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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 20:33:32 GMT
I’m just waiting for the inevitable War Wildthyme series where she has to rescue War Panda from a Dalek encampment. In all seriousness, as much as I like her as a character I really hope she doesn’t become involved with the Time War. In my opinion, I really can’t see a light hearted character such as her becoming embroiled in Time Lord politics or the horrors that are the Time War. Would just be really jarring. They can call it "WarThyme". 'The only thing in this War that's Black and White is in the Bamboo pit'
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 20:35:38 GMT
War Panda teams up with Absalom Daak and goes around punching Daleks up the hooter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 20:55:17 GMT
I mean to be fair to the rather ridiculous idea of the War Meep, I could imagine a particularly crafty or cheeky writer stating that the event that created the Meep was merely a spatial anomaly caused by the Time War. Geez don’t give the writers ideas 🤪🤪
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Post by relativetime on Jan 24, 2020 23:00:33 GMT
Honestly, I really wish there were fewer releases set during the Time War. I still think that the more we explore it, the less mystery and intrigue there is surrounding the whole war and most of the best stories that take place around this time are the ones that only have the Time War in the background, like the first two War Master sets. The best stories featuring the Doctor are the ones that really put him through the wringer like The Neverwhen or Lies in Ruins. Too often the Time War becomes just another skirmish with the Daleks or just another high concept science fantasy romp and that really does a disservice to the whole idea of the Time War given how it affected the Ninth and Tenth Doctors.
I haven’t listened to everything, so maybe I’m really missing out. I am at least curious to give Susan’s War a shot, but I think these releases in general need to do a lot more to justify exploring this era of the Doctor Who universe.
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Post by tuigirl on Jan 24, 2020 23:16:52 GMT
Honestly, I really wish there were fewer releases set during the Time War. I still think that the more we explore it, the less mystery and intrigue there is surrounding the whole war and most of the best stories that take place around this time are the ones that only have the Time War in the background, like the first two War Master sets. The best stories featuring the Doctor are the ones that really put him through the wringer like The Neverwhen or Lies in Ruins. Too often the Time War becomes just another skirmish with the Daleks or just another high concept science fantasy romp and that really does a disservice to the whole idea of the Time War given how it affected the Ninth and Tenth Doctors. I haven’t listened to everything, so maybe I’m really missing out. I am at least curious to give Susan’s War a shot, but I think these releases in general need to do a lot more to justify exploring this era of the Doctor Who universe. This is why I hope for more character driven stories. I am completely with what you are saying. There is immense potential for tense personal drama with Susan‘s character. It would be a waste to just have Nick shout at her through that device of his.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 6:11:02 GMT
Honestly, I really wish there were fewer releases set during the Time War. I still think that the more we explore it, the less mystery and intrigue there is surrounding the whole war and most of the best stories that take place around this time are the ones that only have the Time War in the background, like the first two War Master sets. The best stories featuring the Doctor are the ones that really put him through the wringer like The Neverwhen or Lies in Ruins. Too often the Time War becomes just another skirmish with the Daleks or just another high concept science fantasy romp and that really does a disservice to the whole idea of the Time War given how it affected the Ninth and Tenth Doctors. I haven’t listened to everything, so maybe I’m really missing out. I am at least curious to give Susan’s War a shot, but I think these releases in general need to do a lot more to justify exploring this era of the Doctor Who universe. This is why I hope for more character driven stories. I am completely with what you are saying. There is immense potential for tense personal drama with Susan‘s character. It would be a waste to just have Nick shout at her through that device of his. Given tha it was written and recorded in the early days of the Time War conception I think it will actually be more of the same to be honest but I have my loyalties and will give it a shot but yes I do hope they tie up the epic saga soon unlike with Ravenous am not desperately waiting for any of the next instalments I mean am like How long till Stranded???
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Post by tuigirl on Jan 25, 2020 9:46:51 GMT
This is why I hope for more character driven stories. I am completely with what you are saying. There is immense potential for tense personal drama with Susan‘s character. It would be a waste to just have Nick shout at her through that device of his. Given tha it was written and recorded in the early days of the Time War conception I think it will actually be more of the same to be honest but I have my loyalties and will give it a shot but yes I do hope they tie up the epic saga soon unlike with Ravenous am not desperately waiting for any of the next instalments I mean am like How long till Stranded??? Good point, but as far as I can see, only one recording date is in 2018, the other last summer and then again 2 weeks ago... since Lies in Ruins was in the Anniversary set last year, I actually keep my hopes up that it was written in the transition period.
I also hope you noticed my elegant change of wording to avoid further embarrassing typos.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 10:00:21 GMT
Given tha it was written and recorded in the early days of the Time War conception I think it will actually be more of the same to be honest but I have my loyalties and will give it a shot but yes I do hope they tie up the epic saga soon unlike with Ravenous am not desperately waiting for any of the next instalments I mean am like How long till Stranded??? Good point, but as far as I can see, only one recording date is in 2018, the other last summer and then again 2 weeks ago... since Lies in Ruins was in the Anniversary set last year, I actually keep my hopes up that it was written in the transition period.
I also hope you noticed my elegant change of wording to avoid further embarrassing typos. Let me analyse carefully 🤪
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Post by barnabaslives on Jan 25, 2020 13:52:55 GMT
I have no trouble with them doing all the Time War stuff. I'm having to accept that there probably isn't as much temporal carnage as I might have expected, but what do I know about temporal carnage? If I want to hear more explosions, they were probably heard weeks before they went off because it's temporal, you know, with some of the greatest devastation probably being whole populations quietly written out of history and so forth. The only thing I haven't been totally thrilled about so far is the Eight Doctor Time War releases, and that hasn't much to do with the Time War, that's more about consistently developing and maintaining Bliss as a character and even the order the stories are arranged in (Vol 2 seemed very anti-climactic to me that way) at the same time we're learning to accept a radical departure for The Eleven. I mean, listen to Mark Bonnar and try to think next time around, he's a librarian, lol. So far the Time War has brought us some stunning releases and cast with The War Doctor and The War Master and now the return of William Russell, I don't think I could mind much. I'm very very much looking forward to Dalek Empire: Time War releases because that's already what made the series classic IMHO is the amount of human interest, particularly for a Dalek series. Maybe I won't get to see the Time War at its worst, or see Big Finish try to tie it up, but there's so much potential for great stories I'm very glad to see them exploring it. Nobody throw me out a window for this please, lol, but I even think the idea of Iris in the Time War has potential for human interest, how a character with a personality like deals with something as bleak as the Time War. Would it bring out a fascinating new more serious side, or would Iris be her adorably irrepressible self while trying her best to be a thorn in the side of the Daleks? Either way I think that could be something I enjoy although I realize some people may take that as overkill and I probably don't expect Big Finish to go there anyway. They can call it "WarThyme". 'The only thing in this War that's Black and White is in the Bamboo pit'See there. You've sold me on it! I wasn't even going to drag poor Panda into it, but that's just what this whole Time War business needs is a punch right up the hooter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 14:07:09 GMT
I’ll never understand why the Doctor would have a human companion at this time of his life anyway. Especially bringing them into a conflict as large and temporally destructive as the Time War. Surely, it would make more sense to have a Time Lord as a companion? Say a soldier who is completely out of their depth and is torn between their loyalty to their people and to upholding the Doctor’s philosophy. Would make for a conflict of personalities at least.
With regards to Iris, you make some very good points there. Still not too keen on the idea but with a good writer you could something interesting there. I would insist on War Panda having an eyepatch over one eye though. Just to emphasise his new ‘dark’ personality. Let’s face it though, he’d still probably act the same.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jan 25, 2020 15:42:46 GMT
So now we have Susan entering BF's seemingly never ending Time War releases! What next? The War Kamelion?
We have discussed the War Absorbaloff in the past, and I still reckon there's scope for a War Rani, a War Monk, and a War War Chief Jar Jar Binks, because as Churchill always says, Jar Jar is better than War War....
WarK9 could work, though, with the little dog turned into a sort of rottweiler-tank or something.
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Post by tuigirl on Jan 25, 2020 16:14:43 GMT
Well, just as a note- I would totally be on board with Iris joining in the war. If they find the right over-the-top- bonkers script for it. After all, Gallifrey needs the skills of EVERY time lord, so they will find a use for Iris. Bring it on.
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Post by constonks on Jan 25, 2020 19:32:07 GMT
I’m just waiting for the inevitable War Wildthyme series where she has to rescue War Panda from a Dalek encampment. In all seriousness, as much as I like her as a character I really hope she doesn’t become involved with the Time War. In my opinion, I really can’t see a light hearted character such as her becoming embroiled in Time Lord politics or the horrors that are the Time War. Would just be really jarring. Although I haven't read any of the Wildthyme books, I know from the TARDIS Wiki that she was in fact involved in the Tim War.
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Post by frisby78 on Jan 26, 2020 0:53:14 GMT
They could tie up the Time War with a bit of retcon.The Time Lords bring back the 7th Doctor'Seems fairly simple'says he. 4 hours later the Dalek have been whipped from reality and Ace is moaning. The end.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 5:37:01 GMT
I’m just waiting for the inevitable War Wildthyme series where she has to rescue War Panda from a Dalek encampment. In all seriousness, as much as I like her as a character I really hope she doesn’t become involved with the Time War. In my opinion, I really can’t see a light hearted character such as her becoming embroiled in Time Lord politics or the horrors that are the Time War. Would just be really jarring. Although I haven't read any of the Wildthyme books, I know from the TARDIS Wiki that she was in fact involved in the Tim War.You know, at first, I thought that was a typo. I should've known better with Auntie Iris. It is indeed a war involving the powerful, the mysterious, the audacious...
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Post by mbt66 on Jan 26, 2020 11:16:15 GMT
I’ll never understand why the Doctor would have a human companion at this time of his life anyway. Especially bringing them into a conflict as large and temporally destructive as the Time War. Surely, it would make more sense to have a Time Lord as a companion? Say a soldier who is completely out of their depth and is torn between their loyalty to their people and to upholding the Doctor’s philosophy. Would make for a conflict of personalities at least. I agree. The War Doctor series worked well without an ongoing companion. And the best Eighth Doctor Time War stories have been without Bliss, so in retrospect I think his series would have been better with temporary companions. However the Doctor seems to want to try and ignore the war and go on as he always has done. So having himself a young female human companion makes perfect sense.
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Post by mbt66 on Jan 26, 2020 11:33:10 GMT
We are currently getting a Time War set every other month (Dec, Feb, Apr), so with the final Eighth Doctor: Time War not due out until much later in the year there is a chance we could get some more Time War set appearing, otherwise why release Susan’s War so soon!?
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Post by tuigirl on Jan 26, 2020 12:34:04 GMT
We are currently getting a Time War set every other month (Dec, Feb, Apr), so with the final Eighth Doctor: Time War not due out until much later in the year there is a chance we could get some more Time War set appearing, otherwise why release Susan’s War so soon!? Probably to get in another audio with the BF poster boy in at his usual (at least for the past couple of years) April slot.
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Post by mbt66 on Jan 26, 2020 12:43:29 GMT
We are currently getting a Time War set every other month (Dec, Feb, Apr), so with the final Eighth Doctor: Time War not due out until much later in the year there is a chance we could get some more Time War set appearing, otherwise why release Susan’s War so soon!? Probably to get in another audio with the BF poster boy in at his usual (at least for the past couple of years) April slot.
Good point, well made!
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Post by frisby78 on Jan 26, 2020 21:01:36 GMT
We are currently getting a Time War set every other month (Dec, Feb, Apr), so with the final Eighth Doctor: Time War not due out until much later in the year there is a chance we could get some more Time War set appearing, otherwise why release Susan’s War so soon!? However in the extras of 8Time War Nick said there is no reason this could not go beyond 4 sets.
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