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Post by tuigirl on Sept 8, 2019 19:57:06 GMT
The question we should be asking is what does Paul McGann want and who does he want to work with? Well, they seem to be quite accommodating to his wishes, with agreeing to go darker starting with Dark Eyes as he wanted and he also already has suggested cast members he got along well in other productions. He seems to be very much on board with what BF is doing with the 8th Doctor at the moment.
He also appears to be a nice guy who gets along with a lot of people (just having listened to the TV movie audio commentary again and his awkwardness and biting his tongue when Nick keeps asking and goating him with how it was to work with Eric Roberts... Eric Roberts was maybe not the easiest person to get along with...), so I am not too worried about that.
But he certainly appears to have had quite a bit more input in proceedings recently and he is very enthusiastic about the whole thing. So my guess would be the dark and emotional journey for the 8th Doctor continues. Which suits me fine.
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Post by fingersmash on Sept 9, 2019 0:14:27 GMT
It is not a secret that I really love Liv and Helen and I think they are a great team with the 8th Doctor. I would enjoy another series with them. However, I am also open to new things. And it is always great to see the other side. Just out of curiosity: Where do you think things should be heading? You say Liv and Helen won't be able to go anywhere from here- where would you have liked them to go? What is the thing you want most and what would really excite you about a new series? I think Eight should be sort of vacillating between dark and light. Give him the endgame story of the man the universe broke (as we see in Night of the Doctor) just as things always seem to improve. Liv and Helen I feel should have been written as foils to both each other and the Doctor and would have turned out a far more interesting dynamic as foils (Liv is a pessimist, Helen is an optimist. Liv is snarky and sarcastic, Helen is genuine and straightforward, etc) with a lot more mileage as characters. I’ve mentioned several times how samey they feel to me. And Nicola Walker and Hattie Morahan are fantastic. But I feel like they’re being wasted with the characters they’ve been given. Honestly, I’m at the point of just really wanting a companion with a ton of layers for Eight to peel away. Someone who is deceptively interesting, who seems really dull and passé as a character on the surface but get revealed over the course of his or her adventures to have a lot of depth to them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 2:03:57 GMT
It is not a secret that I really love Liv and Helen and I think they are a great team with the 8th Doctor. I would enjoy another series with them. However, I am also open to new things. And it is always great to see the other side. Just out of curiosity: Where do you think things should be heading? You say Liv and Helen won't be able to go anywhere from here- where would you have liked them to go? What is the thing you want most and what would really excite you about a new series? What would really excite me about a new series? Well am all for this tardis Team to continue i have no gripes about Liv and Helen in anyway and enjoy the trio of different personalities and their banter.It just works for me.I dont need an ARC as i would enjoy something more individual in story telling.Allowing the Universe to rebuild a threat worthy of this team. Let them take a holiday...that soon ,isn’t(Eye of Orion). Let them visit a spooky house.Let them visit a deserted shopping mall where plastic shopping bags are a real threat or a spaceship.But self contained and ARC -less. let them go shopping-with zombies anything goes.A girls night out on the town-that doesnt play out as planned.Helen takes Liv to a spa or beauty parlour. Excite- Liv finding Love.Helen getting to put her skills into use when the translator circuits don’t work.Liv in a combat zone where her skills and required.There is so much to explore really.Too many companions get sidelined by the brilliance of the Doctor that its hard to forget they have individual skills and lives. I feel it would be a pity to lose this team yet.But if they do decide its time for one of them to jump ship I will have Helen remain just for the fact that she hasn’t had a good run yet and have grown really fond of a thoroughly nice person ,thoroughly nice folks always get shafted by the great Cosmos.She hasn’t been bashed enough yet by it. Liv i would happily see still alive and the end of the set and opting for a peaceful linear timelined existence helping those who need HER. In The end I will Go where John Dorney and Matt Fitton take me.They have provided me with hours of fun and entertainment,drama and horror. I am on board for whatever they want to dish up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 2:04:34 GMT
Is It October yet?😉🤪
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 4:16:16 GMT
Beevers story in the Set is Planet Of Dust? {Spoiler} Perhaps a reference to Dust Breeding -7th Doctor tale and Ace and of course Geoffrey Beevers Master,Post Traken..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 6:15:56 GMT
Flights and plane rides.So I managed to get a listen to some more of the Ravenous Stories. This is a box set that like Doom Coalition weaves so many webs.
{Spoiler} The Wish Lord in FairyTale -is a Facilitator,thats what he calls himself and although he can Be Seen as a Big Bad is he really ?Although his wish granting causes the chaos of the Krampus its also his facilitating that allows the resolution of Helens ageing. Does he have a grander plan?Can it be classed as an evil?
The Legend Database-a database of wizards and a magic and morality and witches and a comprehensive list of Folklore of Gallifrey would be interested as to how it actually got these stories and from whom and in any guide to Gallifrey is the Doctor actually listed in it?
The Plasm-reminded very much of the Gangers is it an ancestor of that eventuality.
What did the 11 actually read when he browsed the LEGEND database did he read perhaps a little of the Doctors future?A database of TimeLord folklore wouldnt be complete would it without him?
Sweet Salvation-the 11 is left in a nest of psychic spiders and it is after this that Helen hears in her MIND the words The Ravenous and the trio see fragments of them in the glass.Is there a connection?
I very know that the Masters although prominent in the next set and are much welcomed but this is 11s time to shine and i hope he BESTS both McGann and the Masters/Missy otherwise he is just a clone of those TimeLord Foes.
As was hinted at in Vortex recently something-insignificant some box sets ago will play a significant role-there are so many ways things could go.There are so many threads you could pick at.
So what are your theories? Spoiler
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 12:09:13 GMT
I went to bed last night and drifted off with the headphones on Listening To Ravenous 3-My goodness the nightmare i had and it was one i knew i wanted to wake up from I was being eaten alive by some creatures horrible and clown like-now am more than happy to have nightmares lol but i woke with my heart beating loudly and a sense of panic too and it was one of those nightmares you dont try to remember or focus too much on
Thanks Mr Fitton and Mr Dorney that was a buzz lol
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Post by sherlock on Sept 18, 2019 11:46:18 GMT
DWM Preview mentions “a heart-stopping twist” in Day of the Master which Dorney claims is ‘probably the best cliffhanger I’m ever going to write’. He suggests listeners don’t listen to the next part immediately after as apparently ‘You’re going to want to leave it a bit’.
It also suggests not all the TARDIS crew will make it to the end...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 13:28:30 GMT
DWM Preview mentions “a heart-stopping twist” in Day of the Master which Dorney claims is ‘probably the best cliffhanger I’m ever going to write’. He suggests listeners don’t listen to the next part immediately after as apparently ‘You’re going to want to leave it a bit’. It also suggests not all the TARDIS crew will make it to the end... I am such a Ravenous Fan I really Thought DOOM COALITION would be hard to beat and previously thought well How Can they top Dark Eyes?But somehow this Tardis Team and the 11 and the Threat really have engaged my imagination totally wether its Bonnars mad and sadistic 11 to John Hefernans totally Klepto incarnation or he really should get a mention on the cover George Aspreys truly unnerving Ravenous vocal.From Bases to Abbeys to asteroids to Time Scaphes and the creepiest of all mortuary’s and incinerator,Glass prisons.This has been an all out Horror release with the creepiest set pieces that have evolved in my own imagination and by the wonderful set audio design. Now they want to add the Master in various incarnations and somehow I am even afraid for them?Liv am afraid for ever since her encounter with the “ME”in the Dying TARDIS.Some have said well its only a THREAT to Time Lords but we all know when the Main Meal has gone they are coming after US mere mortals. I am hoping for further artwork of the Ravenous 😂 I love Fan art takes on stuff. Anyways given all that Heart racing action already served up to us Mr Dorney wants us to LEAVE IT A BIT-oh damn its going to be hard for me but he is the writer and like the MASTER I am going to have to OBEY.
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Post by mbt66 on Sept 18, 2019 15:01:45 GMT
DWM Preview mentions “a heart-stopping twist” in Day of the Master which Dorney claims is ‘probably the best cliffhanger I’m ever going to write’. He suggests listeners don’t listen to the next part immediately after as apparently ‘You’re going to want to leave it a bit’. It also suggests not all the TARDIS crew will make it to the end... I love a good cliffhanger My current thought is that the Ravenous will eat the Robert’s Master with the cliffhanger being the Doctor believing that all the subsequent Masters will be erased from time...but of course the Robert’s Master is not the fore-bearer of the NuWho Masters.
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Post by lidar2 on Sept 18, 2019 15:20:28 GMT
Yeah I’m starting to think that they’re not going anywhere. I love them both, but I do think it’s time for Liv at least to go. From what little we’ve heard about what’s coming after Ravenous, it sounds like it’s jusf going to be more of the same but with a different conceit. I'd straight up skip the next series if they were still in the TARDIS at the end of this one. Liv and Helen should leave because it feels like they don't have anywhere to go at this point and BF just want to keep working with the actresses rather than keep them around for a story reason. Liv and Helen are not the only 2 characters to whom that applies (did I hear someone mention Leela?)
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 18, 2019 15:51:01 GMT
I'd straight up skip the next series if they were still in the TARDIS at the end of this one. Liv and Helen should leave because it feels like they don't have anywhere to go at this point and BF just want to keep working with the actresses rather than keep them around for a story reason. Liv and Helen are not the only 2 characters to whom that applies (did I hear someone mention Leela?) BF and actor preferences certainly, and rightly, play a part but I don't think Leela is in the same category as Liv or Helen. If anything the stories for Leela have gotten stronger as the range has progressed. Plus the 4th Doctor range isn't as heavily serialized as the 8th Doctor range, so there is more flexibility in Leela's character and what you can do with her.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 18, 2019 18:53:14 GMT
DWM Preview mentions “a heart-stopping twist” in Day of the Master which Dorney claims is ‘probably the best cliffhanger I’m ever going to write’. He suggests listeners don’t listen to the next part immediately after as apparently ‘You’re going to want to leave it a bit’. It also suggests not all the TARDIS crew will make it to the end...Well, Mr. Dorney has been teasing for a while now that we might lose at least one of the ladies (probably Liv).
I am already in the process of mentally preparing myself.
This will be a tough one.
But I am also pretty sure this will be amazing, non the less.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 18, 2019 18:57:28 GMT
Liv and Helen are not the only 2 characters to whom that applies (did I hear someone mention Leela?) BF and actor preferences certainly, and rightly, play a part but I don't think Leela is in the same category as Liv or Helen. If anything the stories for Leela have gotten stronger as the range has progressed. Plus the 4th Doctor range isn't as heavily serialized as the 8th Doctor range, so there is more flexibility in Leela's character and what you can do with her. Hmm... not sure I agree. Yes, the stories with Leela have gotten better. However, she seems to pop up EVERYWHERE and she still is, for all her character development, a bit of a one-trick-pony with a knife. She is fun, do not get me wrong, but she by now must be one of the companions who have appeared in the most spin-offs. This can be a bit tiring.
On the other hand, as much as I love Liv Chenka, I can imagine anyone would get tired of her would she appear in as many spin-offs and maybe we are lucky she never met Jago and Litefoot for example.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 18, 2019 19:50:46 GMT
Also, in the obscure news thread, it was mentioned that we might possibly lose the TARDIS for a while.
What an amazing opportunity to change the dynamic of the stories. Imagine the Doctor and team having to travel on bulk interstellar freighters and playing a bit of hitchhikers through the galaxy. This would make for some great original new stories which have hardly been explored to any extend yet.
Really excited about this!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 20:17:43 GMT
BF and actor preferences certainly, and rightly, play a part but I don't think Leela is in the same category as Liv or Helen. If anything the stories for Leela have gotten stronger as the range has progressed. Plus the 4th Doctor range isn't as heavily serialized as the 8th Doctor range, so there is more flexibility in Leela's character and what you can do with her. Hmm... not sure I agree. Yes, the stories with Leela have gotten better. However, she seems to pop up EVERYWHERE and she still is, for all her character development, a bit of a one-trick-pony with a knife. She is fun, do not get me wrong, but she by now must be one of the companions who have appeared in the most spin-offs. This can be a bit tiring.
On the other hand, as much as I love Liv Chenka, I can imagine anyone would get tired of her would she appear in as many spin-offs and maybe we are lucky she never met Jago and Litefoot for example. River Song is the ultimate one-trick-pony, well the way her boring meet every character from Dr Who stories are written. Boring!
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Sept 18, 2019 20:21:20 GMT
Hmm... not sure I agree. Yes, the stories with Leela have gotten better. However, she seems to pop up EVERYWHERE and she still is, for all her character development, a bit of a one-trick-pony with a knife. She is fun, do not get me wrong, but she by now must be one of the companions who have appeared in the most spin-offs. This can be a bit tiring.
On the other hand, as much as I love Liv Chenka, I can imagine anyone would get tired of her would she appear in as many spin-offs and maybe we are lucky she never met Jago and Litefoot for example. River Song is the ultimate one-trick-pony, well the way her boring meet every character from Dr Who stories are written. Boring! Hmm....not sure I agree.
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Post by tuigirl on Sept 18, 2019 20:21:37 GMT
Hmm... not sure I agree. Yes, the stories with Leela have gotten better. However, she seems to pop up EVERYWHERE and she still is, for all her character development, a bit of a one-trick-pony with a knife. She is fun, do not get me wrong, but she by now must be one of the companions who have appeared in the most spin-offs. This can be a bit tiring.
On the other hand, as much as I love Liv Chenka, I can imagine anyone would get tired of her would she appear in as many spin-offs and maybe we are lucky she never met Jago and Litefoot for example. River Song is the ultimate one-trick-pony, well the way her boring meet every character from Dr Who stories are written. Boring! I quite enjoyed her stories. But then I would say that...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 20:34:55 GMT
I'd straight up skip the next series if they were still in the TARDIS at the end of this one. Liv and Helen should leave because it feels like they don't have anywhere to go at this point and BF just want to keep working with the actresses rather than keep them around for a story reason. Liv and Helen are not the only 2 characters to whom that applies (did I hear someone mention Leela?) I think we had Leela overload just the way the sets were scheduled once they broke them up with Romana sets and Now ADRIC ETC she is most welcome back
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2019 20:37:01 GMT
River Song is the ultimate one-trick-pony, well the way her boring meet every character from Dr Who stories are written. Boring! I quite enjoyed her stories. But then I would say that... I would agree with you i love the River stories and she is a good actress so i have no complaints at all. We all have her preferences but Kingston is a joy to listen to IMO.
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