lidar2
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Post by lidar2 on Sept 21, 2019 18:13:49 GMT
Does anyone else think the quality of the plastic/cardboard cd cases from bf has gone down recently?
Benny vol 5 was so tightly fitted into the cardboard i could only get it out by opening the flap at the other end and pushing it out.
1sr dr ccs vol 3 came today and as always i went to reverse the cover, but I couldn't prise the cd case cover apart and i kept trying until a craack started to appear and i gave up.
I have never had this kind of problem before with a bf cd.
We keep hearing in the podcast about how the cost of cd production has gone up. Maybe they have gone to a cheaper supplier and sacrificed quality?
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Post by bax81 on Sept 21, 2019 18:55:22 GMT
I received the Companion Chronicles set and had exactly the same problem when trying to reverse the cover. First time it’s happened to me as well.
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Sept 21, 2019 19:36:15 GMT
It happened to me months ago but I can't remember what it was -definitely a double cd case for Doctor Who (Third Doctor adventures maybe?)
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Post by Whovitt on Sept 22, 2019 2:47:46 GMT
The only problem I've had in recent months was one of the discs from The Eighth of March refusing to come free without snapping the disc. The replacement BF shipped me seems happy enough to come out of the case though, so I'm not sure why the first one wouldn't.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 5:40:24 GMT
Could be that the CD company has started to use cheaper cases and has nothing to do with BF.
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Post by BHTvsTFC on Sept 22, 2019 7:51:07 GMT
Count me in with the CC case.
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Post by cwm on Sept 22, 2019 9:51:55 GMT
I have noticed that all the double-disc cases I have received from BF this month are those ones with "2 CD" on the inside hinge, which seems a little odd.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Sept 22, 2019 17:53:55 GMT
The only ones I've had issue with are those items which weren't available for download. The vast majority of the Bernice Summerfield cases had broken spindles in them when I opened the shipment. Same with the early CC disks. I think some of the Gallifrey cases had the same issue. Pretty sure those were instances of either bad batches, or damage caused when the cd's were cased prior to being wrapped.
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Post by number13 on Sept 26, 2019 12:19:55 GMT
Yes, I noticed and on the same two titles as mentioned above.
'The Eighth of March' and 'First Doctor CCs Vol 3' have similar cases I think (the single-CD holding tray inside the 'covers' is a distinctive design and the internal plastic is generally 'milky' rather than crystal-clear) and both of mine have a crack in the outer covers. One of these was my fault but only in that I was trying to reverse the CCs cover, something we're expected to perhaps do and which I've done often enough before without problems.
I'm not sure if the CDs are getting thinner too but some of these recent cases certainly don't seem as good as the older ones imo.
EDIT: After Stevo's comment below I should perhaps clarify that by 'older ones' I meant 'older than some of the most recent ones', not 'the ones with "Made in Sumer" stamped on them in cuniform'...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2019 12:27:09 GMT
... but these recent cases certainly don't seem as good as the older ones imo. Isn't that what us oldies say about everything?!
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Post by Ela on Sept 26, 2019 12:48:08 GMT
The only ones I've had issue with are those items which weren't available for download. The vast majority of the Bernice Summerfield cases had broken spindles in them when I opened the shipment. Same with the early CC disks. I think some of the Gallifrey cases had the same issue. Pretty sure those were instances of either bad batches, or damage caused when the cd's were cased prior to being wrapped. I had similar problems with several of the older CD only releases. No problems at all with recent releases I’ve ordered on CD.
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Post by number13 on Sept 26, 2019 13:00:15 GMT
... but these recent cases certainly don't seem as good as the older ones imo. Isn't that what us oldies say about everything?!
(Oh Rassilon I'm an 'oldie'... "I deny it! I deny this reality!" )
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lidar2
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Nov 29, 2019 9:01:58 GMT
Reviving this thread for another moan.
Prisoner vol 3 arrived and I really struggled to get the CD case out of the cardboard slip cover, the cardboard was just too tight-fitting. This never happened before but it is now the 3rd time it has happened in as many months - it happened with Benny 5, Blakes 7 5.2 and now Prisoner 3.
Please if anyone from BF is reading this, go back to the CD manufacturer you were using before.
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Post by Whovitt on Nov 29, 2019 9:08:28 GMT
I had the same issue with The Paternoster Gang: Volume 2. I nearly had to tear the slipcover to get the case out. I stupidly put it back in after I'd ripped the discs, so I'm not sure whether I'll ever see those CDs again with the slipcover intact.
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Post by themeddlingmonk on Nov 29, 2019 10:53:56 GMT
Same happened to me with Ravenous 4. I also thought I was gonna end up tearing the slipcover.
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Post by number13 on Nov 29, 2019 11:11:14 GMT
Reviving this thread for another moan. Prisoner vol 3 arrived and I really struggled to get the CD case out of the cardboard slip cover, the cardboard was just too tight-fitting. This never happened before but it is now the 3rd time it has happened in as many months - it happened with Benny 5, Blakes 7 5.2 and now Prisoner 3. Please if anyone from BF is reading this, go back to the CD manufacturer you were using before. Or put the CD cases on a calorie-controlled diet...
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Post by Digi on Nov 29, 2019 12:19:55 GMT
It's been a long time since I've bought CDs, but I was having similar issues even as far back as Dark Eyes 2 - the cardboard slipcase was so snug around the CD cases that I literally had to shake it hard (think: a cold/refrigerated glass bottle of ketchup, hard) just to get the CDs to slide out far enough that I could pull them out.
I can't speak to the newer releases, but I can absolutely vouch for having similar issues in the past.
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lidar2
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Nov 29, 2019 12:36:08 GMT
Now that BF's approach to CDs seems to be that they are treating them as collector's edition premium product that you have to pay extra for then the onus is very much on BF to actually make it good quality physical product. Unfortunately the trend seems to be the other way.
When a box set comprises individual CDs then it obviously needs a cardboard cover to hold them together, but I've never really understood why jewel cases need cardboard covers in the first place. Especially when some jewel cases - like the ones mentioned above - have cardboard covers whereas others - like the 3rd Doctor Adventures, Companion Chronicles - do not merit a cardboard cover. I'd rather they didn't bother at all with cardboard covers rather than do these frustratingly tight ones that are so hard to get off.
Or else charge an extra pound for a better quality physical product. If someone is prepared to pay £3-£5 more than the download price for a lesser quality physical product, then surely they would pay £4-£6 more for a better quality physical product?
That's my grump for the day over. (It was either post this or else go home and kick the dog.)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 13:08:31 GMT
Now that BF's approach to CDs seems to be that they are treating them as collector's edition premium product that you have to pay extra for then the onus is very much on BF to actually make it good quality physical product. Unfortunately the trend seems to be the other way. When a box set comprises individual CDs then it obviously needs a cardboard cover to hold them together, but I've never really understood why jewel cases need cardboard covers in the first place. Especially when some jewel cases - like the ones mentioned above - have cardboard covers whereas others - like the 3rd Doctor Adventures, Companion Chronicles - do not merit a cardboard cover. I'd rather they didn't bother at all with cardboard covers rather than do these frustratingly tight ones that are so hard to get off. Or else charge an extra pound for a better quality physical product. If someone is prepared to pay £3-£5 more than the download price for a lesser quality physical product, then surely they would pay £4-£6 more for a better quality physical product? That's my grump for the day over. (It was either post this or else go home and kick the dog.) Do not kick your dog. Bad thing to do.
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Post by captainpugwash on Nov 29, 2019 15:38:04 GMT
Now that BF's approach to CDs seems to be that they are treating them as collector's edition premium product that you have to pay extra for then the onus is very much on BF to actually make it good quality physical product. Unfortunately the trend seems to be the other way. When a box set comprises individual CDs then it obviously needs a cardboard cover to hold them together, but I've never really understood why jewel cases need cardboard covers in the first place. Especially when some jewel cases - like the ones mentioned above - have cardboard covers whereas others - like the 3rd Doctor Adventures, Companion Chronicles - do not merit a cardboard cover. I'd rather they didn't bother at all with cardboard covers rather than do these frustratingly tight ones that are so hard to get off. Or else charge an extra pound for a better quality physical product. If someone is prepared to pay £3-£5 more than the download price for a lesser quality physical product, then surely they would pay £4-£6 more for a better quality physical product? That's my grump for the day over. (It was either post this or else go home and kick the dog.) Or just use the proper audiobook spindle box that every other audiobook company uses. The days of jewel cases and multi cd jewel cases has been over for years.
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