas?
I am not going to order any physical release, the costs of shipping are just forbidding.
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Post by shallacatop on Jun 16, 2022 17:42:56 GMT
They really could do with addressing the issues that were the reason this thread was created in the first place before bumping up prices, otherwise this issue is just going to go on and on. Ultimately I’m paying £25 for the Ninth Doctor Adventures and that’s what’s going into Big Finish’s bank account. For a US fan it’s £20 and an Australian fan is £14. That’s nothing against fans overseas, this lies solely with Big Finish. They need to remove the per order charge and have a pricing structure in line with the base country. You know, like every other company. I appreciate prices are rising across the board, they are for every single one of us, but I struggle with the announcing an upcoming price increase when they’re not doing anything about what they’ve previously considered to be a substantial loss. I am not really sure how their pricing works. When I go onto the website, I get exactly the same price as you (25 pound) shown in Euros (29.99) plus my VAT charge shown, and that is what I am charged.
I checked, this is the current exchange rate of Euro vs pound.
Of course I have no idea how it is for US or Oz, I can only show you below as it looks for me right now.
So is the issue fixed at least for us who are ordering downloads from overseas?
I am not going to order any physical release, the costs of shipping are just forbidding.
Sorry, slight error on my part there. When I said 9DA I meant Into the Stars just because that’s the next set on my pre-order list, which is why I quoted £25. Looking at Old Friends, as in your example, the download is £29.99. That means in Australia it’s $29.99 and same in US in their respective currencies and convert into far less than the UK price. And ultimately that converted price is what’s going into Big Finish’s bank account. They never fixed the issue, it’s just a discrepancy between our two examples.
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Post by tuigirl on Jun 16, 2022 17:56:28 GMT
I am not really sure how their pricing works. When I go onto the website, I get exactly the same price as you (25 pound) shown in Euros (29.99) plus my VAT charge shown, and that is what I am charged.
I checked, this is the current exchange rate of Euro vs pound.
Of course I have no idea how it is for US or Oz, I can only show you below as it looks for me right now.
So is the issue fixed at least for us who are ordering downloads from overseas?
I am not going to order any physical release, the costs of shipping are just forbidding.
Sorry, slight error on my part there. When I said 9DA I meant Into the Stars just because that’s the next set on my pre-order list, which is why I quoted £25. Looking at Old Friends, as in your example, the download is £29.99. That means in Australia it’s $29.99 and same in US in their respective currencies and convert into far less than the UK price. And ultimately that converted price is what’s going into Big Finish’s bank account. They never fixed the issue, it’s just a discrepancy between our two examples. Ah, now I understand, they basically always charge 29.99, no matter which country. Well, I do get my VAT charge on top of that, but that is independent from BF.
I did not pay this issue any more mind in the past year, since I thought they had somehow fixed it. But apparently, to my total lack of surprise, that is not the case.
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Post by coreywt on Jun 16, 2022 19:52:27 GMT
CD buying is messed up for this USA CD buyer. First I wait and pre-order a bunch at once to minimize the per-order charge, waiting until the oldest release I don't have yet is about to exit the pre-order pricing period. Then I spend a long time trying bundles vs. individual titles, because usually buying the individual titles is cheaper than the bundles! But not every time. In my last order (41 titles); everything was cheaper to buy individually except for the Torchwood monthly bundle of 12.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jun 16, 2022 22:50:30 GMT
I wonder if the BF bean-counters have statistics on the amount of orders/customers per country.. If they have deeper stats on digital only vs physical cd... I have sent screen shots of what us Aussies pay to a couple UK mates of mine and they are shocked- when the p&h charges are almost 1/2 the price of said product. I hardly ever pre-order new releases unless it's something to me that's a "non negotiable- must have right now).. atm even 15-20% off isn't much of a discount when you factor in the p&h/shipping charges. My home state has the highest electricty prices in the world and they are going up soon. The Reserve Bank here raised the rates for the 1st time in 11 years a couple weeks ago. Lettuce is now $11 each from like $2 , plus a couple Prime Ministers ago we had a 2nd "overseas tax" slugged on us just for the privilege of purchasing anything overseas. Fun times ahead- I am still constantly chipping away at my basic spreadsheet of my BF needs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2022 23:02:46 GMT
I am not really sure how their pricing works. When I go onto the website, I get exactly the same price as you (25 pound) shown in Euros (29.99) plus my VAT charge shown, and that is what I am charged.
I checked, this is the current exchange rate of Euro vs pound.
Of course I have no idea how it is for US or Oz, I can only show you below as it looks for me right now.
So is the issue fixed at least for us who are ordering downloads from overseas?
I am not going to order any physical release, the costs of shipping are just forbidding.
Sorry, slight error on my part there. When I said 9DA I meant Into the Stars just because that’s the next set on my pre-order list, which is why I quoted £25. Looking at Old Friends, as in your example, the download is £29.99. That means in Australia it’s $29.99 and same in US in their respective currencies and convert into far less than the UK price. And ultimately that converted price is what’s going into Big Finish’s bank account. They never fixed the issue, it’s just a discrepancy between our two examples. Yeah, that they said they were to fix that and then...just never did. Really crappy. No other company works on that "every currency is an equal value" model. You dont need to be an alum from the London School Of Economics to know that is not just stupid but spaffing money away. Just as well Italy doesnt have the Lire any more or a boxset download would be £0.0111037 for our friends in Rome, Venice, Florence et al!
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Post by mark687 on Jun 16, 2022 23:09:36 GMT
Slightly Clearer Twitter Answer on the situation
However still not decided on the amount of the increase
Regards
mark687
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jun 16, 2022 23:11:08 GMT
Slightly Clearer Twitter Answer on the situation Regards mark687 So I basically have 4.5 months to pre-order "everything".. doh !
:-)
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Post by shallacatop on Jun 17, 2022 6:36:34 GMT
Sorry, slight error on my part there. When I said 9DA I meant Into the Stars just because that’s the next set on my pre-order list, which is why I quoted £25. Looking at Old Friends, as in your example, the download is £29.99. That means in Australia it’s $29.99 and same in US in their respective currencies and convert into far less than the UK price. And ultimately that converted price is what’s going into Big Finish’s bank account. They never fixed the issue, it’s just a discrepancy between our two examples. Yeah, that they said they were to fix that and then...just never did. Really crappy. No other company works on that "every currency is an equal value" model. You dont need to be an alum from the London School Of Economics to know that is not just stupid but spaffing money away. Just as well Italy doesnt have the Lire any more or a boxset download would be £0.0111037 for our friends in Rome, Venice, Florence et al! Yep, spot on. I don’t see the benefit of a price increase until these issues are resolved, as the discrepancy will still remain. It could be held responsible for previous price increases and would certainly go a long way in maintaining current prices or perhaps even looking at a reduction in downloads.
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