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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 5:42:43 GMT
If they reboot each Doctor Range: Five, Gabby and Joel (I refuse to believe that he’d just leave them in the past like that, least he could do is take them on a few trips and maybe drop them off somewhere more comfortable than the 16th Century) Six and Menzies
Seven and Mags Eight and a new Companion (Maybe we can finally find out who Todd and Rita are?) While I'm all for it, I'd really like to see how Six interacts with that solo male I mentioned. I think you could get a really different Doctor-Companion dynamic with two bullheaded men but ultimately best friends sharing a time and spacecraft. Or better yet, why not both? (Don't mind me, I'm just taking notes. )
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Post by fingersmash on Jun 17, 2019 11:55:47 GMT
While I'm all for it, I'd really like to see how Six interacts with that solo male I mentioned. I think you could get a really different Doctor-Companion dynamic with two bullheaded men but ultimately best friends sharing a time and spacecraft. Or better yet, why not both? (Don't mind me, I'm just taking notes. ) That's exactly the relationship I want. Find someone with sparkling chemistry with Colin (not a hard thing), make a compelling character for ol' Sixie to bounce off of, and you have an instant classic.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 17, 2019 11:59:34 GMT
It’s a shame that it’s probably quite unlikely that we’ll see her again as she wasn’t particularly well received (doesn’t help that she was overshadowed by Ace and then had to contend with Klein and Macqueen) and I think there was some issue with Andrew Cartmel wanting to write all of Raine's stories and wasn’t happy about Dominion, but I dunno how much of that is true. I think Raine has plenty of potential and I personally did enjoy what I’ve heard of her. I just wish she wasn’t just picked up and then abandoned and also had her timeline made dodgy as well in Dominion. Thats why i'd love at least 2 Raine trilogies.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Jun 17, 2019 14:00:52 GMT
I think they just need to let go of Ace now. I know Sophie Aldred has spoken about not wanting to do a departure story, but we all know that if they were to do one, that wouldn’t be the last we’d see of Ace at Big Finish by a long shot. After all Colin Baker is still around in great quantity.
It’s just getting a bit tiresome that they’re dragging the Ace arc out and regressing her after everything she went through in the Main Range, and that we went 4 years with the only Peri releases being two short trips, yet we can’t go a year without Ace in the Main Range.
Also I think that we don’t need quite as many trilogies. For example we’re getting a Five/Nyssa/Tegan trilogy on top of the Kamelion one this year that consists of five stories. I can’t help but feel as though we could have either some other Fifth Doctor/Companion team represented or even other Doctors used. And instead of doing a trilogy of TV set Six and Peri stories that they make clear are completely unrelated to each other, Set during to the tv run and could be set in any order, they could have used one of the slots to conclude the Older Peri arc, you know that thing they abandoned back in 2014?
So yeah, I’d like:
- Ace to get a departure and for BF to move onto something else for Seven, especially because the post-Ace run of stories is in a mess because of all their flashforwarding.
- Fewer trilogies. I’d rather have a variety of different teams than a three month block of the same TARDIS team but no arc that ties the stories together. I appreciate this probably happens because they can’t always get everyone in and it makes sense to get as many stories out of certain teams as they can, but they could always keep stories back for another year.
- If you start a story arc, resolve it!!!!
- More Raine, Benny, Chris and Roz with Seven. I don’t mind more of the occasional Ace/Hex releases.
- Oh yeah and please just stop making River Song meet everyone ever. I’d love if her series got a bit of plot and direction going forward.
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Post by lidar2 on Jun 17, 2019 14:47:02 GMT
I think they just need to let go of Ace now. Agree with a lot of what you say, but esp your 1st point above.
Ace (along with Leela and Nyssa) are seriously over-used. Even when 7 gets a new companion, it's still "Ace and ..." e.g. Ace & Hex, Ace & Raine, Ace & older Mel, Ace & Benny, we thought Mags was a solo companion but no, BF couldn't help themselves, they had to bring Ace into the mix in the most recent release. If this sounds anti-Ace it's not intended that way at all - but new companions bring out new aspect of a Doctor's character and let them develop. Keeping the same companion constantly holds that incarnation back and gets stale for the listener.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 16:14:35 GMT
I think they just need to let go of Ace now. Agree with a lot of what you say, but esp your 1st point above.
Ace (along with Leela and Nyssa) are seriously over-used. Even when 7 gets a new companion, it's still "Ace and ..." e.g. Ace & Hex, Ace & Raine, Ace & older Mel, Ace & Benny, we thought Mags was a solo companion but no, BF couldn't help themselves, they had to bring Ace into the mix in the most recent release. If this sounds anti-Ace it's not intended that way at all - but new companions bring out new aspect of a Doctor's character and let them develop. Keeping the same companion constantly holds that incarnation back and gets stale for the listener.
I do agree but i do also see things from Big Finishes point of view - whiskt yes it technically is just an acting job it is much more than that. People like Sarah Sutton and Sophie Aldred have been working woth big finishes for twenty years straight, its a long time to then suddenly turn around and say actually we dont want you this year. Its a much more personal connection, as well as the fact that the people who hire these actprs are also fans of theirs and so dont really want to let them go. its not even so much about their livelihood as i know Big Finish probs isn't a carreer you could live off but i suppose its just the idea of saying oh yeah we dont want you this year because we want to do storys with a caharcter who was in the show for two stories and a delted scene. Again this can cause stagnation in the stories which is a problem altho i do feel the big finish writers do overcome this quite well, maybes not for ace tho(tbf i dont see why they dont just give her a spin off tho, somthing like sja. I imagine it would do pretty well tbh) i do see it as a problem and only one that will get harder as years go on, i think personally the best way to solve it would be to get rid of trilogy's and intergrate other doctors into the main range like pre key 2 time as then evn if theres the same amount of nysda stories it wont be as prelevant as three back to back.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Jun 17, 2019 20:33:47 GMT
I don’t actually have an issue with the amount of Nyssa stories, it was more the fact that we are getting five stories in a row with the same TARDIS team and no kind of storyline attached. It’d have been nice if they’d thrown Matthew Waterhouse and Mark Strickson into the mix along with Janet and Sarah.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jun 17, 2019 21:25:01 GMT
Two (conflicting) thoughts on recasts: 1) The idea of adding Treloar's Three to the Monthly Range: wow oh wow do I ever hope not. I really appreciate that the recast Three adventures are off on their own....so I don't have to buy into them. I'm still less than pleased that there's going to be a recast Doctor in Legacy of Time. (Back on topic for this thread: ) 2) And now to completely contradict my previous point: while I completely understand and respect that BF seems to have no desire to recast John Hurt, I would be totally on board with a series of adventures featuring a younger War Doctor played by someone else. In some way this seems less egregious to me simply because we never had any opportunity to see a 30something-year-old John Hurt in the role. I'd also like for it to be something harder-edged, with the WD doing some distasteful things, but that's something I just don't see BF ever doing. I don't think there's a contradiction - There's definitely a difference between the two things you mentioned: Tim Treloar as the Third Doctor is Michael Gambon as Dumbledore, replacing Richard Harris. A young War Doctor is Jude Law as Dumbledore, a character that will eventually become Harris/Gambon. Or more accurately, Richard Hurndall or David Bradley. Both definitely the first Doctor, parsing Sixie, whether you like it or not. If Tim had been cast in TV then that would be it. Done and dusted whether anyone liked it or not. Absolutely delighted he's in Legacy, and waiting for his run in with River! A young WD! But who to play him? It still needs something if that voice about him don't you think?
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Post by constonks on Jun 17, 2019 23:00:41 GMT
I don't think there's a contradiction - There's definitely a difference between the two things you mentioned: Tim Treloar as the Third Doctor is Michael Gambon as Dumbledore, replacing Richard Harris. A young War Doctor is Jude Law as Dumbledore, a character that will eventually become Harris/Gambon. Or more accurately, Richard Hurndall or David Bradley. Both definitely the first Doctor, parsing Sixie, whether you like it or not. If Tim had been cast in TV then that would be it. Done and dusted whether anyone liked it or not. Absolutely delighted he's in Legacy, and waiting for his run in with River! A young WD! But who to play him? It still needs something if that voice about him don't you think? Someone on here suggested Sam Riley ( Control, Maleficent, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies) and I have to say I'd never heard of him before but I understand the comparison!
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Post by izp1 on Jun 17, 2019 23:19:52 GMT
He was *very* Hurt raspy in SS-GB.
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Post by xlozdob on Jun 17, 2019 23:20:42 GMT
Or more accurately, Richard Hurndall or David Bradley. Both definitely the first Doctor, parsing Sixie, whether you like it or not. If Tim had been cast in TV then that would be it. Done and dusted whether anyone liked it or not. Absolutely delighted he's in Legacy, and waiting for his run in with River! A young WD! But who to play him? It still needs something if that voice about him don't you think? Someone on here suggested Sam Riley ( Control, Maleficent, Pride and Prejudice and Zombies) and I have to say I'd never heard of him before but I understand the comparison! Yup, that was me! I just can't see anyone else doing it hahah. He was *very* Hurt raspy in SS-GB. And yeah, that's where I first saw him.
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Post by Superium on Jun 18, 2019 0:44:18 GMT
1. A 7/Mags/Raine story, or at the very least, a story with Seven that doesn't feature Ace or Mel in some capacity. As much as I love Ace, I'd like for there to be one year where she and/or Mel isn't in the Main Range. As for Raine, who doesn't want more Raine?
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 18, 2019 12:16:08 GMT
Dalek Empire: Time War
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Post by tuigirl on Jun 18, 2019 20:21:34 GMT
Another thing I have been waiting for- the story of Liv being badass on Kaldor for a year. I am afraid that we might lose her in the upcoming Ravenous (at least what the writers keep teasing) and she really should go out with a bang and have her several hours of glory. Liv is awesome.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jun 18, 2019 22:24:23 GMT
Yes! With 8 failing to save Davros from the jaws of the Nightmare Child!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2019 22:34:40 GMT
Yes! With 8 failing to save Davros from the jaws of the Nightmare Child! I kinda like some stuff still to remain mysterious. The Nightmare Child was covered a bit in the Twelve Angels Weeping anthology last year and honestly it was just flat...sometimes leaving things to the imagination works better than having to make things too literal. I don't know what The Could-have-been-King with his Army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres would be like on the page or on audio but I guarantee it would be watered down compared to how off the wall it is in the imagination!
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 19, 2019 11:40:52 GMT
Yes! With 8 failing to save Davros from the jaws of the Nightmare Child! I kinda like some stuff still to remain mysterious. The Nightmare Child was covered a bit in the Twelve Angels Weeping anthology last year and honestly it was just flat...sometimes leaving things to the imagination works better than having to make things too literal. I don't know what The Could-have-been-King with his Army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres would be like on the page or on audio but I guarantee it would be watered down compared to how off the wall it is in the imagination! I read somewhere that The Could Have Been King was Omega and his army were Timelords he brought back with the powers of the Anti Matter Universe he used to be trapped in. And with The Nightmare Child, i've always thought of it as one of The Old Ones
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jun 19, 2019 11:57:38 GMT
I kinda like some stuff still to remain mysterious. The Nightmare Child was covered a bit in the Twelve Angels Weeping anthology last year and honestly it was just flat...sometimes leaving things to the imagination works better than having to make things too literal. I don't know what The Could-have-been-King with his Army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres would be like on the page or on audio but I guarantee it would be watered down compared to how off the wall it is in the imagination! I read somewhere that The Could Have Been King was Omega and his army were Timelords he brought back with the powers of the Anti Matter Universe he used to be trapped in. And with The Nightmare Child, i've always thought of it as one of The Old Ones Well if that's accurate it'll be a recast Omega we get.
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Post by Digi on Jun 19, 2019 12:13:44 GMT
Another thing I have been waiting for- the story of Liv being badass on Kaldor for a year. I am afraid that we might lose her in the upcoming Ravenous (at least what the writers keep teasing) and she really should go out with a bang and have her several hours of glory. Liv is awesome. They have to do this at some point...right? It's weird that they would insert that gap there if there were no plans to explain what went on, because it certainly seemed like she was fleeing when they picked her up again. (Perhaps this will be followed-up/flashed-back to in one of the Ravenous 4 stories?)
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Post by Digi on Jun 19, 2019 12:14:39 GMT
I want this. But I want Dalek Empire V first, to address the unresolved storylines of Dalek Empire III
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